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msjohnson1974 Jun 7th, 2010 06:54 AM

Toddler as lapchild
 
Would you let someone use your child's birth certificate because their toddler is 2 or older. So they can fly free as a lapchild. I have someone I know asking me if they can use my sons birth certificate because my son is only 1.5. Her grandson is 2.5. I said no. This is against the law if caught I am sure their would be all kinds of trouble. Also I dont loan my personal information out. Any thoughts on this. My guess most people would say no way.

MikeT Jun 7th, 2010 07:01 AM

Cheap cheap people. You are right not to help her out.

RVtraveler Jun 7th, 2010 07:08 AM

Very simply, YOU are right. Obey the law.

Also, there is a reason for the law - the safety of the child and comfort of other passengers.

abram Jun 7th, 2010 07:09 AM

You're right--I say NO WAY!!

vjpblovesitaly Jun 7th, 2010 07:10 AM

You need to associate with a higher class of people.

ellenem Jun 7th, 2010 07:14 AM

With your child's birth certificate, the person's child is now supposed to be your child, Therefore, the person would also need a legal document from you allowing him or her to take "your" child on a trip.

This is wrong is so many ways.

Barblab Jun 7th, 2010 07:33 AM

A 2 year old knows it's name, what happens when an airline emplyee says "my Billy, you are sure big for your age".

You are so right to say no. I would HATE to be stuck next to this "big" wiggling 2 year old traveling as a lap child on a long flight

msjohnson1974 Jun 7th, 2010 07:42 AM

Barblab I thought about that also. What if his name is called by the person or vice versa. Their is all kinds of ways to get caught in this. And this kid can pass for 3. He is big. It will be best she just gets him a seat anyway. This is my bf sister and she is still bugging him about this. She is trying to go over my head through him. He knows where I stand. Also he doesnt know where I keep it anyway.

Placename Jun 7th, 2010 07:54 AM

Your child''s birth certificate?

This is an incredibly important permanent record. No way in Holy HeLL0 I would ever let anyone have my childs' birth certificate for any purpose.

I also think this is technically fraud. Do you really want to be a party to that?

There could also be problems if the airline perceives that an adult is traveling with a child that is not their relative, without express written permission from you. Could lead to a very unpleasant potential legal issue.

Stay away from this person. They are worse than cheap. This is not an honest person, and this person perceives that you are not honest, either.

As vjpblovesitaly says: "You need to associate with a better class of person"

Placename Jun 7th, 2010 07:56 AM

She is trying to go over your bf head to get your child's birth certificate?

Put it in a bank safe deposit box.

DebitNM Jun 7th, 2010 08:18 AM

No, for all the above reasons. But here is one more reason, albeit a terrible one -- God forbid, if there is an accident; The child perishes. The child is presumed to be your child. I can't imagine anything much worse.

Airline personel are not stupid, they will know that a 2.5 year old isn't 1.5 years old. Then what? She will have to pay last minute fare for child's seat and it will cost $$$$.

november_moon Jun 7th, 2010 08:24 AM

If he knew were it was, would your boyfriend hand over your child's birth certificate? If so, then yeah - DEFINITELY time to associate with a better class of people. I'd start by dumping the boyfriend who would be a party to fraud and play fast and loose with your child's identification.

msjohnson1974 Jun 7th, 2010 08:29 AM

November moon he wouldnt do that. The sister seems to think he should. My bf just wants this topic to be closed. I gave this woman advice on flying with a toddler because I flown with my son a few times. She thought that a tot can just sit on her lap no big deal. I told her that once a certain age you cant do that. Then she got this idea in her head I would help her. What is even sadder about this she sees nothing wrong with what she is asking.

nytraveler Jun 7th, 2010 08:53 AM

First - of course not - why help her circumvent airline regulations?

Second, think of the safety of the child. IMHO lap children should not be allowed and every living person should have a seat.

sf7307 Jun 7th, 2010 09:01 AM

<<<I also think this is technically fraud.>>>

Nothing "technical" about it.

<<<IMHO lap children should not be allowed and every living person should have a seat.>>>

I didn't even realize they were still allowed (other than real infants). I agree with nyt.


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