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Paulo59 Jun 1st, 2008 04:59 PM

Balcony Rooms at Oriental vs. Pen
 
Ok. I know there are lots of posts on the Oriental vs. Pen. I stayed at the Pen once and liked it enough but felt a bit isolated/hermetically sealed way up in my deluxe river view room. I prefer hotel rooms with balconies that offer a sense of the outside space. That said, I've researched both the Pen and Oriental balcony rooms. The Pen balcony rooms actually look like they may be a bit more isolating since they only have one window and the rooms seem darker. Can anyone comment on these that has stayed in one?

On the Oriental, does anyone know if their Deluxe River View rooms (that have balconies) are close to the riverfront and therefore have decent views? These rooms are scads more expensive than the Pen so I am trying to decide whether to try it out or stick with the Pen...Oriental room design also seems a bit frilly for my tastes.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated. BTW the Pen Balcony room included breakfast costs $403; Oriental with balcony w/o breakfast is $469.
Thanks.

Gpanda Jun 1st, 2008 05:23 PM

i have a prejudice towards the penn in all situations....reports are that the rooms can be a bit darker because of the balcony....

all penn balcony rooms are directly at the center of the hotel and thus have a great view over the city roofs...

not sure in which building the O's balcony rooms are located...

to me having breakfast included is not only convenient but economically appealing....

hi by the way...bob

rhkkmk Jun 1st, 2008 05:25 PM

the above is from me not from gpanda...and greetings from bali...

bob

Kathie Jun 1st, 2008 05:27 PM

Also note that the Shangri La has balcony rooms.

simpsonc510 Jun 1st, 2008 06:03 PM

I've stayed in a balcony room at the Pen. It was OK, but I would not go out of my way to stay in one again. Yes, the room is dark because there is only the balcony door for lighting. Non-balcony rooms seem to have more light.

Then, since the balcony rooms are slightly recessed and directly in the middle of the building, the two wings stretching out from either side have a minor blocking of the river view. Not a BIG problem, but still, the view is slightly obstructed. You can see farther up and down the river from the regular rooms.

I've stayed at the O, but not in a balcony room. I think you might be happier with one of these (IMO) even though I've never tried one of them. But I think the river view is in one direction only??? Gloria will know the answer to that one.

Carol

KimJapan Jun 1st, 2008 07:10 PM

At the Oriental, Deluxe River Wing rooms have balconies. They are set on the side of the buildiing, so they have partial river views. Deluxe Staterooms have full river views from their balconies.

Smeagol Jun 1st, 2008 09:19 PM

i have stayed at the Pen and had balcony room both times and intend to do so again in novemeber. View is great and i didnt find the rooms any darker than the oreintal rooms.

Paulo59 Jun 1st, 2008 09:30 PM

Thanks everyone. Hi Bob...Wondered if you would check in from Bali. Been reading your reports.

I am tempted to try the Oriental because I thought it might also be interesting/fun to be on that side of the river. Considered Shangri-la but heard they are under construction for a year so I am not eager to hear or see all that going on and wondered if even the K-wing was comparable to the Pen or Oriental in comfort.

Any more insights people have would be appreciated.

Paulo59 Jun 1st, 2008 09:34 PM

Smeagol, I meant to ask, are the balcony rooms as wide as the deluxe rooms? Sometimes I know hotels make balcony rooms long and narrow which would be less appealing to me.

Craig Jun 2nd, 2008 01:57 AM

We stayed in the Krupthep Wing at the Shangri La last February. Here is the view from our balcony:

http://tinyurl.com/5ycrov

The Shangri La is huge and the Krupthep Wing is a separate building with a separate entrance. If there is construction going on elsewhere it is not likely you will hear it.

We have stayed at both the Penn and the Oriental. The K Wing at the Shang definitely matches them in comfort with the added bonus of free cocktails/hors d'oeuvres in the evening and free breakfast in the AM.

tengohambre Jun 2nd, 2008 03:58 AM

Another vote for the Krungthep Wing at the Shang. Separate entrance, pool, dining area and staff. The balconies were large, with a great view up and down the river. The room was bright with large windows. The suite was huge (ask for an upgrade if there, the upgrade price may be very reasonable). The hotel is right next to a skytrain station. The lobby has an iconic view of the river traffic, with soaring windows and gleaming floors.
Have fun.

DonTopaz Jun 2nd, 2008 04:16 AM

The balcony room at the Pen is my room of choice in BKK.

I didn't find the room to be dark in any way, and I very much enjoy stepping out onto the balcony in the morning or the evening to catch a refreshing breeze off the river. Also, the balcont offers a nice view of any events that might be taking place in the garden.

Gpanda Jun 2nd, 2008 05:38 AM

the room lit up because of your chrome dome, and not everyone has a built-in lighting system...

simpsonc510 Jun 2nd, 2008 05:39 AM

Enjoying all the reviews. I knew this thread would get responses!

The Pen balcony room we had was most definitely narrower than the regular room. Not sure it was longer. The bathroom was off to one side, and nearer to the balcony door. The room (minus bath) is about the same width as the balcony, but the balcony is not small. The bed "faces" the balcony door, so you could sit in bed and look at the river. Sorry that I somehow managed to forget to note the price of the room in my journal. This was Christmas time, 2001. Exchange rate was about 44 baht to the dollar.

In the non-balcony room, the bathroom was nearer to the entrance to the room. We had two big floor to ceiling windows, letting in lots of light. The windows are angled, in a "V" shape, bending outward. (does that make sense?). My journal tells me that the price was $130 plus tax, including breakfast, and we were on the 33rd floor. TIMES/PRICES HAVE CHANGED!! Exchange rate was about 45 baht to the dollar. This was summer of 2001, my first trip to BKK.

The river view in BOTH directions is what is a great feature about staying at the Pen. I think (but have not stayed in one) that the O balcony rooms are either on the side looking UP river or on the side looking DOWN river, but not looking in both directions in one room, like at the Pen. Unless you have a balcony at the very end of the building, closest to the river.

Rizzuto, yes, stepping out onto the balcony for the evening air is very lovely. We were on the 21st floor, and we had a pair of geckos crawling around waaaay up there. Fun to watch them. They never came onto our balcony but were very close by.

Paulo, you won't go wrong staying at either the Pen or the Oriental.

Carol

Elainee Jun 2nd, 2008 01:33 PM

Havd not stayed at Pen, but have at Oriental. Liked K wing of Shang much better. Liked the pool at the Shang and the service and the food in the lounge were great.

Paulo59 Jun 15th, 2008 03:03 PM

Thanks everyone for all your insights. Love the detail simpsonc510.

travelhorizons Jun 16th, 2008 07:33 AM

I much prefer the Grand Deluxe rooms to the Balcony rooms at the Peninsula BKK. As other posters have written, the Balcony rooms, while having the same square footage, have a much narrower view of the River. The full length of our Grand Deluxe room had windows overlooking the river, while only the width of the Balcony room had windows (due to how the rooms are configured).

I also consider the Peninsula to be a better value than the Oriental right across the river. If you *do* stay at the Oriental, I much prefer the River Wing rooms to the Garden Wing.

When are your dates? I see better prices than you're quoting - at both properties - that include daily breakfast and one complimentary lunch at either the Pen or MO.

Smeagol Jun 18th, 2008 08:13 AM

To be honest i would give up my few inches of space so i could sit outside. I LOVE that about the balcony rooms. I esp love it at the pen, because i like to see the fantastic skyline of Bangkok and watch the little boats go backwards and forwards and smell the smells. The rooms are spacious enough (i mean how much space do you need when there is a separate room for your clothes and luggage!!!)
I think the Pen offers better value and a better view (IMHO) although i would say that the price of ALL hotels have really jumped this year in BKK

jenskar2 Dec 9th, 2008 05:50 PM

Went looking for balcony information and found this thread -- which rooms at the Shangri-La have the bathrooms that overlook the river? That is the ultimate decadence if you ask me ;)

MaryW Dec 9th, 2008 05:56 PM

The second toilet of the suite at the Pen overlooks the river - hows that for decadence. Main bathroom doesn't but does have a television at the end of the bath.


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