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FrankS Jan 13th, 2014 09:04 AM

Another good tip is to watch the Better Bidding win list. Sometimes major chains will offer deals throughout their network throughout the calender. Ive been very fortunate to book several Westins(most often get SPG credit) at staggered intervals just to find all those deals gone a few weeks later

musicfan Jan 13th, 2014 10:36 AM

NorthwestMale pretty much nailed it. I don't think it was mentioned previously, but you are probably bidding way too early for New York in June. I seem to recall that NYC is one of those cities in which the best deals are last minute ones.

In addition to Priceline, sign up for Travelzoo and Jetsetter--New York hotel deals come up on those sites frequently.

I LOVE Priceline and have gotten some great deals with them over the years--once you have a winning bid that's a great deal at an awesome hotel, you'll be hooked!

NorthwestMale Jan 13th, 2014 04:41 PM

And yeah, the only thing I never touched upon is how laughable are those who use and adore <I>Priceline</i> and then grumble that the hotel treated them like <I>"Priceline scum"</i>.

It's OK to beeeeeeeeeee <I>Priceline scum</i> when you're looking at your 40-70% savings from the rack rate, in <b>some</b> <I>Priceline</i> situations. In all honesty, while I might not have had <I>the room with the best view</i> when the places were <b>full</b>, I've <b><i>never</i></b> had an instance of being truly <I>mistreated</i> for my having booked through Priceline.

I look at Priceline as a means through which the <b>more expensive hotels</b> have a legitimate shot at <I>(your dad)</i> when he would cart the family into various towns on vacation, and then have everybody search for the red <b>"Vacancy"</b> sign late at night. And that's fine (for all sides).

(*** Dad really wasn't going to pay anymore than he typically did - he was just likely to land in better digs for his hotel dollar)

and <b>Millie:</b>

With a window of "7 nights" you may (because you offer them 7 "room nights" {vs. Priceline's more typical night or three} find them <b>more inclined</b> to accept your bid), <b>or you may</b> find your {week-long} bids <I>repeatedly stuck/rejected</i> because of <b>one particular date</b> among your 7 where <b>all</b> rooms are full (and nobody has anything left to give Priceline).

It is very easy to break-up your stay across two hotels, perhaps checking out of one on the morning of a day when some big shindig is scheduled nearby to that one... and into another hotel a way down the street (perhaps for the remainder of your stay, <b>or</b> perhaps just for the one or two <I>challenging nights</i>).

Have to admit that such a picture looks better to those who <I>know what they're doing</i> and who are very familiar with the Priceline layout.

As for the immediate future, <b>because</b> you <b>ARE</B> wanting to bid for a full 7 days, your business might be enough of a plum to find a place accepting you for 7 days so far in advance. But by all means, toward that end, <b>start LOW</b> and just inch-up your bids.

I just now looked at the Priceline website, to see the various <b>"zones"</b> offered there.

Let me say that <b>the first operation anybody should DO</b> upon going to Priceline with serious interest in getting a room <i>now/today</i> (for a future stay, I mean) <b>is to list ALL of the zones in the town/city of interest</b>. THEN, you go ONE-by-<b>one</b> through them, <b>as if you were ONLY going to stay in THAT zone</b>. Write down the HIGHEST hotel class for each zone <b>remembering to UN-CLICK the previous zone, so you get a clear read!!!!!!</b>

In NYC as of right NOW... zones #8 and #13 <b>do not have 4-star hotels contained within them</b>. That means they are <I>"free-rebid zones"</i> for persons trying for 4-star hotels in any other zone. (definition: <B>Because</b> Priceline requires that you <I>change something</I> about your original bid before bidding again, you would then <b>add this <I>impossible</i> zone</b>, which would not affect your original bid at all - they can't give you a <b>4-star hotel</b> when none exists in zone #8)

(for the most part, that isn't a <I>comfort</i> relative to <b>other cities, which tend to have many MORE free-rebid zones</b>. However, perhaps NYC has <b>more areas in which you would consent to STAY</b> - <I>which partly makes up for it</i> )

<I>(Then it is very wise to familiarize yourself with the "rack rate" among <B>LOTS</B> of the hotels in your targeted area - if, for example, some spot is having a giant special of $150 a night that week, <b>YOU</b> certainly don't want to pay $180 a night <b>and</b> the Priceline fees)</i>

So, for further example, IF in New York I would consent to stay most anywhere in zones #2, #11, #12, or #16, I guess I'd list those in my head in order of preference (maybe 16-2-12-11), <b>then</b> I would add the aforementioned <I>"free-rebid zones"</i> (#8 and #13).

Maybe with my $180 (dream??), I might start this far in advance bidding $150 (base rate) for 7 nights as my very first bid, then maybe boost up the bid $5 worth while adding my 2nd choice zone, my 3rd choice zone, my 4th choice zone, then my first <b>free-rebid zone</b> and then my second free-rebid zone.

IF my wishes were heavily centered on <b>staying in ONE particular zone</b>, then I'd alter the order in which I did my bidding, using the <b><I>free-rebid zones</i></b> before my 2nd, 3rd, and 4th preference zones. Not that it would make <I>that</i> must difference as decribed, but maybe.

<b>Hopefully though</b>, your NYC lodging needs are flexible, and afford you a vast swath of real estate from which you might pluck a 4-star hotel at an affordable price</b>.

Hope this helps paint a clearer picture.



PS - Oh yeah, I never even THOUGHT about the could-be added <b>convenience</b> to <I>relocating yourselves</i> mid-week, for the specific <b>purpose</b> of placing yourself nearer to new and different attractions (perhaps having a positive impact on your transportation budget in the process). And yeah, I know it is <I>"traditional"</i> to drop your bags and accumulate all of your souvenirs in one room, for a week.

Good luck

NorthwestMale Jan 13th, 2014 04:49 PM

Wow, I just... looked at somebody's offered <I>biddingtraveler.com</i>... just to see what it was about...


<b>and I can promise you, Millie, that the Priceline bidding process <I>is METHODICAL, and LOGICAL all the way through</i>... so</b> a computerized system LIKE that is <I>likely</i> to work.

I remain a tad <I>fearful of the unknown</i>, but I <b>know that the approach should be very suitable to a logic-based program</b>. (though I'd love to see data for all hotels won that way, to see if the amounts were near the <b>center</b> of the offered ranges, and <b>not near the TOP</b> of the offered ranges)

Best way to utilize something like that is to <b>reduce your bids even further as you test it out</b>.

If the rack rates were $300, and I was hoping for $180, and willing to pay $210 (plus priceline fees), and starting my bidding at $150... <b>I <i>probably wouldn't complain</i> if I landed a room at $140 when merely <I>experimenting</i></b>

enjoyinglife Jan 24th, 2014 04:42 PM

A few other suggestions. The Hudson Hotel, which is right at Columbus Circle has specials. The prices generally increase as you get closer to the date.
Also, you can get a great apartment on www.airbnb.com. I checked and found a penthouse overlooking the river for a little under $200 a night.

millie2112 Jan 24th, 2014 07:14 PM

thanks everyone. I will definately have a go bidding closer to June.
enjoyinglife - thanks for the info on the Hudson HOtel, which i will definately look into. However, I am a bit worried about going down the airbnb path as I understand it is illegal in NYC.

abram Jan 24th, 2014 08:01 PM

Almost all apartment rentals for less than 30 days are ILLEGAL in NYC and many of them are scams.

janisj Jan 24th, 2014 11:16 PM

enjoyinglife: >>Also, you can get a great apartment on www.airbnb.com. I checked and found a penthouse overlooking the river for a little under $200 a night.<<

Please don't encourage folks to look for short term apartments in NY since about 99.7% of them are illegal.

nytraveler Jan 25th, 2014 05:15 AM

Agreed - unless the owner is still stayin in the apt this is definitely illegal - if it isn't a scam. (Air BnB knows this and continues to allow these illegal istings.)

The only way this is legal is if 1) it is in a room/rooms in a privately owned family home (VERY few of these in Manhattan) or if the owner stays in the apt with you - and the landlord or co-op/condo rules allow it - most don't).

I wouldn't want to risk the chance of getting there and not having a place to stay.


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