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illininutt Jul 22nd, 2018 06:48 PM

Seattle to Canada Rockies trip???
 
Just starting to plan. Have free miles with Southwest so I'll be flying into Seattle. Will rent a car and drive to the Canada Rockies for about 10 days.Would like tip on routes from anyone who has made the trip. Is there a "best" month to go or "worst" month to go.

sludick Jul 23rd, 2018 04:06 AM

We personally prefer September. Also, we like to fly into Spokane on Southwest for our trips to the Canadian Rockies. There are limited flights compared to Seattle, sure, but it's a good option. Easy airport to get in/out.

schmerl Jul 23rd, 2018 04:35 AM

We traveled through the Canadian Rockies in August and the weather was perfect.

Gardyloo Jul 23rd, 2018 05:34 AM

Unless you want to spend time in Seattle (and with 10 days you might not have enough time) the idea of flying into/out of Spokane is a good one. You can reach Banff easily in a day from Spokane vs. 1 1/2 or even 2 days from Seattle.

The key to visiting Banff/Jasper is to get accommodation booked as soon as you can. August is great, but you're likely to find things pretty booked up; I'd agree that September - even getting into the autumn (which comes early) in the Rockies is also terrific.

I'd recommend a look that includes the Kootenays in one direction. Nelson BC is very picturesque, and traveling through the Kootenays is a superb experience. Map - https://goo.gl/maps/Fy4cmWi26Tm (do the loop in either direction.)

suze Jul 23rd, 2018 09:42 AM

I'm here in Seattle. And I agree about not including it for the plans you outline. Even if you have to fly into SeaTac for some reason, you can catch a commuter 1-hour flight over to Spokane to start your road trip.

sludick Jul 23rd, 2018 10:23 AM

As our flight from Orlando tends to arrive into Spokane late evening (11-11:30p), we also like to stay at the Ramada just across the street. It's a very quick and easy walk, even with luggage, maybe a minute or two. Then in the morning, walk back across and pick up your rental car. Couldn't be more convenient.

illininutt Jul 23rd, 2018 07:18 PM

How is this: Spokane to Banff...Lake Louise...Icefield Parkway...Kamloops...Spokane

melproffit Jul 24th, 2018 08:02 AM

When are you planning this trip for? 2019 I hope. If trying for this year, you will have a difficult time finding any lodging throughout the Canadian Rockies and if found be prepared to pay. Also, regardless of timing, you need to really research what is open and closed-roads, trails, sites. parking etc. That will be the deciding factor for what you can see and consequentally where you should find lodging. And be prepared for any driving time in the National Par area's to be probably double what you expect.
I wholeheartedly suggest popping into a different set of forums (BC/Alberta/Canadian Rockies) on a site that begin with a T and check out all recent-and there are many!-posts regarding this type of trip. Having done this trip from Seattle over 17 days last year I know what it takes to be successful and it takes time and much planning. Not an easy do on short notice.

Gardyloo Jul 24th, 2018 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by illininutt (Post 16766994)
How is this: Spokane to Banff...Lake Louise...Icefield Parkway...Kamloops...Spokane

Not sure how Kamloops got there, but okay. I still would heartily suggest looking at Spokane - Banff - Lake Louise - Icefield - Revelstoke - Nelson - Spokane instead. The ride along BC 23/BC 6 between Revelstoke and Nelson is terrific, and the drive through (funky) Metaline Falls back to Spokane is really nice, too. (See the map in post no. 4 above.)

illininutt Jul 25th, 2018 03:03 AM

I'm looking for places to stay for next year on a couple sites. Could not find a Holiday Inn/Days Inn/Comfort Inn.....nothing I ever heard of before. Am I going "across the border"...or Russia?

sludick Jul 25th, 2018 07:26 AM

You are traveling through largely wilderness areas, keep in mind. You'll run into the same lack of chain places here in the U.S. What locations are you looking at for stopping, we can perhaps help that way. But expect independents unless you come into a more populous area. Don't expect chain places in the National Parks.

In general, Best Westerns are pretty common. I've stayed in Ramada, Holiday Inn Express, Coast, and various others.

Also, I hope you didn't mean that comment as sarcastically as it seemed to me. :smirk:

illininutt Jul 25th, 2018 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Gardyloo (Post 16767260)
Not sure how Kamloops got there, but okay. I still would heartily suggest looking at Spokane - Banff - Lake Louise - Icefield - Revelstoke - Nelson - Spokane instead. The ride along BC 23/BC 6 between Revelstoke and Nelson is terrific, and the drive through (funky) Metaline Falls back to Spokane is really nice, too. (See the map in post no. 4 above.)

Thanks a ton!! I have now added Revelstroke and Nelson to my trip and crossed off Kamloops. 937 miles and 18:49 hours of 6 1/2 hours driving to first stop of Lake Louise.

sludick Jul 26th, 2018 04:30 AM

A great place to stay in Nelson is the Hume Hotel. It's a historic property that has been refurbished but still retains many original architectural elements. The food at the Library Lounge restaurant is very good. Hume Hotel - Nelson Hotel, Accommodations in Nelson BC

Going south from Revelstoke towards Nelson, you'll be treated to a free car ferry ride across Upper Arrow Lake. Just drive until the road ends, then wait for the ferry. I didn't tell my husband about it in advance the first time we made that trip - the expression on his face was priceless when the road just came to an end in the seeming middle of nowhere. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...row-lake-ferry

Gardyloo Jul 26th, 2018 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by sludick (Post 16768279)
Going south from Revelstoke towards Nelson, you'll be treated to a free car ferry ride across Upper Arrow Lake. Just drive until the road ends, then wait for the ferry. I didn't tell my husband about it in advance the first time we made that trip - the expression on his face was priceless when the road just came to an end in the seeming middle of nowhere. https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...row-lake-ferry

In addition to the free ferry (you're in the Columbia River headwaters, by the way) there are some interesting towns along that route, including picturesque New Denver, with its moving memorial park on the site of one of the Canadian Japanese internment camps from WWII.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fod...ee948aed06.jpg

Not far away is the ghost town of Sandon, where in addition to some old "ghost town-y" buildings, for some reason a whole bunch of old city buses from Vancouver have ended up (go figure) adding their own rather melancholy look to the (incredibly scenic) place.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fod...c97112a1c2.jpg

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fod...31ef592b63.jpg

illininutt Jul 26th, 2018 06:39 PM

I'm booking a year ahead. Looked on several sites and the hotel cost is almost unbelievable!! I thought San Francisco was high in the middle 90's but the Canada Rockies area is UNREAL. I'm a single guy traveling alone and some of the places to stay are $300/$400 even $500 not for the week....BUT FOR ONE NIGHT! Canada Rockies are now off my list.....no way a Senior on SS can afford it. Thanks for all that helped. I've been to Toronto/Niagra Falls and that was not bad....no way I could afford this trip. For next year I now have set my sights on Smokie Mountains.

melproffit Jul 27th, 2018 07:46 AM

your choices for where to look may be skewing your results. a lot of places in the area are not included in many of the big web accommodation sites. also, if the cost is posted in Canadian Dollars it will look higher than it will turn out to be. if you really wan to do this area, post your desired budget per night here and folks can pass along options. i would not give up quite yet.

sludick Jul 27th, 2018 10:07 AM

Agree with melproffit. For Banff, look for lodging in Canmore, about 20 minutes from the park entrance. In Jasper, look for private home accommodations at www.stayinjasper.com. You should also look into the hostels in Jasper and Banff. HI Jasper | Book Direct for Best Rate

illininutt Jul 27th, 2018 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by sludick (Post 16768980)
Agree with melproffit. For Banff, look for lodging in Canmore, about 20 minutes from the park entrance. In Jasper, look for private home accommodations at www.stayinjasper.com. You should also look into the hostels in Jasper and Banff. HI Jasper Book Direct for Best Rate

No private homes and NO WAY I'd stay in a hostels (unless you mis-spelled hotel.) The higher the cost....the less days I can afford for trip. I never get under the covers in ANY hotel. When I get off the plane I look for a Walmart. Get 2 blankets (one to put on top of bed....one for over me) and one pillow for my trip. I can NEVER take a bath/shower in a strange bathroom...no matter how long the trip. I'd go $150 per night (maybe $175)....would like 7 days if the cost is lower. Help is needed. I've been to Yellowstone/Grand Canyon/LV/Nashville/Toronto the past few years....no problem with cost.

Gardyloo Jul 27th, 2018 03:14 PM

Booking a year ahead is probably an issue. Increasingly hotels are mimicking the airlines with "revenue management" algorithms. The farther out you book, the more they're likely to hedge against their internal costs spiking in the meantime. I'd be booking summer hotel space sometime this autumn or winter rather than looking a full year ahead.

However I think your budget targets for this region at peak travel periods are rather unrealistic.

illininutt Jul 27th, 2018 08:58 PM

Unreallistic? Really your saying to expensive. I never knew Canada was sooooooo expensive. I went to Niagra Falls on the Canada side and did great on price. Same as Toronto. I can get on Ebay and get Gatlinburg lodging (Smokies) for $75 a night for timeshare rental. Rockies in Colorado were great prices.

thursdaysd Jul 28th, 2018 04:15 AM


I never get under the covers in ANY hotel. When I get off the plane I look for a Walmart. Get 2 blankets (one to put on top of bed....one for over me) and one pillow for my trip. I can NEVER take a bath/shower in a strange bathroom
You're joking, right? You would spend a day sightseeing in heat and humidity and not shower??? Sorry for the people around you.

No reason to pass up B&Bs, especially if you are on a budget. I'm not suggesting AirBnB type places, but proper B&Bs that are taxed and inspected. I stayed here in Jasper and it was fine:

A little log House

illininutt Jul 28th, 2018 05:11 AM

I have always wanted to talk to my Dr. about my "problem" but never brought it up. I never think and hotel shower is clean enough for me so I never shower on the road. I never think a bed on the road is clean enough for me so bring my own bedding. I could never use the hotel room silverware or drink from their glasses. I could never use their microwave because I think it's too dirty. I only take a trip once a year....so it only happens once a year.

melproffit Jul 28th, 2018 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by illininutt (Post 16769119)
No private homes and NO WAY I'd stay in a hostels (unless you mis-spelled hotel.) The higher the cost....the less days I can afford for trip. I never get under the covers in ANY hotel. When I get off the plane I look for a Walmart. Get 2 blankets (one to put on top of bed....one for over me) and one pillow for my trip. I can NEVER take a bath/shower in a strange bathroom...no matter how long the trip. I'd go $150 per night (maybe $175)....would like 7 days if the cost is lower. Help is needed. I've been to Yellowstone/Grand Canyon/LV/Nashville/Toronto the past few years....no problem with cost.

I'm sorry but I have to respond to this. So you say you have traveled some but you never get under any covers, waste money-that could go to your stay costs-on blankets, and never use shower/bath? And you rule out certain lower cost stay options due to these "needs"? That seems absolutely positively unnecessary. Have you had bad experiences with hotel beds? I have traveled to 27 countries and 30 states and can say without reservation that no bed, bathroom, or shower has ever disappointed me or made me sick to the point of even complaining let alone feeling the need to take such extreme measures when traveling. Any hotel, chain or otherwise, worth it's salt couldn't survive if people suffered consistent problems based on their accommodations. Your post reads like you should not consider any future travel.
That being said, I will check my notes from my 2017 trip to see if I can offer any possible stays in your price range. But gardyloo is right, timing is everything in regards to what prices you will find. Things change. If too expensive now, check back in 3-4 months.

thursdaysd Jul 28th, 2018 06:46 AM

I am up to over 70 countries, and I have encountered only a handful of hotel rooms that were really gross, but none of them were in the US or Canada. One in Aleppo, which I abandoned, one in Palermo which I tolerated for one night and one on Lombok in Indonesia. Considerably more rooms had inconveniences, and there was one in Madurai, India and one In Casablanca where I slept in the silk sleep sack I carry for night trains instead of directly on the sheets. None of them made me ill. (Actually, the sleep sack would be a good substitute for buying bedding, it's very light and takes up little room, see https://www.allergybuyersclub.com/dr...eep-sacks.html )

If this is a real phobia then it would surely be worth discussing it with your doctor. There are psychological techniques for dealing with phobias.

melproffit Jul 28th, 2018 08:11 AM

amen on the sleep sack idea! Brilliant! then you'll always know how clean it is. this being a driving trip having any kind of your own bedding will be much easier.

Nelson Jul 28th, 2018 08:26 AM

There is no reason to doubt that illininutt is thinking of this trip or that he has extreme hotel bathroom phobia. (Some degree of hotel bathroom phobia is healthy, IMHO).

But he is a self-proclaimed troll:


Originally Posted by illininutt (Post 16694761)
It's not the end of the world. I would not take advice from a stranger anyway. Just seeing how many responses I can get.

https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...-city-1650168/

thursdaysd Jul 28th, 2018 08:44 AM


Some degree of hotel bathroom phobia is healthy, IMHO).
Agreed. I rarely take a bath in one but I see no reason to forego showers. I have been getting a distinctly trollish vibe...

janisj Jul 28th, 2018 09:12 AM

The OP is making everything up -- all the phobias,etc. He is a total troll and has done this countless times before.

illininutt Jul 28th, 2018 07:48 PM

I can not get under the covers in ANY hotel. It is a problem I have had for years. This also includes the Luxor in LV. I need help from a Dr. but since it only happens once a year I never bothered. The last hotel before my trip back home is always the most expensive. I think the more it cost the cleaner it will be. That logic does allow me to shower the morning of my plane trip home.

illininutt Jul 29th, 2018 07:56 PM

I have found some places outside the Rockies. Golden/Hinton/Canmore/Valemount/Dunster. Would even consider a B&B if nothing else is available. Some of the hotels don't accept booking more than 1 year ahead.

suze Aug 1st, 2018 11:54 AM

I could never use the hotel room silverware or drink from their glasses.

You don't ever eat in restaurants?

illininutt Aug 2nd, 2018 02:55 AM

I go to a resturant ONE time a year.....Vets Day. They places are sooooooo crowed on those days that they not let you take out. Denneys/Subway/Texas Roadhouse/Ed's Pizza/Applebee's....I'm set for the day and following weekend! I have no teeth and seldom eat in front of strangers. As a single person....a lot of my meals are ate in the car.

janisj Aug 2nd, 2018 07:14 AM

>>I go to a resturant ONE time a year.....Vets Day. They places are sooooooo crowed on those days that they not let you take out. Denneys/Subway/Texas Roadhouse/Ed's Pizza/Applebee's....I'm set for the day and following weekend! I have no teeth and seldom eat in front of strangers. As a single person....a lot of my meals are ate in the car.<<

Now will anyone believe he is a troll?

sf7307 Aug 2nd, 2018 07:26 AM

janis, I didn't need more to convince me, but that one takes the cake!!

Nelson Aug 2nd, 2018 10:20 AM

He may be a troll but pretty sure I saw him in Denneys [sic] last time I was there.

illininutt Aug 3rd, 2018 06:30 AM

I go to Denny's one time a year.....Vets Day. Usually the one in Orland Park, Il. Get the Grand Slam and a milk for free! That resturant I eat-in. Get there before 5 am. Unlike Donnie or his 2 sons or son-in-law....at least in went in the military (06/68-06/70.)

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