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Texas Experts: DFW area to San Antonio via Killeen????

Texas Experts: DFW area to San Antonio via Killeen????

Old Jul 7th, 2005, 07:35 AM
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Thanks for the update, aggiemom. I'm sure everything will go smoothly and the girls will have a wonderful time.
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 08:11 AM
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aggiemom - I agree with the I35 route. But do caution your daughter that there are many aggressive drivers and to be a defensive driver and just let them have their way. Don't try to be in a big hurry. I remember "road trips" we made at that age and it's easy to throw caution to the wind!
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 09:11 AM
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aggiemom -

Something interesting you said here: ...everything goes smoothly or you'll be in the doghouse...

How about this: the kid who makes the mistake or has a problem will be in the doghouse, not you. The girls are adults. If their parents put any blame on you, it's their way of dealing with problems - never taking any blame or responsibility for themselves and their actions. It's always somebody else's fault.
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 09:47 AM
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I have driven both many times. 67/281 is a long connection to the SW of D and pretty dangerous.
The traffic on 35 in Austin is ridiculous (I last drove through on 22 Apr on my way from D to SMdA, MX).
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 11:24 AM
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I'm coming in late but am curious as to what they've done. Hopefully the trip has begun and they'll have a great time.

It's probably a fait accomplis by now, but we are just back from vacation and I've just seen this thread, and couldn't resist adding my 2 cents as well. My husband is all in the I-35 camp. I've done 281 a couple of times and LOVE it. I-35 between Dallas and SA is about the most boring drive I've ever made. 281 is scenic and not heavily traveled...good and bad I suppose, and absolutely no more speeders, probably fewer, than I-35. It goes through rural Texas where people still do "drive friendly", actually pulling over onto the shoulder to allow faster drivers to get around safely. I-35 south of Austin has become a driver's nightmare of concrete chutes with no wiggle room and huge semi's overwhelming the already narrow lanes. I've got a little Z3 and feel so darned vulnerable driving 35 here, which I have to do often as we live off it, that I'm seriously considering trading the car in on something bigger--and I've been driving for longer than I care to say, and without an accident (or ticket). It's not me or my driving I'm concerned about--it's all the other guys.

At one point we lived in Plano, but in San Antonio now. Neither our son nor daughter were allowed to drive themselves to school from Plano their freshman year...nor did we want them to have cars on campus that year...and it had nothing to do with safety nor driving back and forth, but distractions. DD started at UT and graduated from A&M. She always drove herself from sophomore year on. Son, at TX Tech made the 5 or 6 hour drive from Plano to Lubbock himself as well...after freshman year.

I was a good kid and student too, but I pulled some of the most stupid stunts, especially early on in college...it's amazing that I survived it and graduated, frankly! Knowing what I do I believe I was cautious with my own two, and living in Texas had virtually NOTHING to do with that. I was born and raised in MA, ending up here by default only, through my husband's job and after our kids were in school. The child rearing practices I saw in Plano weren't much different than those we saw in Boston where we lived prior to that. I may be mistaken, but I'm reading a bit pride in the southern CA thing. Don't sell your fellow Texans short, especially those around the Southlake area...which I for some reason picture you living in...don't ask me why! It's a pretty hip community. Natalie Holloway was 18 too, on a chaperoned trip to Aruba of all places, and in the company, it seems, of kids with similar hopes and aspirations. You would have thought it'd be safe. It wasn't. I guess my goal was to make it as hard as possible for something similar to happen to one of mine. It didn't seem to have stunted them a bit, both now married and successful adults...not the kind to cower in corners either, but rock climbers, solo campers (even my daughter camping solo in outback Utah when her husband was away), venturing into Mexico without a backward glance for more advanced climbing etc. I really hate to see people coming down too hard on parents of 18 and 19 year olds! They are, after all, at the point where they are still very much kids one day, and adults, maybe, with luck, the next.
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 11:38 AM
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Pepper - You're right! It really is the girls' problems. Something happens when I get around these over-protective (and overbearing in many cases) parents and I don't always state my case.

As it so happens, one less kid AGAIN went on the trip this morning. Now it's just my daughter and one other.

It's a combination of young adults with changing lives, meeting new friends but also some major interference from a parent.

It turns out that one friend (N) asked her friend (R) along in place of (G) whose parents said "no." Well, N did not check with T (other Mom's DD) and D (my DD). The girls were a little miffed but went along with it. However, T's Mom got involved and since it was HER car the girls were taking she said NO to R. Mom's reasons she gave to me were: the girl's parents are divorced, she doesn't have good supervision, she doesn't know the girl well enough and T (her DD) and D (my DD) were kind of pissed. Well, yeah, they were pissed but got over it. Mom went over everyone's head and said NO to this other girl. It has caused so much grief for the girls that we thought NO one was going to go this morning! Of course my DD offered to drive HER car but T's Mom said she wouldn't allow her DD to go with R at any rate. Arrrrrggh!

Honestly, this really should have been handled amongst the friends. To top it off T's Mom wants the girls to return a day early and, if not, leave by 7:00 AM the last day! Come on, these are young ladies on vacation. I was so pissed at her butting in but she clearly was dealing with sooo much anxiety about her daughter going away that I didn't voice my opinions. I encouraged my DD to stay as long as she wants, have fun.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2005, 11:43 AM
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PS: I posted a thread on the Europe forum asking for opinions on when parents thought their children would be ready to travel by themselves. It's been very interesting and obviously the other parents involved in my DD's debacle are in the minority, thank goodness!
 
Old Jul 7th, 2005, 12:01 PM
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aggiemom -

They are called "crazy-makers" for a reason and they are everywhere. Just seperate yourself...and you'll be fine.

...and take a deep breath!!!
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Old Jul 7th, 2005, 12:52 PM
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OO - Thanks for chiming in - I read your post only after I already posted my last one. I really appreciate you taking the time to contribute even though it might have been "too late" to help.

You have many good points and it seems like your kids have turned out great. And that's what we all want, right? I don't mean to sound like I'm blaming Texas and praising California for my life. There are many things we love about Texas. And many things we Hate about California! Sometimes, though, I fear I don't fit in, and seem to be a "rebel" Mom!

I was just frustrated and wanted my daughter to have a fun time, loosen up. She's a very hard worker (will be a sophomore at A&M as if you couldn't guess by my screen name!) and has always been pretty independent, as have all our girls. I think she may need to expand her horizons and find some more compatible (sp??) friends, but the kids involved in this trip were her very first friends in Texas, from three years ago and really are sweet girls. So there is a strong bond.

DD called me a few minutes ago and they are making their way through Austin on 35 without problems. Let's hope the good times will roll their way!

 
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