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SW airkines announces fat people will have to buy 2 seats!

SW airkines announces fat people will have to buy 2 seats!

Jun 20th, 2002, 03:40 PM
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This is easy. Start a new airline say Air Buffalo...where we strive to get you fat a.. off the ground.

Jun 20th, 2002, 05:19 PM
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I don't have a problem with people being asked to pay extra for more room if they need it, and fortunately I don't need it myself. But this thread is further proof that the internet is a haven for cowards and bigots. I wonder how many of the fat-haters here would have the personal courage to go up to a heavy person they don't know and tell them to go on the Atkins diet.

If 60% of the US public is overweight, I'd say that's a social problem that you can't explain away by accusing people of being weak-willed. Should the ADA cover it? I don't know. Medicare covers people's health crises brought on by smoking or alcohol abuse. If your meth lab blows up and leaves you blind you get ADA coverage, or if you make a hard tackle playing high school football and end up in a wheelchair, ditto. All those are "avoidable" disabilities brought on by "irresponsible" behavior. Do you bitch that the best parking spaces are given to people who might have become disabled skydiving?

How would you feel if someone walked up to you and told you you're ugly and you should have plastic surgery? My hunch is your reply would start with the letter F.

The fact is, bigotry is easier on the brain than thinking it through. If you had some compassion you'd have to decide whether or not to act on it. Better just to type your hatred out on the internet than to step up and face your own disability.
Jun 20th, 2002, 05:42 PM
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While this sounds like a reasonable idea on the surface, when you really THINK about it, this is just another example of our over-nannying society.

Today, it's socially-acceptable nannying, like smoking and being overweight. But what will it be tomorrow? People who use too much (or not enough) perfume? How about banning meals containing meat from the airlines and at the airport (most airlines have already done this with peanuts because of a mere handful of people with allergies)? How about refusing people with leather luggage/clothing/accessories from travelling? Not going to an ecologically-friendly destination? Not anymore!

So to those of you who think this is such a hot idea, THINK about what politically-incorrect thought/action you do that someone else will try to step in like a scolding parent and prevent you from doing . . . ?
Jun 20th, 2002, 07:11 PM
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I, for one, HAVE given this alot of thought DS and I fail to see how any rational person can argue against this rule. Its common sense. I admit, leaving it up to the "judgement" of the ticket person is insane, but the bottom line is, use two seats, pay for two seats. hell, paint two lines on the wall..if your body can't fit between them, two seats..simple to the point.
Oh, and BTW DS,this isn't 1950, your
argument about "over nannying society"
and smoking...given what we know know??.
Jun 20th, 2002, 11:05 PM
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This is just a ploy by the airlines to get ALL of us to buy two seats. After all, they've cut the size of the seats down to about 12 inches wide these days, so don't we all qualify!

They've finally found a way to have a 50 percent off sale yet still make us all pay full price!
Jun 21st, 2002, 01:36 AM
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That is a good point. How many of us (regardless of how big/skinny you are) really feel comfortable in most airline seats? If you aren't flying on a jumbo jet and sitting in first/business class then you are sitting in a sardine can like SW Air or other airlines. How about when you are 5'3 (around my height) and your knees touch the seat in front of you? Argue all you want about overweight people but how about demanding less occupancy and more room from the airlines?
Jun 21st, 2002, 03:37 AM
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i guess a lot of ppl don't realize that this policy has actually been in place with some airlines for some time. but its usually only used when the flight is full. and hell yes, fat ppl that take up 2 seats should pay for 2. here's the question tho....you think that this will catch on other places too? maybe fat ppl will have to pay double at the movie theater now too.
Jun 21st, 2002, 05:24 AM
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Great take on this:

Jun 21st, 2002, 08:31 AM
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Had a laugh the other day when a local talk radio schlock jock spent an hour talking about SWA and ragging on fat folks for not having self-control, then taking calls from morons who wanted to tax fat people extra for using more air or whatever.

He then broke away to run one of his pre-recorded adverts, the one for a well-known bratwurst company. They're so good people will come from miles around to have another "brat." Send in your "brat" recipes. Buy "brats." Yum.

Now back to the phones...Clem in Dogpatch has a funny fat joke....Clem?
Jun 21st, 2002, 09:09 AM
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In this particular case, I think that it is the exact opposite of over-nannying.

Over-nannying would be to change seats in airplanes to fit fat people. This would come at a cost, because there will be less seats in the plane. Who is going to pay for this? The airlines? No way! Everyone that flies will!

Now, I know that there will be people thinking "but that's a good thing, I will gladly pay for larger seats". Yeah, right. Just like many people would "gladly accept more stringent security measures and arrive at the airport 3 hours before flight time".

Right after NYC it seemed like a reasonable thing to do. Now, almost everyone I know bitches about it, because it made air travel less convenient.

You use the space, you pay for it. It is that simple.
Jun 21st, 2002, 10:41 AM
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So what happens if the flight is full and the only two seats left are 13A and 25F? Do the just lob of the extra fat and sit it on the other side of the plane? Of course, with Southwest this doesn't matter, you just to make sure you get your boarding card at the same time for both seats or else you will have to stand half in and half out of the jetway waiting for them to call the next group.
Jun 21st, 2002, 10:48 AM
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Usually the cabin attendants will ask the other passengers if they wouldn't mind changing seats to get the 2 empty seats together. There's almost never a problem.
Jun 21st, 2002, 02:23 PM
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Has it ever occored to any of you that some of these 727 and 737 airplanes are 30 years old and we all fit into them when they were new?

Airlines can't make the airplane itself wider; only the manufacturer can.
Jun 21st, 2002, 03:00 PM
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Wife & I are both very trim, ok, skinny- 230# total. Can we fly 2 for 1 if we don't "overflow"?? We never accept snacks/meals anyway, so no extra demands there.

Now for the hard love. Southwest charges, really, BUS fare fees compared to other airlines. In face, for distance traveled, SWA charges less than most subways. What do all you crybabies do in a crowded bus or subway when you (oh-my-god) TOUCH!!!! ???
Hey, you want a perfect travel experience, drive or charter a flight. When you use mass transit, you get contact with the masses! Yup, a tough pill to swallow, but ask the attendent real nice, and she'll bring a second water to wash it down with.
Jun 21st, 2002, 03:17 PM
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I am appalled at Southwest's new/old policy! I can't help feeling that the airlines are trying to recoup losses they incurred after 9/11 on the backs of overweight people and the rest of us as well. They have instituted new/stupid security measures that don't even target the people they are supposed to target, and now they choose to pick on a group that they know won't fight back because they are made to feel ashamed of their bad eating habits!!! If more than sixty percent of the people in the USA have some sort of weight problem, a problem that is getting worse, not better, than that means that we all know someone...maybe a parent, sister, brother, son, or other relative that is going to be taken advantage of in this new policy....no one should allow it!!! I won't fly Southwest again!
They and other airlines should know that their seats have never been comfortable for me, and I am not over weight, so how could they be comfortable for anyone else?

Jun 21st, 2002, 04:08 PM
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sm...pretty funny editorial , Texas dude.
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