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Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 08:04 AM


Originally Posted by Memma12 (Post 17156385)
Have you considered taking the train for any of these sections? The Coast Starlight from the Bay Area to Seattle is really beautiful, and the Rocky Mountaineer in Canada or the Canadian are really special.
PM me if you need more info!

Thanks man! I have heard about those special trains, and I will definitely take a look at them. I think I will visit Seattle, from there take a train to Vancouver and go check out the Canadian Rockies. It will be around June/July - is that a good season for that area?

Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by dfrostnh (Post 17156434)
I don't know about August in Washington DC but August and September are great months for New England/Boston, Niagra Falls and Canada. Washington to Boston via car would not be my choice since there is a lot of traffic problems near each city, i.e. getting past Hartford CT when it's not rush hour. You don't want a car in Boston but driving north thru New England or over to Niagra Falls could be a beautiful drive since you mentioned nature.

Thanks a lot!

Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by oldemalloy (Post 17156498)
There are pros and cons to starting on either coast. The most popular National Parks like Grand Canyon, Yosemite, and Yellowstone will be more crowded in the summer because people with kids tend to vacation then.

you do need to be sure that the sites you want to visit are fully open when you travel. Expect some snow in Yellowstone until mid June. Expect some parts of Yosemite to be closed in the spring but the waterfalls are great so it may be crowded in the valley. I would worry less about the weather in the cities because you will be inside a building or a car or bus when there. A general rule of travel is visit the cities on the weekend when they tend to be less busy and the parks mid week.

Do look into the option of renting a car in the wast and doing a loop. The flying to the cities. If you fly in the US, look on the sites like travelocity,kayak, etc. and also look at Jet Blue and Southwest who are often less expensive.
Have fun planning and taking the trip.

Really helped, thank you!

amyb Sep 15th, 2020 08:24 AM

As a MA native, I think it depends on when you're planning to be here and what you're planning to do. Spring has been virtually non-existent the last few years, more like 3 months of March that go straight into summer. Think: cold, damp, overcast, often rainy. I'd say from June to mid-July here would be great. Definitely not April or May. But I'd not be here from mid-July through August either. Humidity can be beastly although it wasn't too bad this year, IMO. It's hard to predict. But also depends on what you're planning to do around here. If you're parking on a beach or down on the islands, it may not matter.

I did go to D.C. once mid-August because there was a museum exhibition I was dying to see. D.C. makes our humidity here look like child's play. On the walk from the Metro to the museum, maybe 15 minutes around 9 am, I ended up completely drenched in sweat, like every inch of my clothing just ridiculously soaked. Not a fun way to spend the rest of the day. Police chase you off the Mall midday for your own safety when it gets hot too. It is the most uncomfortable I've ever been. I was once in Visalia, CA in August when it was 115 degrees but 10% humidity and I'd take that any day over 90 and 75% humidity in D.C.

Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 10:30 AM

Wow, thanks man


sludick Sep 15th, 2020 12:30 PM

The train from Seattle to Vancouver is only 4 hours, but it is an enjoyable ride. From there, you say you are going to check out the Canadian Rockies - are you planning to rent a car and drive, or take the train? We love the drive - plan on it taking 2 days unless you want to stop and explore some areas. You can also make it in one marathon drive, but what's the point? The scenery is spectacular for the most part. The train will pass through some of the best scenery at night, keep that in mind. The Rocky Mountaineer is very pricey, as you will find.

Myer Sep 15th, 2020 04:27 PM

I didn't see where you mentioned the length of the trip but someone wrote 4 months.

My question would be.: How old are you? and Do you see travelling becoming habit forming?

You have several trips here, many places have relatively short seasons and you've left out many spectacular places. Maybe you've seen them already.

Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Myer (Post 17156979)
I didn't see where you mentioned the length of the trip but someone wrote 4 months.

My question would be.: How old are you? and Do you see travelling becoming habit forming?

You have several trips here, many places have relatively short seasons and you've left out many spectacular places. Maybe you've seen them already.

I am 21, just taking a 4-5 months trip to the US.

Travelboy007 Sep 15th, 2020 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by sludick (Post 17156918)
The train from Seattle to Vancouver is only 4 hours, but it is an enjoyable ride. From there, you say you are going to check out the Canadian Rockies - are you planning to rent a car and drive, or take the train? We love the drive - plan on it taking 2 days unless you want to stop and explore some areas. You can also make it in one marathon drive, but what's the point? The scenery is spectacular for the most part. The train will pass through some of the best scenery at night, keep that in mind. The Rocky Mountaineer is very pricey, as you will find.

Thank you for your helpful comment. Do you recommend them renting a car and driving to the Canadian Rockies, or would you say The Canadian / The Rocky Mountaineer would be a more enjoyable experience?

sludick Sep 16th, 2020 04:03 AM

Driving yourself via car, absolutely. We have done this a number of times and varied our route, and I would go again at any opportunity.

schmerl Sep 16th, 2020 04:35 AM

You might also consider a coach/bus tour through the Canadian Rockies. That way they do the driving and also provide tour guides who give LOTS of information about the area.
Several years ago we used Brewsters Tours. You can do day trips, several days, etc.
https://www.banffjaspercollection.co...r-sightseeing/

Jean Sep 16th, 2020 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by Travelboy007 (Post 17157032)
I am 21, just taking a 4-5 months trip to the US.


Where is your citizenship? Visits to the U.S. from most countries are limited to 90 days. I visa is not required if you're from a country in the Visa Waiver Program, but you do need a valid ESTA. However, citizens of some countries must obtain a visa.

https://travel.state.gov/content/tra...ing%20a%20visa.

If you're caught over-staying, you could jeopardize your ability to travel to the U.S. in the future.

Most U.S. car rental companies assess a surcharge for drivers under 25 years of age.

janisj Sep 16th, 2020 02:41 PM

Renting a car when under 25 can mean a very large extra charge. Also factored in will be how long you have had a license -- some agencies may not rent to you at all. What country are you from -- it might make a difference?

My initial thoughts (before seeing your age and that you are visiting from overseas) were that it is almost impossible to arrange that wide ranging a trip through so many different climate zones to hit decent weather in all of them. With full flexibility I would not hit: 1) the eastern seaboard/mid Atlantic/Wash.DC in the summer; 2) Yosemite in July/Aug/early Sept; 3) the Grand Canyon in summer; 4) San Francisco in June (June gloom is a real thing)

Plus this would be a semi-complicated wish list for a US citizen to fit into one trip driving their own car and not having to deal with long term car rental.

soooo what I'd do is cut back both the length and scope of your trip . . . something like 7-8 weeks on the west coast/SW, - or - 6-ish weeks on the east coast/eastern Canada, - or - 6-8 weeks for the Pacific northwest and western Canada. Not trying to fit in 10 or 15 states/provinces in one huge trip.

Travelboy007 Sep 17th, 2020 04:24 AM

Thanks, I am taking a look at it. Would it be better than driving myself? I mean, I don’t know if I want a tour on a bus with a bunch of other people. Driving myself with a friend has something intimate about it. Please correct me if I’m wrong - is the tour an enjoyable experience?

Travelboy007 Sep 17th, 2020 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by Jean (Post 17157135)
Where is your citizenship? Visits to the U.S. from most countries are limited to 90 days. I visa is not required if you're from a country in the Visa Waiver Program, but you do need a valid ESTA. However, citizens of some countries must obtain a visa.


If you're caught over-staying, you could jeopardize your ability to travel to the U.S. in the future.

Most U.S. car rental companies assess a surcharge for drivers under 25 years of age.

I’m from Israel. I don’t think there should be any problem. I have spoken to people here who had been on a long trip in the states.

Travelboy007 Sep 17th, 2020 04:37 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17157249)
Renting a car when under 25 can mean a very large extra charge. Also factored in will be how long you have had a license -- some agencies may not rent to you at all. What country are you from -- it might make a difference?

My initial thoughts (before seeing your age and that you are visiting from overseas) were that it is almost impossible to arrange that wide ranging a trip through so many different climate zones to hit decent weather in all of them. With full flexibility I would not hit: 1) the eastern seaboard/mid Atlantic/Wash.DC in the summer; 2) Yosemite in July/Aug/early Sept; 3) the Grand Canyon in summer; 4) San Francisco in June (June gloom is a real thing)

Plus this would be a semi-complicated wish list for a US citizen to fit into one trip driving their own car and not having to deal with long term car rental.

soooo what I'd do is cut back both the length and scope of your trip . . . something like 7-8 weeks on the west coast/SW, - or - 6-ish weeks on the east coast/eastern Canada, - or - 6-8 weeks for the Pacific northwest and western Canada. Not trying to fit in 10 or 15 states/provinces in one huge trip.

I’m from Israel, 21 years of age. I’ve been holding a driving license for 4.5 years now. Unfortunately renting a car for my age is more expensive... However, I do not have any intention holding a car for the whole trip. In some destinations I will rent, in others not necessarily. I will try to use public transportation as much as I can, cheap flights and etc. I think it should work. I think I will start with the West Coast in the end of April / beginning of May, so that I would hit Yosemite on May (at the time when the waterfalls are at their peak), the Grand Canyon and SF on May also. So there shouldn’t be a problem. I plan to visit D.C. on September when the weather is ok.

sludick Sep 17th, 2020 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by Travelboy007 (Post 17157375)
I’m from Israel. I don’t think there should be any problem. I have spoken to people here who had been on a long trip in the states.

Definitely something to check on. You may find that unless you have a R B1/B2 visa, you will be limited to 90 days. Also, the under-25 surcharge for car rental. I hope it can all work out for you. I can share some of our past routings Vancouver-Rockies once you get the legal/financial logistics worked out.

Myer Sep 17th, 2020 05:44 AM

I asked age, etc for a reason.
You have several trips mixed together and you've omitted some very worthy sights.
If this is a trip of a lifetime then fine.
If you think this is only the beginning of your travels then maybe split this into several trips.

Travelboy007 Sep 17th, 2020 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by sludick (Post 17157381)
Definitely something to check on. You may find that unless you have a R B1/B2 visa, you will be limited to 90 days. Also, the under-25 surcharge for car rental. I hope it can all work out for you. I can share some of our past routings Vancouver-Rockies once you get the legal/financial logistics worked out.

I would love to see your past routings. That souls help a lot

Travelboy007 Sep 17th, 2020 05:50 AM


Originally Posted by Myer (Post 17157391)
I asked age, etc for a reason.
You have several trips mixed together and you've omitted some very worthy sights.
If this is a trip of a lifetime then fine.
If you think this is only the beginning of your travels then maybe split this into several trips.

The USA has a lot to offer, and I won’t be able to see it all in one shot. I’m sure I’ve omitted some pretty noticeable destinations, but I included the ones I think I should visit this trip. I believe my trip is not something that can’t be done. With the right planning and preparation it will work out.
But still - any worthy sites I haven’t included you think I should add to my route?


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