SD to LA with kids
 

I rarely post to boards, but after reading some helpful advice in this forum I am interested in opinions on an upcoming California vacation with my wife and 3 boys (a sophomore and 2 elementary age). We fly into San Diego on a Monday night. On Thursday night we have Dodger tickets. I'm seeking advice on the best use of the time in between. Below are some guidelines/questions (in no particular order). FYI, we are a budget family. Tend to take advantage of what's free. We enjoy the outdoors. Don't mind spending money to save time. I'll splurge on accommodations to stay in a convenient location. But we do not do a lot of high-priced paid admission events unless they are truly not-to-be-missed. An exception would be the San Diego zoo. One of the boys is a big-time animal lover. But I'm assuming we don't have time for the zoo during such a short visit. T/F?

San Diego
(1) We are beach focused during this part of the trip. Both in SD and on the coastal drive north.
(2) It's our first time to SD. Wish we had more time, but it is what it is. Aiming for quality fun time over quantity of sights seen.
(3) In SD I'm considering staying at one of the airport hotels around Harbor Island. I've found a few to our liking and in our budget. It would be nice to get to the room quickly, stay in the same place 2 nights, and not rent a car until the day we drive to LA. Is this a good plan? Can we make a good day of it on Tuesday without a car? I know little about SD public transit. If this is not a good plan I'm open to other lodging recommendations.
(4) Where to go with the family in the evening, returning at night? Is Old Town San Diego a safe area?
(5) We'd love some good restaurant recommendations. We all like "Mexican" food.

Los Angeles
(1) It's also our first time in LA, but to be honest we wouldn't be going if not for the Dodgers game. Chavez Ravine is on my bucket list. Otherwise, we'd spend our time elsewhere. I'm sure some of you love LA. Feel free to change our minds. You all know CA. But I know my family and we are more likely to enjoy SD or the drive in between better than LA.
(2) Some exceptions to #3 would be Santa Monica Pier, Griffith Park/observatory, Hollywood Farmers Market. Those appeal to us. Any thoughts?
(3) Wednesday night we need lodging recommendations. Potentially anywhere from Dana Point to Hollywood (see below).
(4) As the Dodger game is a trip highlight we plan to arrive 2 hours early for batting practice. What's a good use of Thursday AM?
(5) We are looking for lodging Thursday night, after the Dodger game. Obviously, it must be as convenient as possible for after the game. We are NOT leaving the game in the 7th inning to beat traffic. We will be staying after the game for fireworks and leaving late. Burbank was recommended to us. This would be convenient to visit Griffith Park on Thursday morning. Also, Thursday afternoon we are heading out of town (north). Is Burbank a good option for after the game? How would we get there from Chavez Ravine without a car?
Lodging Thursday night is probably the item on this whole list where we need the most assistance. If you were leaving Chavez Ravine after 10/11 pm with 3 children where would you feel safe taking public transportation to get your kids to bed as soon as possible without spending $300 a night?

Thanks for any *constructive* advice anyone is willing to offer. Please consider that the flight into San Diego Monday night and the Dodger game Thursday night are both fixed events. We are not changing them. So I appreciate you kindly restraining from pointing out that X number of days is not near enough time to see all of such-and-such place. :<) We are aware of that.

It's not clear to me if you'll have a car during all of your time in L.A. or what day you're leaving. Without that info, it's nearly impossible to give useful advice for the L.A. part of your trip. FYI, trying to get around without a car would probably cost you more overall than keeping the car. I don't think you have enough time (but can't really tell) to use only public transportation to reach the places you mention, and Uber/Lyft fares would add up.

But a few comments about the Dodger game: I'm glad you want to arrive early because traffic getting into the stadium will be extremely heavy. Unless you're flying out of Burbank, heading there after the game would be illogical, and I'm not sure how you would get there without a car anyway. Burbank is far from LAX and has few public transportation options. There is free shuttle service to the stadium on game days from Union Station in DTLA and from the South Bay area (with a few stops). Parking at the stadium is $17. There is a cheaper remote parking lot within walking distance, but I personally wouldn't consider that for a night game. You can bring food and water into the stadium with some restrictions. You should peruse the Dodger website for all stadium info.

Because you mention fireworks after the Dodger game, I'm assuming this is the Thursday, July 4th game...? If so, finding budget-range lodging anywhere could be a challenge, and you should work on this ASAP.

There is a Farmers Market in Santa Monica on Wednesdays from 8am-1pm with only Certified growers, if you are thinking of the Original Farmers Market next to the Grove, there is not much produce it is mostly restaurants there these days.
How old are the two youngest? If under age 8 they will need car seats or booster seats and neither Uber, Lyft or taxis will provide them, restricting you to using only Metro buses and trains where they exist. You can take the Dodger Express to the baseball game and the Dash bus to Griffith Observatory (parking is a mess there) but I strongly suggest renting a car for the day to visit Santa Monica. Might want to also visit Malibu (terrible public transport) the same day as SaMo.

Sand Diego and Drive up to LA, 2 days
 

Can some of you help me plan the best use of 2 days in San Diego and the coast up to LA. We are flying in on a Monday. We need to be in LA no later than Thursday at noon, but I'd really prefer to drive up Wednesday at some point and finish the day at Santa Monica. Here are some guidelines.
(1) We want some time on a good, kid-friendly beach in SD and also want to make a good beach stop or 2 (or 3) on the coastal drive north.
(2) It's our first time to SD. Wish we had more time, but it is what it is. Aiming for a quality fun time over quantity of sights seen.
(3) Would prefer to say the same place Monday and Tuesday night, preferably close to the airport as we arrive late Monday night.
(4) I've already gotten some good info about Old Town San Diego, but would love opinions on that.
(5) We'd love some good restaurant recommendations. We all like "Mexican" food.
(6) Recommendations on good stops as we drive north. As well as best time to plan our entry into LA so as to catch the least-worst traffic.
(7) I'm interested in any lodging recommendations on Wedesday night "near" LA. Again, we'd like to finish the day in Santa Monica, but we are flexible on that.
Thanks for your advice.

Thanks, everyone! Already some great feedback. I see now that I'm asking a lot in one thread. I've split the thread in order to focus on my 2 main questions.
Lodging recommendations for a family of 5 after a Dodgers nite game?
Advice for 2 days in San Diego and driving up to LA area.

If you have more advice on those it might be best to use those forums to keep the discussions more focused. Thanks again for your help!

We'll have the car the entire time in LA. I am just insecure about using. I've heard horror stories about the LA traffic.
Thanks for all of your comments. You have offered some good advice.
We have been working on getting our lodging. It's a priority. I am just totally confused about where to stay after the game. That's where I really need some advice.

Good point. None of our 3 require child restraint seats in CA.

Pagngo, thank you. This is exactly the kind of advice I need to San Diego! So do you think Harbor Island would be a good place to stay? The airport Sheraton has accommodations in our budget. It would be great on Monday night when we arrive. Seems convenient enough to the other things you mentioned.

Why did you start a new thread?? I'd ask the moderators to delete this one . . .

>>I've split the thread in order to focus on my 2 main questions.<<


Just saw this post. It makes no sense to start competing threads for the same SD/LA trip.

Keep everything on one thread . . .

Thank you, Paqngo. That is quite helpful!

If you'll have a car for the Dodger game and while you're in L.A., you can stay almost anywhere. But, you haven't mentioned a budget, so who knows what's possible.

As for driving in L.A., yes, traffic is horrible for visitors who don't know the ins/out/shortcuts. Unfortunately, traffic in the Santa Monica/Malibu area over the 4-day July 4th weekend will be... hmm, what's a word worse than horrible? If Santa Monica is a must, I would go there by metro or bus; otherwise, you could drive around in circles just looking for a place to park.

>> hmm, what's a word worse than horrible?<< . . . GAWD awful . . .

Some ideas for mid-priced hotels, from my notes. Although I don't really know about the ease of reaching this area from Dodger stadium.
Driving in L.A can be challenging, especially on the freeways. We use WAZE to get around, and we avoid highways whenever possible.
These are hotels I observed while there, for future reference:

Elan Hotel (we stayed here and liked it)
https://www.elanhotel.com
Beverly Center is a few blocks away

Hotel Lexen— no suites, not expensive
Lexen Hotel Hollywood - Los Angeles, Hotels In Hollywood CA, Hotels Near Hollywood, Hotels Near Hollywood CA

Best Western Hollywood Plaza Inn— pretty cheap, king room has sofa bed, has king guest suite, some breakfast rates, looks ok from outside

Best Western Plus Hollywood Hills— mid-mod, looks ok, inexpensive, no suites or breakfast
https://www.tripadvisor.com/HotelsNe...alifornia.html

Hilton Garden Inn, on Highland
http://hiltongardeninn3.hilton.com/e...ons/index.html
Nice outdoor pool and hot tub, looks nice mid-mod, $239 one King, no breakfast, no suites

Holiday Inn Express, on Highland
https://www.ihg.com/holidayinnexpres...fa/hoteldetail
pool, hot breakfast, looks good, very good prices

Hollywood Orchid Suites

BLVD Hotel
https://www.blvdhollywood.com
@ Hollywood & Highland= very busy with tourists
Looks cute, very tiny outdoor pool
BLVD Family Suite— Two Bedrooms. About $371 AARP
“One bedroom has one California King Bed with a 42” TV and wooden dresser and the other bedroom has Two Queen Beds with another 42” TV, closet and full bathroom. This Suite also features a Full Kitchen and dining table. The additional living area has a work desk, another full bathroom, couch and coffee table”
Double queen suites about $259 AARP
Smallest double queen rooms about $185 AARP rate

Why don't you stay in San Diego on Wednesday night? That would give you two full days here and you'd have time for the Zoo and other parts of Balboa Park. Your kids would probably also like the Maritime Museum on the Embarcadero, not far from where you'll be staying on Harbor Island, and the USS MIdway. Weather at the beginning of July is sometimes not very "beachy". I remember some years ago getting to the beach VERY early on the 4th to save space for our group and it was overcast and chilly all day!

Old Town San Diego is perfectly safe and as a major tourist destination, very busy. It's also very interesting. In Old Town, Cafe Coyote has good Mexican food. I also like Casa Gudalajara. Another good Mexican place is Ortega's Bistro in Hillcrest. It is the US location of a Puerto Nuevo restaurant which we used to go to for lobster and margs many, many years ago. Also very good is Rubio's which began in San Diego. We get our Mexican food from there mostly because they're all over and there's one close to us.

SD - Rather than stay on Harbor Island, I'd research accommodations on Mission Bay, lovely to skate/board/bike/walk around, and if at the Catamaran, which I'd recommend for sheer convenience and access to Pacific Beach , which beach is right across the street (PCH 101 but fine to walk across). Lots of pre-teen and teen interests there. Definitely drive to Coronado and park to the north side of the Hotel Del, their beach is amongst the best in the country and it's a historic landmark. Also Pt. Loma think the boys and you would enjoy immensely, it's free as a national monument with tide pools and cliffs and great views of downtown SD as well as the takeoffs/landings of Navy planes from North Island nearby. Boys might enjoy the Midway aircraft carrier on the harbor too. I'd skip Old Town and Seaport Village. Plan a day to drive up the PCH 101 (the shore route) to La Jolla, stop at Seal Beach where you can walk out on the rocks amongst them, kayak at La Jolla Shores, and walk down thru La Jolla Cave (from Coast Blvd) too. Another fun and free outing is Annie's Canyon, hidden just north of Torrey Pines (at north end of La Jolla), a great hiking reserved tucked in tiny Solana Beach, also free, boys would love it. These are all easy day or half-day trips from downtown SD. You can get back down via the 5, but recommend the scenic route at least one-way. Traffic comes south in the morning and north in evening (from 4-6:30) Have made above recommendations considering your budget considerations.

"Seal Beach" is actually the Children's Pool. It hasn't been renamed.

I don't think roads in San Diego are labelled "PCH-101".

Most of the Mission Bay hotels will be more expensive than Harbor Island hotels.

On a weekday you want to be in LA by 3:30-4pm to avoid rush hour traffic. The drive takes 2-3 hours depending on traffic so if you left in the morning and maybe stop for a quick lunch in Laguna Beach or Huntington Beach you will be in the LA area in good time.
Can't help much with San Diego, but for LA you need to provide your budget per night for lodging in USD. Tax is 15% on top of posted rates in LA County.

Seal Beach is just few yards north from Children's Pool. Do pardon me Barbara for the incorrect nomenclature. If they're looking at maps for southern CA they'll see lots of references to Pacific Coast Hwy 101, as well as signage locally. Much more walkable and more to do from Mission Bay than on Harbor Island, just sayin.

As far as a hotel in Los Angeles goes, Glendale would be a good place, since it is fairly close to Dodger Stadium. A little further east would be Pasadena and there are numerous hotels there due to the Rose Bowl location.

If you use the shuttle to Union Station as Jean suggested, you can also take the Metro from there to a station in Pasadena area where you can leave your rental car in the Metro parking lot while you are at the game.

Driving in Los Angeles can be difficult, but downloading Waze is a very good idea. It will take you around accidents and will tell you the route to take as you are driving.

aliced, those are great ideas for family outings.
ltr, that plan for staying in Glendale and taking transit to the game could be a great solution. Assuming they can reverse the plan, late at night after the game the system will be running regularly?

Looks like Wednesday night is still your wild card.
Best options could be staying in San Diego as suggested, or Glendale as ltr describes.
Or go closer to Hollywood as are the hotels I listed.

I think you probably want to minimize the number of hotel moves you make, with 5 people.

The Dodger Stadium Express info is here
https://www.metro.net/riding/dodger-stadium-express/

• Buses run every 10 minutes, starting 90 minutes before game time through the end of the 2nd inning for all home games.
• You can exit at one of two stops – behind Center Field or at the Top Deck. Service back to Union Station will pick up at the same stops after the game.
• Return service ends 45 minutes after the final out or 20 minutes after post-game events.

I wouldn't use the Dodger Express if you're going to book into Glendale though. Just go very early and leave late, and drive. The Hyatt Place in Downtown Glendale gets good reviews and has rooms that can sleep 5 people (which can be an issue in LA).

I agree that the Harbor Island/Liberty Station/Airport Location is fine in San Diego if you want to go to the Zoo and Coronado /Point Loma but I'd rent a car. BTW the Cabrillo National Monument isn't free, unless you already have an annual pass. I guess relative to other things to do in San Diego, it isn't that expensive, though.
https://www.nps.gov/cabr/planyourvisit/basicinfo.htm

Or, if you aren't going to go to the Zoo and just want a beach, you could look up in North County, eg around Del Mar and go to Torrey Pines or one of the North County beaches.

I wouldn't wait too long to book San Diego, it tends to fill up fast in summer (although at the moment it is pretty gloomy along the coast).

As far as Public Transportation in San Diego, I've only used the North County system (NCTD) Breeze, which runs along PCH from about Carlsbad to UCSD.

Wow! So much helpful information. Thank you all. I'm still sifting through all of it. I'll let you know how it goes.
So far we've booked (with cancellation option) the Best Western Plus Midtown LA near Wilshire/Vermont station. This would allow for convenient public transit to the game while also being close to some Hollywood sights that interested us. But we are still investigating Pasadena and will look at Glendale based on ltr's recommendation.
The cheaper rates in Pasedena (and probably Glendale) are attractive. That's a better option on Thursday. But it would be less convenient on Wednesday. As MoBro said, we'd rather not move rooms. In the end, we'll just have to weigh our convenience vs. our budget.

I *really* appreciate all the advice on driving in LA. Very helpful to me.

Because the OP chose to start two threads, this one doesn't make everything clear. I think their plan is to do their L.A. sightseeing on Friday morning/early afternoon before hitting the I-5. The sightseeing mentioned is all on the "other side" of the hill. If that's their plan, Glendale doesn't make sense.

Pasadena doesn't make sense either...

Yep. Frankly, I'd skip the sightseeing and hit the road early.

Yes, please delete this thread. It doesn't even include the most critical piece of information: this trip is the week including July 4th. Stopping for lunch in a beach town on the drive from SD to LA (July 3rd) would be like falling into a spider web. That drive is already going to be long and slow without detours into the more popular destinations for a summer holiday weekend.

Your two threads about traveling to San Diego and Los Angeles have been merged into one. All responses to both threads are now here.

Moderator1, there's a third thread titled something like "Accommodations after Dodger Night Game."