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travel3773 Jun 15th, 2006 07:06 PM

Where is the love?
 
I happen to really like Philadelphia (I live just outside Manhattan and have visited many times) yet it seems Philadelphia does not have the best reputation which I think is unfortunate because to me it is a great city with a lot of character. I posted a trip report on a San Francisco trip and said I liked New York and Philadelphia better than San Francisco and one of the responses included the following: "Philadelphia is to SF what Baghdad is to London!" which I just don't understand. :-\ Anyone care to defend Philly?

Scarlett Jun 15th, 2006 07:14 PM

I really liked Philadelphia too.
That quote makes no sense..someone trying to be clever.
But I lived in SF years ago and actually like it a tiny bit better than NYC where I also lived for many years.
:)
I think I might like Paris and London more than...hmmm..must think about this :)

laartista Jun 15th, 2006 07:23 PM

I really like Philly too. They have a great museum, important historic sights and really good food(including the cheesesteak). I'll actually be there for 3 days in July for Business and even though I live in NY, I'm planning on making a mini vaca and staying there. So if anyone knows about the Loews Hotel- feedback would be appreciated.

Scarlett Jun 15th, 2006 07:28 PM

We stayed at the Penns View Inn on the River..near Market St. Almost across the street from Fork which was my favorite restaurant at that time :)
Funny, we were talking about Philadelphia today, our friend is a brain surgeon there :) It was so beautiful last time we were there, azaleas all in bloom.

laartista Jun 15th, 2006 07:30 PM

Thanks Scarlett, I'm going to google that Inn.

Scarlett Jun 15th, 2006 07:34 PM

http://www.pennsviewhotel.com/

Parking is right next door.
Christ Church is a block or 2 down the street, the Liberty Bell is a few blocks past that..great location.

TKT Jun 15th, 2006 08:26 PM

I love Center City and what it offers. I think where Philly can fall behind other cities is the areas that surround center city can deteriorate fast.

sfamylou Jun 15th, 2006 08:40 PM

As someone who lived in San Francisco for a decade, I feel I can safely say that people living in that city have a real attitude about how great it is. And it IS beautiful and nice and a lot of other things. But many of its citizens have an inferiority complex, and they are constantly putting down LA and other cities, and trying to make the claim that they have better restaurants than NYC, etc. etc. etc. Personally, I think you can love your city and not have to put down other places. Maybe this is what made that person reply to you like that.

karens Jun 16th, 2006 04:24 AM

I've lived in Phila. and currently live in the suburbs. Phila. is a very livable city. While doesn't have all the amenities of NYC and it lacks some of the charm of Boston, it beats both in cost of living and traffic congestion.

Some of my favorite things to do aren't even on the typical tourist itineraries. Rollerblading or biking along the Schuylkill River drives is great. It's a good path and fun to be around so many people enjoying themselves. When we lived in center city, I used to love exploring all the little side streets and courtyards.

One thing that's hard to love (but we do) is our sports teams. But they are still better than Baghdads!!

schmerl Jun 16th, 2006 04:31 AM

Philadelphia seems to get slammed a lot. W.C. Fields may have started it.
Philly is a wonderful city with so much to offer. I doubt the person who made that statement has ever visited the City of Brotherly Love!

radiofanatic Jun 16th, 2006 04:34 AM

My hubby and I loved Philadelphia and we've been both in the middle of winter and the middle of summer. Great place - loved the history and thought it was very clean. We would definitely go back.

AnnMarie_C Jun 16th, 2006 04:48 AM

It's been years since I've been to Philadelphia so I am really excited about plans to go this October--I love Philly! Yesterday, though, I was disappointed to read that The Heart at the Franklin Institute has been replaced with a new and improved replica--for old times sake I was really hoping to walk through the old heart one more time, oh well. In high school I got to march in the Gimbles Parade! The Italian Market is fantastic--my NYC born and raised Italian step-father, who currently lives in Maryland, drives there once a month to stock-up.

Every place we visit is different and of course we like some places more than others but in liking one place more we don't put other places down. To each his own.

In my head I hear the old (?) Action News theme music playing--oh, dear! :-)

Amy Jun 16th, 2006 05:09 AM

Philadelphia has beauty and charm and livability along with its history; it's always a pleasure for me to walk in the city in many different areas, seeing the varied architecture and stopping to get good food at anything from a sidewalk cart to some of the best restaurants in the country, or resting in one of the many parks or "green areas" or along the rivers.

The past 15 years or so have seen wonderful improvements, including the areas "around center city." Historically these areas were where those who could not afford the so-called streetcar neighborhoods lived, but now there's regeneration in many neighborhoods that were once considered questionable at best.

Any city has problems of its own kind; to me, there's no point in comparing cities as each is unique due to history and circumstances.

I've spent 41 years in Philadelphia and I'm not bored with it yet! (If you click on my user name there are a few Philadelphia posts that pop up; I'm always happy to let anyone know why it's a great place to visit.)

Jed Jun 16th, 2006 05:24 AM

I don't know if Philly is a better than any other city, but it is a reasonable place to live.

In the past 20 years, there has been a resurgence of building, culture, arts, sports, entertainment, restaurants, tourism, etc.

We live in the suburbs, and it (usually) takes us just 35 min to get into the center, and parking is reasonable. We were there last night for dinner and to see a play, one of 5 series that we have, so we go in frequently.

In the past few years ther has been an explosive increase in condo building in center city, with people moving back in, buying ever larger and more expensive condos. Now other areas are modernizing. Philly has embarked on a cycle of progress, a rising tide which appears to be raising most, but not all, boats. ((*))

Amy Jun 16th, 2006 05:49 AM

Just a bit of a PS: If you really want to see the love, go to http://community.webshots.com/user/missalg and click on the album "One Day in Philadelphia". There's the love, right in JFK Plaza!

J_Correa Jun 16th, 2006 06:17 AM

I've been to Philadelphia a couple times - day trips while visiting friends and family in PA and NJ. While I have only scratched the surface on those trips, it seems like a really cool place. I would definitely be interested in seeing more of it.

I loved the neighborhood between Independence Park and South Street (I think - the street with all the eclectic shops, pubs, and so on that is easily walkable from Independence Park). The architecture of those homes is really wonderful and the streets are very inviting, very comfortable for walking.

A lot of things in Philadelphia seem to be on a pedestrian scale, which I really like.

FainaAgain Jun 16th, 2006 11:16 AM

Maybe that poster meant safety issues? My son travels in US a lot, and he said once, SF is the safest city he's been to. Not sure if he went to Philadelphia or not.

NatureGirl19317 Jun 16th, 2006 11:39 AM

Dear laartista,

Good afternoon! Ive stayed at the Philadelphia Loews many times and it never disappoints! I like to request a room on the higher floors to get a great view-the city lights are beautiful! Have a great time!

Sincerely,

Carrie in PA

laartista Jun 16th, 2006 11:44 AM

Thanks carrie for the review and to scarlett for the link.

Funnygirl1 Jun 18th, 2006 02:57 PM

I visit Philly alot because I have parents who live there so I think my opinon is pretty much qualified. I absolutley love Philadelphia. I think it is truly one of the most urban cities in the U.S.It also has the whole pakage. If you like grit, Philly's got it. If you like quiet, suburban like areas, Philly's got that too. Unlike cities like Boston, SF, NY, etc, it hasn't found its niche. But most importantly, it still has room to improve whereas the other cities are already "in". I'm looking forward to it really coming into its own because when it does it'll be amazing.


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