??? "second"level rooms
 

We receently stayed in the Hyatt Grand in NYC
on "convention" rates.

The room was very basic - small no coffee maker or 'fridge. The bathroom was tiny - we have had bigger bathrooms on river cruise boats.







We stayed an extra day and paid AAA price.

There were many goups, so I guess that they cater to groups. but there other people who didn't seem like the sort that would tolerate our "basic" room.

For the racord we have traveled with many tour companies and that room would have been unacceptable on one of these tours.

What I'm asking is: Do they have second class rooms for tours???

When we were younger and broke that room would have been fine, at the rates we cold afford then.

No. Very tiny hotel rooms are industry standard in Manhattan.

A fridge in the room is a rarity for a standard hotel room in Manhattan.

If you want a larger room, be specific with the reservationist. Call and talk to someone about your concerns.

Also, avoid The Hudson, The Park South, Milford Plaza and there are a few more.

I've stayed at the Grand Hyatt and while it was very small, I've stayed in smaller rooms in New York.

Real estate and all other costs in NYC are very high - much higher than almost anywhere else in the country. And we have been mobbed with tourists - both US and foreign (something to do with the low value of the dollar) for the past 2 years - meaning hotls routinely sell out without resorting to discounts.

In Manhattan - depending on the time of year - an average - not luxury in any way - room costs $300. That includes a small room, a small bath and no extras. If you want more - you need to pay more.

I agree that I would not be happy in such a room - but then I would pay more to get a bigger room or a better hotel.

(Also- FYI, convention rates are often no lower than regular ones - if the hotel knows it is going to be full.)

I will chime in that convention rates can often be higher because the guest pays for the luxury of having blocks of rooms 'held' or 'reserved' for them.

And many hotels, especially in high-end hotels, don't have coffee-makers.

I'm not at all surprised by the size of the room and no fridge. SOP in that city, but I am <i>very</i> surprised that there was no coffee maker. I don't know that I've ever stayed in a Hyatt (and I've stayed in a <i>lot</i> of them, including that one :) ), that didn't have a coffee pot. I wonder if that was a mistake?? After complaints and worries about coffee pots being clean, many have gone to single shot coffee pots that make it into one throw away cup, which I absolutely hate, but they had nothing at all??

Malsherbes, I've stayed at the Grand Hyatt at Grand Central at least once and I don't remember a coffee maker.

I just checked the website and it doesn't list a coffee maker as an in room amenity but does list 4 people max occupancy to a room and windows that open.

And I honestly don't remember GoT...except that I've gotta have my coffee in the morning and don't recall having a fit of any sort...although we were probably on Regency Club level, so could have walked to that if it wasn't in the room. (Except that I need it RIGHT NOW, and not when I get presentable. :) ) It was ages ago though, so I just don't remember.

Sorry, our notes crossed, GT. I just looked too and saw no mention of a coffee maker at any level room, including Regency Club and the suites. (I like their new decor though!) Checked our current hotel as well as the last one to make sure they were listed if present, and in both cases they were, so I'd say, no, no mistake. They just don't have them. Now how cheap can you get!! LOL

Yes, the Regency Club!

I too need my coffee in the morning but don't want to frighten anyone walking the streets of NYC in my fuzzy slippers and bathrobe!