SW Air to Hawaii?
 

I'd appreciate comments on anyone who has flown SW Airlines to Hawaii? I understand that the leg from LAX to Hawaii is on "ATA". Is that AirTran? Is their style the same as SWA? Is the flight on SWA/ATA dreadful, given the lack of amenities.

I feel that the economy seats on most other airlines are more cramped than the seats on SWA, but still curious about particular comments anyone might give.

Thanks.

These days, most US carriers are pretty similar. Southwest to Hawaii may not be my first choice but it won't be "dreadful." Besides, which amenities are you speaking of? Southwest still offers pillows, blankets, snacks, etc. Just no meals.

The Hawaii portion of the trip will be on ATA, American Trans Air. NOT the same as AirTran.

It all depends on what you think you can stand in return for a, hopefully, significantly cheaper fare. If you want to pay more for amenities then go ahead.

ATA Airlines has a codeshare agreement with Southwest Airlines, but they are essentially two different airlines. ATA, for one thing, flies Boeing 757s (long single-aisle planes) between certain cities, while Southwest flies 737s exclusively.

ATA's seat pitch looks very tight, so don't look for exceptional legroom. They offer meals for purchase on many LAX-HNL flights. I've heard nothing particularly negative about ATA's service, so if you can be a bit cramped for the long flight, you'll probably do just fine.

I'm not sure when this trip is but Hawaiian Air has been showing real cheap flights lately ($350 nonstop Seattle Honolulu for travel in January). If you haven't already, I'd really look around before committing to a flight, is my point.

I don't know where you are flying from, but I would check the Hawaiian Airlines website if they serve your city. I was surprised that their direct fares were considerably cheaper there vs. on Orbitz, for example. I just checked again: you can still get my fare for this coming week for $290 R/T (if you join the Hawaiian FF program you save $10 R/T, $10 off of $300 - free to join) vs $410 on Orbitz. In my case it's a direct flight, certainly not worth saving a few bucks to connect anywhere for that price.

I've flown ATA to Hawaii before and it is fine for what it is: a cattle car. I'm considering flying their new Oak - Lihue route. $463 for a non-stop is VERY attractive. They are using 737s for that route, which should be interesting. Bring your own blanket, pillow, food etc, etc, etc...

-Bill

We just did this (Oakland to Hilo). The bulkhead seats were fine for us. They do assign seats, unlike Southwest. They don't feed you, but you can purchase snacks (credit card only, though). You should bring plenty to munch on...or buy something after you pass through security. We got a great rate for a non-stop flight, so it worked for us. We got to watch two movies on the way over, so that killed a lot of time - only one on the return flight. The movie was really hard to see in bulkhead, or from any seats that were too close to a screen (although the kids didn't complain too much). It's a better idea to bring your own DVD player. I guess it depends on what you're used to. Just take it for the cheap flight that it is, and enjoy spending that extra money in Hawaii when you get there!

Thanks for the info. I ask because I have 2 free tickets on SWA and, as they fly to Hawaii (via ATA at the moment) I thought I'd investigate.

I actually am pretty adverse to being in a "cattle car" for 5-6 hours. Not sure of time on the LAX-Hawaii leg. I'd be flying Houston to LAX for the first leg.

I must also disclose that my neighbor is a flight attendant for ATA, although she only works their charter services (and curiously has OAK as her homebase instead of LAX). FAs are usually great inside sources for industry news that might affect service (contract disputes etc.)-- and she's never had any complaints. The flight will most likely be cramped but the FAs will be pleasant. A small comfort, but....

I was told by customer service SWA that I would have to use BOTH of my rapid rewards "free' round-trips for me to go from Oakland to Hawaii and rerurn to Oakland.. I know it sounds weird but she kept insisting!!!
Better check this out..

That is correct, traveler24.

I, too, was going to use my free rountrips/rapid rewards ticket for us to fly to Hawaii and it takes 4 coupons for one round-trip instead of the normal 2 coupon/voucher for one r/t flight. You can still use the 2 coupons for one way and pay for the other. That saves a little $$.

Yep. It "costs" twice as much in SWA rapid rewards to fly to Hawaiion ATA.

We had vouchers to use, too, but we actually couldn't use them since the flight is operated by ATA. The vouchers we received were from giving up our seats on an overbooked flight. The rate was so good, we decided to book it anyway and ended up using the vouchers to fly other family members home for the Christmas season instead.

I have a Companion Pass (I fly free whenever DH flies SW)

Will that work to fly to Hawaii?

We flew ATA to Maui from Phoenix last December, and it was just fine (we booked through Travelocity). We don't expect much these days from airlines (given the nickel-and-diming they do to you for every little thing). But, hey, it got us there safely; we didn't receive bad service at all; and we'd fly them again to go to Maui anytime. Hard to beat SWA on any given day, though.

A friend told me the other day she found tix for Houston to Honolulu for $199 one way.

I just checked expedia and round trip from Houston is about $464. Must be a slow time in Hawaii - if there is such a thing?

i don't know about slow, but tickets are cheap right now. ~$350 RT from Seattle for instance.

Holly: What time did you arrive in Hilo?

We have taken ATA from SFO to Honolulu, the flight was ok, but ...... flight was 4 hours late getting thru east coast blizzards and as soon as we boarded a small fire started out in the luggage compartment resulting in another 2 hours delay. I was almost DOA at midnight. They gave us free vouchers.

wsoxrebel - Did you find out if the SWA Companion Pass is good to fly to Hawaii? I have one as well, and we were thinking about going to Hawaii next summer.

suze,

You going?

-pila

kcapuani, I guess we just call CP? I sure hope it will work.

Shanghainese - We got in at just after 11PM. That would be pretty hard if you're coming from the East coast. You have to look around a bit to find a place to stay that first night in such a sleepy little town. Most don't stay open that late. We stayed at a bed and breakfast that didn't mind us coming in extra late.

Billy,

Slap me if I am wrong, but I don't think 737's are certified by the feds for flights to Hawaii.
((D))8-)

ATA and Aloha (if not others) use 737s between Hawaii and the mainland.

Color me slapped.........

Now I know why I only fly Hawaiian Air to the islands.
((D))8-)

jamal,

You look good in slap!

Yes, these 737-800s are looonger and carry more fuel than the 737s of yore. They actually hold almost as many passengers as a 757!

-Bill

Thanks, Holly, we are staying at the Bay House for 3 nights, (Arts & Orchids is full), still trying to figure out if we want to stay at Hilo Hawaiian for the rest of the 2 nights, wish it was the other way around.

Flying into Honolulu but need to take interisland flight to Kauai. ATA does not have a direct flight on the day I am flying. Can I check luggage all the way through or do I need to pick up & recheck in. Trying to decide on time of interisland flight & which airline might be best for luggage checkthrough. Any ideas? Mahalo

I think you should be able to check your bags all the way through to final destination, Bons. This past October, we flew from ABQ to HNL on AA and then onto Maui and are bags went all the way to MAui without us touching them.

Be sure you have enough connection time in HNL for bags to get on interisland flight.

Hope this helps...
Debi

Bons - I may be misreading your post, but if you're flying ATA to HNL and then taking another airline to Kauai, check to make sure ATA has an interline agreement with the other airline. SW does NOT, which would mean you'd have to claim and recheck your bags. Since ATA is part of SW, they may not either, but I'm not sure of that.

Debi - I was wondering if you were able to check through since AA does have interline agreements. Just a thought.

d -good point, not sure. We flew on Aloha from HNL to OGG and did run into some schedule issues with changes arrival times due to AA flight changes. As I booked all 3 interisland flights myself, AA didn't want to absorb the cost for changing departure time. Got it taken care of, but not without a few calls.

Bons, call airline and ask.

I called ATA, which I avoided doing before posting because i knew I would get a faster reply here, but they amazed me. Picked up on first ring after getting through the voicemail selections! They do have an agreement with both Aloha & IFly Go, which were the 2 flights I was interested in. Since I don't have to claim bags, is 1hr enough time to make interisland flight?

Personally 1 hour is calling it a bit close. You have 2 flights before hand and it each one is a bit delayed...

Aloha has lots of flights, try for one with a bit more time inbetween would be my suggestion. I hate to worry about missing connection or having bags not make next flight IMHO

I was afraid of that, & the next flight gets me into Kauai later than I want. So, I switched flight to the day before, direct flight arriving 8:30pm. Now I need a hotel for 1 night before shopping & heading to condo in Princeville. Any suggestion? I will do a separate post, but thought you might have an idea. Mahalo!

Bons,
I suggest you start a new thread asking about where to stay for the night. I haven't been to Kauai sorry, I' no help on that but many on here have been and will be able to provide suggestions.
Debi

Thanks Debi, I already did. I appreciate your suggestions about the flight. It convinced me to go a day earlier and fly direct. You can't go wrong with a few extra hours in paradise!