Do you think Bob knows that Italy, Morocco, Tunesia and lots of Istanbul ( I actually don't know whether Istanbul is in Asia or Europe or both.) are not in Asia? Did he read the title of this thread?

Isreal on the other hand is in Asia and qualifies.

did something change and i did not read about it in the dreaded NYT....??

one might point out to the OP that this is the type of inane posting that drives all of us N U T S.... the very kind of thing that he tried to point out to khunwilko on his thread...

it proves nothing....asks for oft repeated info and that the OP is already aware of...

They're back, ladies and gentlemen, by popular demand!

BC

Einstein criticizes my seeking of information when in reality I was/am seeking ideas. There's never been an idea that existed in Needham, so his unfamiliarity with the concept is understandable. Plus, it's probably a good idea to never end a post a preposition with.

Up with which you will not put, Gpanda

Andy, I'm beginning to think about your request in two parts: first, an August (or so) relaxing get away and then a more adventuresome trip in November or later.

In August, Bali/Lombok would be excellent as you know. I'd also consider Georgetown/Langkawi as an option.

For November, Burma would be my number one choice, followed by India.

the "..." means there is more einstein SR....

I think you should go to Italy for the Chinese food.

Do you two, by any chance, own Einstein Brothers Bagels? (I'm not sure either of you two would answer this question honestly, since you're living out in "Dunkin' Donuts" country, though!)

BC

Kathie-I'm giving a lot of thought to that double trip concept. Your split makes sense.

BC-if I owned anything with Albert of Needham, we would kill each other in a week. We probably couldn't agree on a sign for the business. Every decision would be a fight.

Cranachin-in Italy, we eat only Italian food. Some things are sacred.

Great idea, Kathie.

And here is a minor contribution. Yes, Istanbul is in both Europe and Asia. I can answer that without fact checking because we have a child who has spent the past year there -- living in an apartment in Europe and commuting (across the Bosporus) to a job in Asia. (Regrettably, we won't be able to visit before she moves on in June.)

1) What is an "OP"?

2) Israel is in the middle east, not Asia.

OP = original poster

The whole issue of the border between Europe, Asia and the "Middle East" (a complete misnomer left over from the colonial era) is complex. It's easy in Istanbul, and along the Urals, but I was in Georgia last year, which is east of the Bosphorus and west of the Urals - is that Europe or Asia? (It felt like Europe.)

OP is Original Poster.

Isreal is both in the mid east and Asia.

It seems to me just plain wrong that Americans -- and I by this mean the Real Americans that patriots like Governor Palin and others talk about -- use terms like Mid East.

The terms Near East, Mid East, and Far East are inventions of the French and British. From those places, you travel east to get to Turkey or Iraq or China. Turkey is relatively Near, China is Far, and Iran somewhere in between, hence the monikers.

But how does that relate to us Americans? In one word, it doesn't. To get to China you go west, not east. Turkey is not near, no matter what you do. And Iraq!

If you're a Real American and have any decency, you'll stop using these French-inspired terms. Thank you.

don't give him choices, he can never even decide which shoe to tie first and he always wears lofers...

I'll refer you to Fodor's forum choices: Israel is listed under "Africa and the Middle East," not Asia. How about we say it's in Mess-O-Po-Tamia, as Jon Stewart calls it?

And I'm not gonna touch the Sarah Palin reference, not with a ten-foot pole . . .

I'm sitting here in the West LMAO at you from the East and Mid West. Time to get my Western butt North so I can face South....

Aloha!

I find it interesting that one one can travel in on direction east or west endlessly, but can travel north or south only until reaching a Pole [<i>sic</i>}. If the Earth were in fact spherical, this would not be the case.

Insincere apologies to the OP for the thread hijacking.