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hurrygirl Aug 12th, 2019 01:52 PM

First trip to India advice
 
My husband and I are active 62 yr. olds and have traveled extensively on our own planning ourselves. We are considering a trip to India this November and feel we should have a guide and driver. We have not done our homework this time due to unforeseen circumstances so are looking for any help out there.
We love adventure and off the beaten path experiences but also want to see the highlights. We are thinking about staying 3 weeks this trip.
Typically we don’t love cities and prefer countryside. We love markets, meeting the local people and experiencing their culture. Touring some temples interests us but too many. We think this trip we should stay at more high end hotels to recover from the expected onslaught to our senses each day. Perhaps we are being overly cautious in doing this but we thought perhaps it is best for our first trip there.
We definitely want to visit Varanasi for a couple of days at least as we think it sounds really interesting.
Any advice?

Thanks in advance.

Kathie Aug 12th, 2019 03:03 PM

Find one of the (many) excellent Indian Travel agents and let them arrange a driver (and guide where you want one). Go to the top of this page and choose "view by country" and select India from the drop down menu. You will then see all recent threads about India. Some of the agencies that get recommended here are Legends and Palaces, Castle and Kings, Panorama. There are others as well. If you have never used an agency before, you will want o tell them exactly what you are interested in - what kinds of places and experiences - what kinds of hotels, etc. You can change any of the arrangements once you get their proposal, but it is good to start out by giving them as much info as your can about your wishes. Have a wonderful trip!

jacketwatch Aug 12th, 2019 03:48 PM

Good advice from Kathie.
I have personally used Mr. VP Singh from Legends and Palaces and vouch for him without hesitation. We procured a car and driver from him during our last trip and will use him again for our upcoming trip though just for rides to and from the airport most likely.
I suggest being careful about sanitation there so see a travel clinic before you go for at the least getting appropriate meds for "Delhi belly" if you get it.
November is good though I would suggest later in the month as the weather there is cooling off.
Have fun!

Kathie Aug 12th, 2019 06:51 PM

jacketwatch's post reminds me - do make sure you have all appropriate immunizations for your destinations in India. www.cdc.gov/travel

hurrygirl Sep 5th, 2019 07:38 AM

Thank you for the advice

sartoric Sep 7th, 2019 08:55 PM

Advice above is good, consult a travel agent specifying your interests. I’ve used Indian Panorama and India by Car and Driver with great success. I’ve also met Mr VP Singh of Legends and Palaces. Last year he kindly treated us to a night in his home city of Patiala. We had a brilliant time with him. You can read about it in my report from November 2018.

For a first time visit I’d suggest Delhi, Varanasi, Agra, then focus on Rajasthan. So many choices in Rajasthan, the hugely interesting historical city of Jaipur, maybe time in the painted havelli of the Shekwati region, Jodhpur with an amazing fort and great markets, Udaipur on it’s pretty lakes, while Bundi is another small town in Rajasthan worth visiting for its views, relics and ease of getting around. There’s countryside options too. We loved the Hacra desert experience near Jodhpur.

Deciding what you can accomplish in three weeks is a challenge.
Refine, research, refine, ask questions - that’s what I do :)

jacketwatch Sep 8th, 2019 05:03 AM

We used VP Singhs services before and I can vouch for him if you want a private guide.

CaliNurse Sep 8th, 2019 06:42 PM

Hi Hurrygirl. Very wise to use a travel planner for your trip to India. As others noted above, there are good travel companies people to advise you. Contact several of course, to compare.
For over ten years now, I've been helped in many ways by Tim at IndianPanorama, and the great support staff there. (I think this is the company Kathie meant when she listed "Panorama)". If you see Progol's recent South India trip report, you'll read her mention of the company, as well as in others' India trip reports.
That you "don't love cities and prefer countryside" is a big step in the right direction! for enjoying India!
Email : [email protected]

CaliforniaLady Sep 8th, 2019 08:34 PM

Here's another vote for Tim from Indian Panorama. He's actually from New Zealand, to it's quite easy to communicate with him. He does not get irritated if you ask lots of questions, and take forever to plan your trip. The only advice I would give you when working with him is to heed his advice about hotels, and don't cheap out, like I did. Hotels in India are not good value because of high land prices, so you would have to spend quite a bit to get a decent room. Cheap hotels in India are really gross, even worse than dives in the US. Food is a bargain, so it all works out.

I agree with sartoric about where to visit the first time. We visited Delhi, Agra, Jaipur, Udaipur, Mumbai (you can skip), and Varanasi. On that trip, we only used a guide in Agra. On my second trip, I used Indian Panorama, because I needed a driver to visit Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

hurrygirl Sep 9th, 2019 06:07 AM

Thank you for your advice.

hurrygirl Sep 9th, 2019 06:08 AM

Thank you. Will do.

hurrygirl Sep 9th, 2019 06:10 AM

Thank you. Sounds good.

hurrygirl Sep 9th, 2019 06:12 AM

Thank you Cali nurse. I will contact Tim. I believe you helped us plan our trip to SE Asia Jan., 2018 which turned out to be fantastic!

hurrygirl Sep 9th, 2019 06:14 AM

Thank you. We will contact Panorama. The areas you mention look fantastic!

MmePerdu Sep 9th, 2019 10:09 AM

I'm surprised that in a country as diverse and huge as India that everyone seems to recommend the same old itinerary, despite the fact that there may very well be places that would suit hurrygirl better if she really did a deep dive into the possibilities. It may be that the suggestions are as good as any if her interest is general but maybe not. I think once someone has a sense of their own travel style & preferences they should be able to sort through the chaff & usual suspects to come up with places of optimum interest.

I did have the very useful help of an Indian agent on my 1st trip but had to do a lot of directing to come up with the itinerary I wanted. The assumption was that we all do the same forced march from well-known place to place & stay in the same sorts of hotels. Neither was true for me & I ended up thrilled with the outcome. Hurrygirl, you may be thrilled with the usual, but maybe there are better options. I just didn't want to leave you with the impression that the proscribed destinations are necessarily the best.

I've been to India now 3 times for a total of about 5 months and of the places named above, Delhi, Agra, Jaipur, Udaipur, Varanasi, I've been to Delhi. On my first month-long trip I went to Delhi, Shimla & Rajasthan (Jodhpur, a wonderful desert palace called Rohet Garh & Jaiselmer). I'm not suggesting these would be right for you but neither might the others listed. I have the feeling that you're satisfied with the places you've been directed in part because you know the names. I am suggesting that you might very well come up with a more interesting list yourself (not that anywhere in India is uninteresting). Unless you're content with "the usual" & I have no criticism of anyone's own choices, I suggest you give it more thought & time making the decisions. I'll add for context that I was about your age when I began visiting India & traveled alone 2 of my 3 visits.

hurrygirl Sep 10th, 2019 05:49 AM

Thank you Mme Perdu. That is great advice which we will consider.

progol Sep 11th, 2019 07:28 AM

hurrygirl,

Congratulations on your decision to visit India! You’ve gotten a lot of good advice here and I just want to second (or third or fourth) the recommendation for Tim and his team at Indian Panorama. We just returned from our second trip to India and they did an amazing job.

India is an incredible place with so many options that it can be so difficult to pare it down for a limited time frame. Of course you know what your own interests are and what you’re looking for, but there is a reason why the “same old itinerary” is recommended and used frequently - it’s an amazing selection of places! You aren’t going to be able to see it all, so focus on those things that are of most interest to you.

On our first trip, we went to Delhi, Varanasi, Agra, and Rajasthan, staying in Jaipur, Jodhpur, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jaisalmer, with several fascinating stops along the way. We loved our trip - and as an introduction and seeing some of the world famous sights in real life was nothing short of mind blowing. We loved pretty much everywhere we went.

Varanasi was as intense as intense as any place I’ve ever visited, but also a wonderful experience. It’s not an easy place to visit, yet it captures so much of what we loved about our first trip. Of course, seeing the Taj Mahal is remarkable - and even seeing all the other visitors from all over the world was fun! In Rajasthan, you’ll likely see more forts than temples (although you’ll see the latter, too). My favorite fort was in Bundi, a smaller and less-visited city, and the art work within the fort and palace was stunning. We stayed in a number of heritage hotels and havelis, which we loved. These are usually older buildings that were part of estates, palaces or wealthy homes.

You might want to look at my trip report from that trip:

https://www.fodors.com/community/asi...-india-966289/

Our more recent trip was to Tamil Nadu and Kerala. It’s a little less dramatic and probably a good place for those who are timid about the challenges of India. Tamil Nadu has thousands of temples, many of them are part of large complexes, with remarkable soaring towers and smaller temples and shrines within. Here is the heart of the culture in this region.

Kerala is lovely, much of it lush, and no surprise as it is filled with small,waterways, making it a relaxed place to visit. We really enjoyed our stay in Cochin, too.

My current trip report is, alas, only partly written, but you can see some of the (many!) photos from that trip!

https://www.fodors.com/community/asi...-back-1669259/

Hope this helps!





hurrygirl Sep 11th, 2019 09:32 AM

Hi Progol,
thank you for your detailed note. Your trips report is great.
We are now working with Tim with Panorama to plan a trip to Rajasthan area this Nov. He seems great and is working madly to get it to come together for us so last minute.

Thanks again

inquest Sep 11th, 2019 11:42 AM

Hurry (my dear) girl..through India is by no means a pleasant experience. Some of the hardcore veterans above have 'braved' the length & breath of the mighty land...enjoying the essence of what the mystical country offers. A land of extremes. Raging rivers , mighty mountains, holiest of the holy, filthiest of filthy contrasting in every aspect.....
The sensible fordorites above have a positive hint. Many have done it 'solo', to repeatedly tell lasting , lilting tales, singing praises of divine hospitality , soft on the heart,overly helpful simple folk
..while an eternally paranoid few fodorites,talk of 'women predatory ' ...' women obsessed ' bunch of marauding maniacs, prowling the dark side of India. True , but as true as any place else in this wonderful world.

The truth. India is beautiful, mystical, endearing, enigmatic, unsystematic, magical and most of all magnetic.

A sincere piece of advice.

Go with a planner , atleast, first time around, for folks of your age. ..
Round two...you'll be doing it on your own.
pl post experience. Will help folks like you here in the future
Have a great trip.

jacketwatch Sep 11th, 2019 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by inquest (Post 16984687)
Hurry (my dear) girl..through India is by no means a pleasant experience. Some of the hardcore veterans above have 'braved' the length & breath of the mighty land...enjoying the essence of what the mystical country offers. A land of extremes. Raging rivers , mighty mountains, holiest of the holy, filthiest of filthy contrasting in every aspect.....
The sensible fordorites above have a positive hint. Many have done it 'solo', to repeatedly tell lasting , lilting tales, singing praises of divine hospitality , soft on the heart,overly helpful simple folk
..while an eternally paranoid few fodorites,talk of 'women predatory ' ...' women obsessed ' bunch of marauding maniacs, prowling the dark side of India. True , but as true as any place else in this wonderful world.

The truth. India is beautiful, mystical, endearing, enigmatic, unsystematic, magical and most of all magnetic.

A sincere piece of advice.

Go with a planner , atleast, first time around, for folks of your age. ..
Round two...you'll be doing it on your own.
pl post experience. Will help folks like you here in the future
Have a great trip.

The last paragraph is sound advice. For a first timer don't do it on your own. After you see it for yourself then decide if and how you want to go again.
Walk first, run later.
You have said you want a guide and driver and I think that is a wise choice. You know best what you need.
All the best, Larry

hurrygirl Sep 12th, 2019 05:03 AM

Thank you Larry. Good advice. We usually plan our own travel but were uncomfortable doing so for this trip. We have just booked through Tim with Panorama. We are finalizing plans right now and will be there in s few weeks! We are very excited!

hurrygirl Sep 12th, 2019 05:06 AM

Thank you inquest ! Great advice! We felt that despite usually planning our own trips, this time we would hire a company to help us and a driver. We are almost all booked now with Panorama. They have been really helpful and expedient in planning a trip so soon.
We are really looking forward to the experience.

progol Sep 12th, 2019 05:29 AM

Oh, excellent news, hurrygirl! So glad it's working out for you. Tim and the team at Indian Panorama are amazing!

jacketwatch Sep 12th, 2019 05:34 AM


Originally Posted by hurrygirl (Post 16984974)
Thank you Larry. Good advice. We usually plan our own travel but were uncomfortable doing so for this trip. We have just booked through Tim with Panorama. We are finalizing plans right now and will be there in s few weeks! We are very excited!

My pleasure. As progol said India can be a challenge so good idea to follow your instincts. We’ve been there 7 times BTW as my wife is from there. 8th trip upcoming early next year.

All the best. Enjoy your trip.

hurrygirl Sep 13th, 2019 04:29 AM

Wow! You have been there a lot! I hope we enjoy so much that we want to keep going back to explore more.

Thanks again,
Tanya

jacketwatch Sep 13th, 2019 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by hurrygirl (Post 16985392)
Wow! You have been there a lot! I hope we enjoy so much that we want to keep going back to explore more.

Thanks again,
Tanya

Its been since 1978 the year we were married. India was our honeymoon :love:

katimiller Sep 18th, 2019 09:14 PM

Great advice! We felt that despite usually planning our own trips, this time we would hire a company to help us and a driver. We are almost all booked now with Panorama.

hurrygirl Jan 9th, 2020 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by CaliNurse (Post 16983262)
Hi Hurrygirl. Very wise to use a travel planner for your trip to India. As others noted above, there are good travel companies people to advise you. Contact several of course, to compare.
For over ten years now, I've been helped in many ways by Tim at IndianPanorama, and the great support staff there. (I think this is the company Kathie meant when she listed "Panorama)". If you see Progol's recent South India trip report, you'll read her mention of the company, as well as in others' India trip reports.
That you "don't love cities and prefer countryside" is a big step in the right direction! for enjoying India!
Email : [email protected]

Thanks so much for your suggestion of Tim@ Indian Panorama. He really listened and got exactly what we were looking fir in our trip to India. He did a great job of helping us to plan our trip had a fabulous experience.

hurrygirl Jan 9th, 2020 01:00 PM

Hi California Lady,

Thank you for the great advice. We used Tim at Indian Panorama to help us plan our trip and we were delighted with the results. He really listened to what our interests are and customized the trip to suit us. We visited Delhi ,Udaipur, Jodhpur , Jojawar, Agra , and Varanasi over 23 days before going to the Maldives for 5 days. We are still digesting the experience over a month later.

hurrygirl Jan 9th, 2020 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by CaliforniaLady (Post 16983290)
Here's another vote for Tim from Indian Panorama. He's actually from New Zealand, to it's quite easy to communicate with him. He does not get irritated if you ask lots of questions, and take forever to plan your trip. The only advice I would give you when working with him is to heed his advice about hotels, and don't cheap out, like I did. Hotels in India are not good value because of high land prices, so you would have to spend quite a bit to get a decent room. Cheap hotels in India are really gross, even worse than dives in the US. Food is a bargain, so it all works out.

I agree with sartoric about where to visit the first time. We visited Delhi, Agra, Jaipur, Udaipur, Mumbai (you can skip), and Varanasi. On that trip, we only used a guide in Agra. On my second trip, I used Indian Panorama, because I needed a driver to visit Kerala and Tamil Nadu.

Hi California Lady,

Thank you for the great advice. We used Tim at Indian Panorama to help us plan our trip and we were delighted with the results. He really listened to what our interests are and customized the trip to suit us. We visited Delhi ,Udaipur, Jodhpur , Jojawar, Agra , and Varanasi over 23 days before going to the Maldives for 5 days. We are still digesting the experience over a month later.

hurrygirl Jan 9th, 2020 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by progol (Post 16984498)
hurrygirl,

Congratulations on your decision to visit India! You’ve gotten a lot of good advice here and I just want to second (or third or fourth) the recommendation for Tim and his team at Indian Panorama. We just returned from our second trip to India and they did an amazing job.

India is an incredible place with so many options that it can be so difficult to pare it down for a limited time frame. Of course you know what your own interests are and what you’re looking for, but there is a reason why the “same old itinerary” is recommended and used frequently - it’s an amazing selection of places! You aren’t going to be able to see it all, so focus on those things that are of most interest to you.

On our first trip, we went to Delhi, Varanasi, Agra, and Rajasthan, staying in Jaipur, Jodhpur, Bundi, Udaipur, and Jaisalmer, with several fascinating stops along the way. We loved our trip - and as an introduction and seeing some of the world famous sights in real life was nothing short of mind blowing. We loved pretty much everywhere we went.

Varanasi was as intense as intense as any place I’ve ever visited, but also a wonderful experience. It’s not an easy place to visit, yet it captures so much of what we loved about our first trip. Of course, seeing the Taj Mahal is remarkable - and even seeing all the other visitors from all over the world was fun! In Rajasthan, you’ll likely see more forts than temples (although you’ll see the latter, too). My favorite fort was in Bundi, a smaller and less-visited city, and the art work within the fort and palace was stunning. We stayed in a number of heritage hotels and havelis, which we loved. These are usually older buildings that were part of estates, palaces or wealthy homes.

You might want to look at my trip report from that trip:

https://www.fodors.com/community/asi...-india-966289/

Our more recent trip was to Tamil Nadu and Kerala. It’s a little less dramatic and probably a good place for those who are timid about the challenges of India. Tamil Nadu has thousands of temples, many of them are part of large complexes, with remarkable soaring towers and smaller temples and shrines within. Here is the heart of the culture in this region.

Kerala is lovely, much of it lush, and no surprise as it is filled with small,waterways, making it a relaxed place to visit. We really enjoyed our stay in Cochin, too.

My current trip report is, alas, only partly written, but you can see some of the (many!) photos from that trip!

https://www.fodors.com/community/asi...-back-1669259/

Hope this helps!





Hi Progol,

We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later. We were in India 23 days and visited Delhi( briefly), Udaipur,Jojawar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Agra, and Varanasi. We loved it all. Yes we also found that Varanasi “ challenged us” but we are really glad we went there. We were especially glad that we ended our trip there as we had learned a lot of the Hindu beliefs by then so we were able to understand more.
we especially loved time in the rural areas biking , and walking from village to village and found we really saw how the people lived and were able to connect with them.

hurrygirl Jan 9th, 2020 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by jacketwatch (Post 16985417)

Its been since 1978 the year we were married. India was our honeymoon :love:

Hi Progol,

We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later. We were in India 23 days and visited Delhi( briefly), Udaipur,Jojawar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Agra, and Varanasi. We loved it all. Yes we also found that Varanasi “ challenged us” but we are really glad we went there. We were especially glad that we ended our trip there as we had learned a lot of the Hindu beliefs by then so we were able to understand more.
we especially loved time in the rural areas biking , and walking from village to village and found we really saw how the people lived and were able to connect with them.

CaliNurse Jan 13th, 2020 10:30 PM

Hurrygirl, Thank you for coming back here to let us know about your trip. Glad you were pleased with the tour planner recommended by several of us here, and even gladder that you had a great trip.
"We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later." I totally understand!! There's something about India. It "stays" with me long after leaving...which I guess is why i keep returning!!

jacketwatch Jan 14th, 2020 02:08 AM


Originally Posted by hurrygirl (Post 17043092)
Hi Progol,

We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later. We were in India 23 days and visited Delhi( briefly), Udaipur,Jojawar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Agra, and Varanasi. We loved it all. Yes we also found that Varanasi “ challenged us” but we are really glad we went there. We were especially glad that we ended our trip there as we had learned a lot of the Hindu beliefs by then so we were able to understand more.
we especially loved time in the rural areas biking , and walking from village to village and found we really saw how the people lived and were able to connect with them.

Very good!
So glad you liked it so much.
We leave for India and Dubai in 9 days.
All the best
Larry

progol Jan 14th, 2020 03:06 AM

<<We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later. We were in India 23 days and visited Delhi( briefly), Udaipur,Jojawar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Agra, and Varanasi. We loved it all. Yes we also found that Varanasi “ challenged us” but we are really glad we went there. We were especially glad that we ended our trip there as we had learned a lot of the Hindu beliefs by then so we were able to understand more.
we especially loved time in the rural areas biking , and walking from village to village and found we really saw how the people lived and were able to connect with them.>>

I'm thrilled to hear this,
hurrygirl! And thank you so much for coming back and letting us know! India is amazing, isn't it? And really stays with you, long after the trip is over. Yes, Varanasi has an intensity about it that isn't easy, but so worthwhile to visit and experience. And how wonderful that you were able to go biking in some rural areas - it's such a slower way to see things, and really gets you close to a place.


hurrygirl Jan 14th, 2020 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by progol (Post 17045836)
<<We had a fabulous trip to India and are still digesting it over a month later. We were in India 23 days and visited Delhi( briefly), Udaipur,Jojawar, Jodhpur, Jaipur, Agra, and Varanasi. We loved it all. Yes we also found that Varanasi “ challenged us” but we are really glad we went there. We were especially glad that we ended our trip there as we had learned a lot of the Hindu beliefs by then so we were able to understand more.
we especially loved time in the rural areas biking , and walking from village to village and found we really saw how the people lived and were able to connect with them.>>

I'm thrilled to hear this,
hurrygirl! And thank you so much for coming back and letting us know! India is amazing, isn't it? And really stays with you, long after the trip is over. Yes, Varanasi has an intensity about it that isn't easy, but so worthwhile to visit and experience. And how wonderful that you were able to go biking in some rural areas - it's such a slower way to see things, and really gets you close to a place.

Have a fabulous trip !

Tanya


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