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Sheygetz Sep 23rd, 2008 06:23 AM

Where to read the NYT on a sunday
A question for Manhattonites:
For many years now I have heard about what a tome the NYT is on sundays. A newspaper lover's smorgasboard! Being a media person I knew, if I was ever going to make it to NY I would spend half a sunday pouring over that paper.

Now the time has come, more precisely it will on Oct 5. My question to you is: Where would you spend a couple of hours with the NYT given a) the weather was good enough to be outside or b) it was not. I'm really curious to hear about your favourites. Thank you!


Fra_Diavolo Sep 23rd, 2008 07:00 AM

Bryant park (behind the NYPL) is great for people watching and has tables and chairs and kiosks for buying coffee or snacks.

Aduchamp1 Sep 23rd, 2008 07:03 AM

Most people read the Sunday NYT in the privacy of their pajamas or underwear. It is usually not an outdoor sport nor an activity with brunch in a restaurant.

What is more imortant to NY'ers is what are going to eat with the Sunday Times.

That said, if I were read the paper outdoors I would head for the periphery, such as a bench or pocket park by one of the rivers. There are juggers but it is quieter. There are also pocket parks here and there which are quiet. I would avoid the usual outdoor spots such as Washington Square or Central Park simply because they are usually filled with people on the weekends, even there are quiet spots in Central Park.

Sheygetz Sep 23rd, 2008 09:50 AM

>> the privacy of their pajamas or underwear.

Granted. But having heard horror stories about the size of NY hotel rooms, maybe we'd rather be out of it.

>>What is more imortant to NY'ers is what are going to eat with the Sunday Times.
So? Food's always good, so what are you having?

>>there are quiet spots in Central Park.
Would you like to point one out?

Thanks Hendrik

nytraveler Sep 23rd, 2008 09:51 AM

If the weather is decent anyplace in Central Park - there are thousands of benches.

If it isn't at any coffee shop or diner (you'll see may of the people there reading the Times while brunching).

We do it in bed - since our Times is delivered. (In NYC you can get anything delivered - never mind just the newspaper.)

And if you're truly desperate you can get most of it Saturday night (except the news naturally) since most is printed in advance - and distributed for those who 1) either can;t wait or 2) want to real estate section to be first on line for apartments.

travelbuff Sep 23rd, 2008 01:36 PM

Starbucks, seems to be the place we go to read the paper on Sunday, and you will see lots of people doing that. There are Starbucks on most street corners these days.

trippinkpj Sep 23rd, 2008 02:25 PM

I spent my Sunday am in NYC, last November at Ess-a-Bagel at their 3rd ave. mid-town East location reading the NYT. The bagels and coffee were great also.

mclaurie Sep 23rd, 2008 02:42 PM

a) The Conservatory Garden in Central Park, entrance on 104 st. & Fifth Ave. Stop for coffee and bagel first to bring with. Where are you staying?

b) Cafe Sabarsky (opens at 9)

Sheygetz Sep 23rd, 2008 03:18 PM

>>Where are you staying?
The Millenium Broadway on TS.

Conservatory Garden is at the northern end, isn't it?


Anonymous Sep 23rd, 2008 03:47 PM

Yes, the Conservatory Garden is at the far northern end, near Fifth Avenue. Frankly, you're probably better-off spreading it out on your bed in the hotel room and ordering room service. Or pick a section or two to take to a park for an outing.

Centralparkgirl Sep 23rd, 2008 05:56 PM

Sorry Hendrik. You should NOT read your NYT that particular Sunday. Read it when you get home!

You will be in NY during an incredible time - that weekend is Open House NY - which happens once a year when many sites related to architecture and design (modern and very old) are open to the public.
It's a great event whether you visit a famous building, church, townhouse, etc., or someone's home - it's a terrific weekend. See site below. Soon all the listings will be online and you can plan where you want to visit. A few require advance reservation, but the majority do not.

I am a volunteer for OHNY. Last year I visited Cooper Hewitt and toured it as Andrew Carnegie's home. I visited an old cemetery in the East Village (that is always closed to the public). I toured the mansion on 79th and 5th that is now the Ukranian Art Center, but the tour was the building as a private home - everything in it is original.
These are a very few examples of what there is to see.

So, my Times will be delivered early, but I'll be out the door for OHNY. Last year, my volunteer shift was at an incredible Greek church in upper Manhattan - the mosaics and icons were beautiful - don't know where I'm assigned yet for this year, but I'm sure it will be wonderful!!

nstevey Sep 23rd, 2008 07:16 PM

I've been reading the Sunday Times online for awhile now, around Saturday, midnight - the Sunday edition is pretty much posted then, some sections already available days before. I also download to my iPhone parts to catch up on during the week. Real paper is so late 90s :-).

Starbucks is convenient, but I'd try and find an independent cafe, with sofas and a coffee table I can put my feet up on where the music selection is less predictable.

Park is nice, but the paper edition does not react well to wind. Or dogs. Or out of control kids.

Proenza_Preschooler Sep 23rd, 2008 07:28 PM

Shake Shack Madison Square Park.


Ryan Sep 24th, 2008 01:54 AM

It really depends on where your starting point is. I like the Bryant Park idea but I'm not traveling out of my way to read the paper there.

If going to Central Park, I might suggest you start somewhere first for brunch and a section or two. Maybe somewhere like Orsay or Payard on the Upper East Side. From there, stroll over to the park. I'd look for a spot behind the Met near the Obelisk.

bookhall Sep 24th, 2008 06:27 AM

Remember, too, if it's breezy, the Times will be a nightmare to read outside. I've tried. And lost....

Katie_H Sep 24th, 2008 11:02 AM

If you go the late Saturday pm of reading the paper, Esperanto Cafe on MacDougal would be a pleasant enough place to read's open around the clock last I checked.

Personally, I've read the paper many times sitting in Brooklyn Bridge Park, a small park situated between the Manhattan and Brooklyn Bridges on the Brooklyn side.

Of course, I'm not sure I'd recommend the trek...especially with CentralParkGirl's warning of the day's available open house but I thought I'd throw the idea out anyway. Thanks for the heads up CPG!

TC Sep 24th, 2008 11:15 AM

I agree with others, I either sit in my hotel bed with the paper spread around, great coffee and a bag of bagels or muffins -- OR -- I read it at home after my trip. At home, I have the NYTimes delivered on Sunday and take the whole week to read it.

Centralparkgirl Sep 24th, 2008 12:35 PM

Katie - I just saw an ad on a train that said October 5th is a big bike race. It didn't specify the route, but it implied some areas would only be open to bikes.

What do you know of this?

laurieb_nyny Sep 24th, 2008 12:45 PM

Your hotel is two blocks from Bryant Park so I agree with that suggestion. I hope it isn't windy! Sounds relaxing though.

Sheygetz Sep 26th, 2008 04:05 PM

Thanks for the multiple input, vibrant as usual I hasten to add. I've made a mental note of Bryant Park and Brooklyn Bridge Park - I actually intend to see Conservatory Gdn anyway, but maybe on a different occasion. The advice about wind, dogs and kids is plausible. Anyway, it looks as if centralparkgirl has finished the NYT idea for good, it looks as if OHNY is just the thing! We just had "Day of the open Monument" literally translated here in Germany and it's always nice to dicover things you may have walked past unknowingly for years, have a guided tour in a slightly extra-ordinary place. Just my kind of thing, thanks.

@centralparkgirl: Where's the Greek church exactly, please? Why don't you post where you're on duty and all available Fodorites will pop in to see you :-)
@Proenza_Preschooler: Would you care to expand on the Shake thing, I don't have the slightest.
@Ryan: A little more detail on the whereabouts of Orsay or Payard?


Centralparkgirl Sep 26th, 2008 07:28 PM

Hi Hendrik. I went to the OHNY volunteer training session last night. Everyone is very excited. They expect 200,000 visitors over that weekend. My assignment is Saturday Oct 4th 9:30 - 1:15 at the Forbes Gallery at 5th Ave and 12th St (it's #136 in the OHNY guide). I don't know if I'll be inside or outside, but it would be great to say hello to anyone from Fodors!

The church is St. Spyridon Greek Orthodox Church (#200) at 124 Wadsworth Ave/179th St in Washington Heights (near the #1 Train).

My suggestion is to look online at what's available. If you are in the city before 10/4, pick up the free guide/brochure at the locations listed online. You can then plan what you would like to visit. Some sites are open Sat only, some Sun, but many are open Sat and Sun. All sites will have some guide/brochures available. The guide is so helpful because there are maps that show sites, neighborhoods, subway routes, etc. If you show up at a site and it's very crowded, you can consult the guide to see what else is in the neighborhood.

The Greek church, to be honest, is not near a lot of other sites. If I had limited time, I would stay in an area where there are a lot of options.

The sites that require reservations may be filled already, but the majority don't require them; there will be plenty of great choices to visit. Some will be very quick visits and some will be lengthier.

I hope this helps. You will have a great time!

ellenem Sep 27th, 2008 05:59 AM

Shake Shack

nstevey Sep 27th, 2008 07:25 AM

Payard and Orsay is on Lex in the low 70s. Payard has out of the earth pastries, but for my taste, the place is a little stuffy.

If it rains (I only bring it up because it rained the last time I did Open House), the old library on 42nd is not a bad place to read the paper - it's open on Sundays I think.

sheri_lp Sep 27th, 2008 01:23 PM

Now that the NYT is free online you can read it anywhere with your laptop and no newsprint-fingers.

Sheygetz Sep 27th, 2008 04:46 PM

I for one LOVE newsprint fingers! And the rustling of the pages. And the shear size of it. Imagine! A 28" screen (roughly) and that's folded down the middle ;-)

No, I ain't bringing no laptop. Even though the regulations that have you surrender everything on it are not yet in effect.


sheri_lp Sep 27th, 2008 07:50 PM

haha! I love the paper and hate the ink but anything for the best travel section ever

travelgirl2 Sep 27th, 2008 11:18 PM

Love to read the Sunday paper.

centralparkgirl - thanks for posting about OHNY. I hadn't heard of it, so checked it out online. I would just love to visit some of the private residences, to get a taste of penthouse/loft/apartment living in NYC. Unfortunately, I can't make it this year, but I will definitely put it on my to-do list! Thanks again.

Aduchamp1 Sep 28th, 2008 01:43 AM

The Week In Review is the star of the Sunday Times. It is not a re-hash of the events but a supplement to them. Currently the columnists who appear on Sunday include Frank Rich, Tom Friedman, and Maureen Dowd. Newspaper writing at its finest.

sheri_lp Sep 28th, 2008 09:05 AM

Maybe someone 'up there' at the NYT read this question, because in today's Travel section is an article about New York's Hidden Parks -

Sheygetz Oct 1st, 2008 02:43 AM

This OHNY thing is really fabulous. Although I just do not get the attractiveness of some of the offerings - probably because I ain't no indegenious tribesman ;-) (talks about renovations of private apartments e.g.). We'll most certainly go for "Moore in America at The New York Botanical Garden". I just love the combination of sculpture and nature.

If anyone should travel the Scottish Border region, there's the "Moores on the moor", sculptures on a wide open, rather wild bit of landscape near Glenkiln (see pix here ). Just adorable.

Back to NYC and the topic: And when we're done with the Moores, we can still enjoy a section of the NYT in the Botanical Garden.


Sheygetz Oct 1st, 2008 02:53 AM

I should add, that the Greek church mentioned is actually in the vicinity of the BotGdn - well at least from across the Atlantic it is - and so we may well drop in there. I've also made a note of the East End cemeteries - personal hobby of mine. Radio City MH tours were booked solid, unfortunately. I've also found that Bryant has Tai Chi and piano performances etc.. As it's quite near to our hotels (we're moving at one point, prooved the better strategy on Priceline), I'll surely drop by. So, lots of valuable information, quite a lot of it perfectly unrelated to the topic, but hey, so what :-)

Thanks all around - Hendrik

Centralparkgirl Oct 1st, 2008 11:52 AM

Hendrik - the Moore in America exhibit was wonderful. Wear comfortable shoes because the exhibit is spread out through the entire BG. You can take a tram, but it's more fun to walk. If you have a cell phone with free or unlimited local calls, you can dial a number for certain sculptures and hear some interesting details about those pieces.

'East End' - I guess you mean the cemeteries in the East Village. If you get there, be sure to visit the one with the entrance on 2nd Avenue. There will surely be a lady there who is a trustee and her family has a cemetery vault. She can give you a lot of interesting background info. I volunteered there a few years back.

Have fun!

Sheygetz Nov 3rd, 2008 12:45 AM

What we ended up doing:

We did read the Sunday Times in our hotel room after all :-) Well, actually we didn't get around to much reading, there was just too much else to do. Out of the OHNY schedule we only managed the Chrysler Building lobby - one of my favourites out of a 10-day stay in New York - and one of the mentioned cemeteries. Well, maybe I should've read the description better, I had thought one would be able to see those catacombs, but you couldn't. So all you got was a plain grass backyard with a couple of headstones on the surrounding walls - duh. But - at least that got us well into the Eastern Village, which was really nice to walk around on a late Saturday afternoon. (Try the sesame and the ginger icecream at recently opened Sundaes & Cones on 10th street between 3rd and 4th ave - so yummie.) The Moore we moved to Wednesday, which wasn't OPNY anymore, but is also free admission. It was one of the most memorable things we did during our 3-week trip, certainly the winner in the "man-made-attractions-i.e.-not-landscape" category. Thanks again to Centralparkgirl to make us aware of this!

We finished that day by taking a bus all across to Washington Heights where we had lunch at the counter of the Fish Market on Broadway near 181st St (tip from this "food-porn" blog which I love ).

Centralparkgirl Nov 3rd, 2008 04:05 AM

>> Well, actually we didn't get around to much reading, there was just too much else to do. <<

LOL - this is a frequent problem for me on weekends. And then I save sections that I think I will get back to and before you know it, I have too much paper in my apartment.

So glad you enjoyed the Moore in America exhibit!

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