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Bill Sep 23rd, 2001 05:34 AM

Box-cutters under the seats??!!
 
News today says some grounded planes had box-cutters hidden under the seats. This tells me 1. there are airport employees who are murderous traitors and 2. the hijackers knew their seat assignments. <BR> <BR>As to #1. -- we KNOW airports are abysmal about security -- how about some tighter screening? <BR> <BR>As to #2. Of course they knew their assignments -- unlike European carriers, US carriers give out seat assignments ahead of time. Time to stop that practice now.

fyi Sep 24th, 2001 10:39 AM

Did it occur to you that they may have left them on the plane as they embarked, thinking a search may take place?? Lots of questions and yes yours is very good. Had not thought of it that way, duh for me.

JoeG Sep 26th, 2001 10:05 AM

Your suggestion of no seat selections has some validity. As much as I wouldn't like it, it may be one of the many things we have to consider. <BR> <BR>A slight correction. KLM does offer seat selection to business class on European flights. Others may as well. I don't know. <BR> <BR>

Kathleen Oct 5th, 2001 08:51 PM

I have been watching Dateline shows since the tradegies started. They did a thing where they sent someone to work and he was supposed to just drive that little cart and then they were short handed in security and so he was told to do that and he kept saying I don't know how to do this, I am not trained in doing this, what am I supposed to look for. <BR>He found out that the ID card they wear will take you anywhere and he went on the plane and took videos everywhere and no one there, he even went back and go another video camera. <BR>That is scary when you hear that. <BR> <BR>so, nothing is safe these days is what they are saying and showing. <BR> <BR>That the air attendants say that too much luggage is allowed onto the airlines and so anything can be brought on to it. <BR> <BR>they asked every single flight attendants if they think its save to work on planes and they all said no. <BR> <BR>What does that say?

takethebus Oct 9th, 2001 07:07 PM

Bring a parachute

Glenda Oct 11th, 2001 07:04 AM

Kathleen-The Dateline segment was filmed before the attacks. There were definite holes in the security system and the terrorists knew this and used it to their advantage. Mary Schiavo, the former head of the DOT warned about this years ago. She also warned the airlines about the Value Jet crash. She resigned shortly after that fiasco where everyone pointed fingers. IMO, we all need to SCREAM at the top of our lungs to our representatives, the White House, DOT, FAA and anyone else that we are not going to take this kind of lax security anymore and they need to quit pussy footing around and get the job done!

Marcus Oct 13th, 2001 04:28 AM

Today, the biggest obstacle is the White House, who oppose the new airport security bill because they're (he's) squeamish about nationalizing the security force. Write, call, email -- get this bill signed and things moving! American shouldn't be endangered because of a hammerlock by private interests. This is NOT business-as-usual!

Sharon Oct 13th, 2001 04:47 AM

There was an ad in local paper last week from the security company(name escapes me) that offers security at all the major airports around the country. No experience necessary. Starting pay was $5.50 per hour! Thank goodness the National Guard are in our airports.

Marcus Oct 13th, 2001 09:55 AM

What good do men in fatiques wandering around with guns do if those screening the luggage don't catch something dangerous before it gets on board and if those screening the people let someone dangerous through just because they have a "picture ID"?


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