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jiffer Jan 24th, 2005 02:28 PM

Superfare.biz - good or bad????
 
I have some GREAT airfare prices through a website called Superfares.biz and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of them? Are they a good company or a fly by night company? The price is $200.00pp cheaper then anywhere else I have looked. I would like to purchase the tickets soon, within a day I dont want to miss the good price. HELP!!

JohnWM Jan 24th, 2005 08:42 PM

I am curious: what 'GREAT' airfares do you have from this website? It yielded me worse results than Expedia and Travelocity!

jiffer Jan 25th, 2005 06:30 AM

Well the best price I could find through after looking at Expedia, Orbitz, Sidestep and Travelocity and many more was $775.00pp from Baltimore to Maui on June 11-19, 2005 but through this website I got a price of $529.00. But I know the saying if something looks to good to be true.

katybird Jan 26th, 2005 10:52 AM

Anyone??? I checked a few fares and the pricing was too good to be true! Has anyone used this site? I'd be very interested to know their experience.

rkkwan Jan 26th, 2005 11:04 AM

ALERT! Must read!

American Airlines have some fares for $135.60 roundtrip for the dates you want, BWI-OGG. It seems to be actually bookable on aa.com.

I don't think these kind of fares will last long. Suggest you book it right now, if you're semi-certain about those dates!

rkkwan Jan 26th, 2005 11:12 AM

Oh well. Maybe it's just a fluke or glitch, as I can't get aa.com to book those flights. Having problem with the $550 fares as well...

Anyways, I have no experience with Superfares.biz, but agents like these will tell you after you give them all the information that the fare or the flight is no longer available, and you need to switch to a higher fare.

You may try and see. Maybe they do have those fares available, I don't know...

Betsy Jan 26th, 2005 07:23 PM

Hmmm...this is interesting. Just checked the site for my late April-early May trip from SF to Rome. The least expensive option is on Delta on a flight that connects through Cincinnati (Northern KY). Arrivals, departures, and layover times look fine. The price is $547.82 (INCLUDING TAXES), which is about $250 less than anything else I've found after searching extensively for weeks. Flights on other carriers such as BA, USAirways and others are offered as well in the same general price range. The site has no homepage, address or telephone number. Maybe there's contact info available after the flight is booked, but I am unable go any further without giving my CC number. Does anyone out there know anything about this site? I've never heard of it until I saw this post, so I'm reluctant to go ahead with the booking until I know more.

katybird Jan 27th, 2005 04:45 AM

Betsy,
I found a toll free number and fax number at the bottom of the page. Click "live help" in the green bar or "contact us" at the very bottom. I know! These prices are just too good to be true!

vedette Jan 27th, 2005 03:40 PM

I cannot find this site on the web. Can somebody post a hot link? Is that even possible on this forum? Any help appreciated.

rkkwan Jan 27th, 2005 03:42 PM

Not link not possible on this forum, except to other threads or posts on fodors.com

The URL of the site in question is:

superfares.biz


vedette Jan 27th, 2005 03:55 PM

Very strange. All I get is the Marsfind page saying cannot find. Oh, well.

Betsy Jan 27th, 2005 06:31 PM

Seems as if the site is not functioning at this time. I've tried and cannot access the site. Fodorites over on the Europe board are reporting the same thing. Oh well, it seemed too good to be true....

katybird Jan 28th, 2005 05:45 AM

I was researching a fare on this site a few days ago and Discovery Airlines came up out of Syracuse, NY. I called the airport as I had never heard of them and was told no such airline flew out of SYR. She had never heard of Discovery Airlines either!
Sure sounds like a scam to me.
Jiffer - How did you find this site? Google? etc???

clevelandbrown Jan 28th, 2005 11:48 AM

I think Discovery is/was one of the manifestations of a charter airline. A number of them seem to have some difficulty and disappear, only to show up again with new paint and a new name. I'm not really sure about Discovery having trouble, but its on the very fringe of my fading memory....

Betsy Jan 28th, 2005 12:09 PM

For what it's worth, the site seems to be up and running again.

grubs Feb 2nd, 2005 06:05 AM

Okay, call be skeptical, yet intrigued. I was finally able to get on superfares.biz, and plugged in a trip to Italy for the fall, which we've been tracking fares for. I requested BWI-Naples, with a return from Venice-BWI. It found an itinerary (using multiple airlines) that doesn't come up on the airlines' sites, with a ridiculously low price of $523pp after tax. I went to travelocity and built the same itinerary using the multiple destination function, and got the same flights quoted at over $1300pp. Went back to superfares.biz and this time the itinerary came out at $579pp. Still a silly price, although changed quite a bit over five minutes.
Does ANYBODY know anything about this Superfares company?
My research - The first time I was on the superfares site, the footer said that it was a division of Dawson and Sanderson Limited. Five minutes later, the footer said Sprise Limited. I did a search and found that D&S is a registered agent in the UK that offers discount travel through holidayco.co.uk, and appears legit, but that site doesn't mention any affiliation with superfares. Couldn't find anything about Sprise Limited.

Betsy Feb 2nd, 2005 06:33 PM

You're a pioneer, grubs, going where none of us has dared to tread. I have no idea if the site is legit or not. I have a feeling that if you try to book, those low, low fares will not be available, and they'll try to sell you a higher fare. Are you brave enough to find out? :-)

grubs Feb 3rd, 2005 07:08 AM

Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not going to be so bold as to try them. I've now found postings in other sections of this site, and all signs point to scam. (One person said that she tried to book, and then received an error message saying that her credit card had been rejected, and then an email asking her to wire payment to Brussels...)

So, until I get some comfort that people are having success with them, I'm out of the game!

Betsy Feb 3rd, 2005 09:54 AM

Me too, grubs!

FainaAgain Feb 3rd, 2005 10:14 AM

There is a post on "other" FROM ONE-TIME ONLY POSTER regarding this website being a scam.

kcrn Feb 4th, 2005 03:43 AM

I tried to book on Superfares.biz and put all my personal and CC info in, only to receive a "302" message that it was declined. I tried to call both 800 numbers from the website multiple times during the day. These are not working phone numbers. They wouldn't respond to my email, but I did get someone to finally answer in live support. This was an extremely odd instant messaging session. Very unprofessional. They said they would notify their billing department, but were vague about what would happen next. When I started asking questions about the company, they just "disappeared" from the conversation. I finally called their 917 phone number. A man speaking poor English answered simply with "hello". He finally said that yes it was a business number, but wouldn't answer any questions about the company. He wouldn't give me a name, but said he was customer support. He became angry, yelling at me and telling me to stop telling him all my problems and go take care of them somewhere else. I immediately called my cc company, reported the website, and closed my account. I know an investigator and he checked it out. This is indeed a fraudulent site. PLEASE don't use them!!! He found the owner's name and email address and suggested I let people know how to contact him. His name is Brad Stout, address is in Georgia. His email address is [email protected]. Hope this helps some people. I am in the process of reporting this site to the officials.

Betsy Feb 4th, 2005 06:57 PM

Thanks for your detective work, kcrn. If you get any further details, please report them here. Sure glad I didn't bite.

Betsy Feb 6th, 2005 08:01 AM

Topping for readers from the US thread.

whiteknuckles Feb 8th, 2005 04:16 PM

On their main page, this "superfare" company claims to be a subsidiary of Dawson and Sanderson LTD. On a webpage actually operated by Dawson and Sanderson,
http://www.holidayco.co.uk/about.asp
there is this warning:

"BEWARE OF BOGUS WEBSITES

Please be aware of bogus websites which exist. The only websites which are owned or have any connection with Dawson and Sanderson Ltd are as follows:

www.travelco.co.uk
www.holidayco.co.uk
www.flightco.co.uk
www.hotelco.co.uk
www.forexco.co.uk
www.insuranceco.co.uk
www.carhireco.co.uk
www.bagaholiday.com

If any other website claims to be part of Dawson and Sanderson or a Registered Trade or Service mark of Dawson and Sanderson Ltd, do not use this site as this may be fraudulent."

The company name that comes up on the payment page, "Sprise Limited" is probably a play on words as in "Surprise...we obtained your credit card and personal information and now we can use this to make lots of fraudulent purchases for ourselves."

lil_luce Feb 9th, 2005 01:56 AM

I can't tell you how glad I am that I went looking for information on SPrize before thinking of booking a fare with them! Like a few others here I was looking at airfares (to Australia) and was suspicious that they could charge almost $1000 less than anyone else (for 3 people). They also charged $10 for taxes etc, when it should be over $100.

Anyway, thanks to everyone out there that put information here about them! I ended up booking with Orbitz.

I noticed tonight also that they have changed the information at the bottom of the front page to the Dawson information, but they have not changed it on the bottom of all their other pages!

tommy53 Feb 10th, 2005 05:03 AM

I also tried to book with Superfares .biz when my cc. was declined they told me to wire the money to an account in thailand. thought it was a bit of a scam. should I complain to cc company

grubs Feb 10th, 2005 06:24 AM

tommy53 - Yes, contact your CC issuer immediately. There was a similar post in another thread from a user who had the mysterious "credit card declined" message, with a floow-up note to wire the money (to someplace in central Europe)...

fraudinvestigator Feb 10th, 2005 12:42 PM

This website is a FRAUD used to harvest crdit card info from consumers. If you use it your card will be compromised and used elsewhere. This website is operated by this person in Bulgaria:

DIKOV, Kalin
Personal Homepage: http://kalin.org
Mobile Number: +359.888.269234 (he does answer and I have spoke to him in the past)
Personal E-mail: [email protected] or [email protected]

He also operates the following sites:

http://www.aircentral.net
http://www.busysky.net
http://www.crazytickets.net
http://www.happyticket.net
http://www.ippw.org
http://www.bookingsaver.com
http://www.submityourprice.com
http://www.cheapclouds.com
http://www.superfares.biz


The domain registry info mentioned for the person in Georgia is another victim. This person uses the credit card info of his victims to register new domains to continue his crime. To date I have identified the following list of domains used by DIKOV.

abv.bg
apissoft.net
bettername.net
bgpnet.net
BGPNETWORKS.INFO
bkkmail.com
bulgaria.com
c4.com
cablebg.net
c-inc.com
cybergal.com
digsys.bg
egvrn.net
gruh-gruh.com
submitprice.net
ijs.com
insglobe.biz
interbgc.com
ippn.net
ippna.org
ippw.com
ippw.net
i--t.com
liglio.org
lonex.org
magnum-d.com
mail.bg
mailbgp.net
netinfo.to
netissat.bg
newstocks.net
propersupport.com
satline.net
SKYTELL.ORG
solo.bg
spnet.net
supremecenter.com
takea.com
takea.net
vvci.com

I'm sure there are more.

Another example of "If it's too good to be true..."

Stick with the websites you know and trust (Expedia, Orbitz, Travelocity)

maginger Mar 11th, 2005 03:45 PM

I flew on Discovery Airlines 5 years ago. It was a Charter airline that flew to Las Vegas. I don't know what state they're headquartered in, I haven't flown since that time 5 years ago. Amy

sillytess Mar 13th, 2005 09:55 AM

Please DO NOT order anything from superfares. I wish I had saw this site before placing an order last friday. Everything happened exactly as the other victims had said. This clever crook not only got my cc info but got me wire over $300. My cc company and bank have filed complaints and a case has been started. From what it seems there are other victims from this guy's 11 or so scam sites. Please be careful and go with what is same when it comes to your personal info and money. regards, tess

Whelk Mar 14th, 2005 02:33 PM

Hi, I just want to back up fraudinvestigator's post above dated 02/10/2005, 04:42 pm. He is quite correct in what he says. Looks like I've been caught out already on the Busysky.net website.
I parted with a very large sum of money on 3rd March 2005 and have not received any tickets, nor have I been able to get an answer from the person I was communicating with. My subsequent research for the past 4 days led me to about 7 sites namely the ones listed by fraudinvestigator. The sites had been dead for a few days then today most of them came alive again. It seems like "they" lay low for a little while then resurrect some again. I have informed the authorities in Bangkok (where my money was transferred by wire transfer) and reported it to the police here in UK. I can only hope now that an application from my end through my bank can retrieve most if not all of my money.

smuthiah Mar 21st, 2005 06:11 PM

Hi,

Thanks to everyone who posted, I saved myself from being ripped off. It seems the guy has started a new fraud site http://www.flyjumbo.net/ . The posted ticket fare was more than 200 $ below the price on Expedia. Now the site says "FLYJumbo.net and Submit Your Price are registered service marks of SPrice, Inc." It was saying "Sprise Ltd." few hours ago.

When I contacted them by e-mail, they sent this reply

"Hello,

The only possible way is to send us the money for the ticket to our
bank account using a wire transfer. Our company is going to cover all bank
fees on the wire transfer. You just mark that bank fee should be paid by
receiver or send the ticket amout minus the bank fee to us."

Thanks.



mightyspong Mar 23rd, 2005 05:52 AM

My friend in England just tried to use the flyjumbo.net site after finding fares of almost half the price of other websites. Here is the response he got...

During investigation of the card transaction you attempted to place at your order time, we cannot get an authorization by the bank for charging the specified amount. The only option I
have is to proceed with an alternate method of payment, i.e. complete a wire transfer to our bank account.

To process the payment, please use the following bank info:

Bank name: Citizens Bank
Account number: 1109561544
Beneficiary: KP Communications
SWIFT Code: CTZ1U533
ABA routing: 011500120
Bank Branch details:
Rhode Island
1 Citizens Drive
Riverside
RI 02915
United States

So now the guy has moved his banking operation to the US?

yd3232 Mar 31st, 2005 09:34 AM

you're right smuthia. His new website is Flyjumbo.net. I sort of fell for it. I got suspicious when I tried to use his "tell us your price" link and it asked me for my passport number. I went ahead and gave my info (name, address and email) but with a fake number. Thay's when I decided to look it up on this website (Thank you for the postings) . I hope this does not come back to bite me. Has anyone used this link?

Whelk Apr 6th, 2005 03:47 PM

Just to let you know that there is a newer site at www.bestflight.net. The same bank account as mightyspong's post quoted (dated 03/23/2005, 09:52 am) to pay into is being used there as well. These people don't seem to be giving up do they!!

vpeykov Mar 12th, 2006 12:29 AM

About the sites that you are post. Not all is used by Mr. Dikov.

ABV.BG is a free e-mail service located in Bulgaria. CABLEBG.NET is a bigest ISP in Bulgaria.

BGPNETWORKS.INFO is a my site and offering cheapest hotel rooms internationally and this service is a real. I'm affiliate with this company.

Cheers

P.S. For any questions contact me via e-mail: [email protected] (I was forget this domain also is a free e-mail located in Thailand:-)

vpeykov Mar 12th, 2006 12:39 AM

Anybody to tell me cheaper website with international flights??

Tere Mar 12th, 2006 12:53 AM

www.ebookers.com

vpeykov Mar 12th, 2006 01:07 AM

Thank you very much

fnarf999 Mar 12th, 2006 02:56 PM

For what it's worth, I have NEVER seen a website in the .biz domain that wasn't more trouble than it's worth. Not everything is an out and out scam, like this guy, but on the internet .biz means "spammer".

The page now has a link to "greatfares.biz", but when you click it it takes you to "ticketsaver.net". I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole even if I hadn't read of the scams here.


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