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Brian in Atlanta Mar 29th, 2000 05:04 AM

Santa Monica Trip Report
 
My wife and I spent a long weekend in Santa Monica in Feburary. Thanks to all those on this forum for their recommendations. Herewith is a brief trip report. <BR> <BR>We flew into LAX midday Thursday from separate cities (I from Portland, my wife from Atlanta) and happened to walk off the plane at the same time at adjacent gates. Too perfect. Within 2 minutes we were in baggage claim (where some sort of movie/TV show was being filmed) and hopped outside to wait for the Dollar Rent-a-Car bus. Took about 15 minutes of waiting and travel time until we arrived at the Dollar site and had to wait in line for about 15 more minutes before getting the car (note: most agencies, even discounters like Thrifty and Dollar, now have a free frequent renter program – sign up for it – we would have avoided the line) and other than the Dollar rep pushing us hard to prepay for the tank of gas (who falls for this?) the car was fine (and a good price at $21/day for a compact). <BR> <BR>Drove the 7 or 8 miles directly to Santa Monica through busy, but not unbearable, traffic. Not very scenic, but it only took 20-30 minutes. Arrived at our hotel, the Fairmont Mirimar (used to be the Sheraton), were stopped at the gate by security and asked our last name. Once I gave it, we were welcomed and waved in, and the guy didn’t even have to check a list. He said he remembered the name. Nice touch, or maybe they just decide whether you look legitimate or not. <BR> <BR>Drove past the gate around the largest fig tree I’ve even seen, dropped of the car and registered. We were staying at a corporate rate ($219) so we didn’t get the best room, but it was fine. Nothing fancy, but comfortable and it even had a wetbar. Biggest plus was windows that open all the way to let air in (this seems to be vary rare in today’s hotels). <BR> <BR>The lobby and public areas are very nice and the pool, while somewhat small (and too cold to use) was nestled in a very attractive courtyard. There is a fairly large half-inside, half-outside sauna and an extensive workout room. But having just finished a 3-day, 3-city road show for work, I was more interested in the hotel’s bar facilities than the workout facilitites. <BR> <BR>After a couple of well-deserved drinks that the hotel bar and a few handfuls of those wonderful nuts that fancy hotel bars provide (almost makes those $7.50 drinks seem resonable), we struck out for our first look as Santa Monica. We purposely chose the Fairmont due to its proximity to the 3rd Street Promenade as we largely rely on our feet for transportation on vacation and we wanted to be close to the action. We were unimpressed with the 3rd Street Promenade, however. While we expected it to be touristy, it was a bit much. Lots of noisy (and largely untalented) street performers, lots of restaurant hawkers, lots of time-share peddlers, and lots of the same national chain stores that seem to be popping up in every tourist center in the country (The Gap, Anthroplogie, Banana Republic, French Connection, etc). <BR> <BR>We moved on to the Santa Monica Pier, and while touristy (how could we not expect it to be), the views of the beach and the sunset and the feel of the wind blowing off of the water were great. We walked to the end and used the cold wind as an excuse to pop into the Mexican restaurant for a couple of beers and some chips and salsa. Oh, to be able to sit in a bar and not worry about someone blowing smoke in your face and all over your clothes is SO NICE! I tip my hat to Californians for making this possible. <BR> <BR>That night, we dressed up a bit, had a couple more drinks at the hotel bar (they’d added olives stuffed with jalapenos to the nuts) and headed up the street to P.F. Chang’s. I know, I know, it’s a chain, but I have a soft spot for their lemon scallops, and we were fairly tired and figured it would be nice to just walk a couple blocks and have a casual dinner. Well, let me tell you, that place was hopping. It was packed at 7:30 with lots of very beautiful people dressed in very fashionable black. I was glad we dressed up a bit. The plates fly out of the kitchen here, so though we had no reservations, we were seated before we could finish our first drink at the bar (to busy people watching to drink efficiently). And we were paying our check literally 45 minutes after being seated. A great, high energy place for a quick bite before going out – not a good place to linger. <BR> <BR>The next day (Friday morning) we took the car out, grabbed a couple of fruit smoothies and hit the road toward Malibu. Our intention was to drive as far as Santa Barbara (as it was a tough decision choosing Santa Monica over it to stay in), but construction and traffic on US 1 convinced us that this was not a good idea, so we turned around after driving through some of the hills in Malibu. What a beautiful area! Do those kids at Pepperdine know how good they have it? <BR> <BR>We dropped the car off around lunch time and walked over to the highly recommended (on this site) Border Grill. This is a neat place with a huge bar – must be great at happy hour. The food was pretty good if expensive. The tacos were nothing much (my wife’s lamb tacos were the best), but they did have a pretty interesting take on tamales – more like creamed corn – and they were delicious. Service was a little aloof – it took me about 10 minutes to get his attention to get another beer. Spicy food demands cold beer, doesn’t it? <BR> <BR>After lunch we decided to get the car back and drive to Beverly Hills via Santa Monica Blvd. This was a mistake. Traffic was pretty bad. It took us 30 minutes of hot, polluted driving to get 5 miles from the beach. We finally turned around and returned to the hotel, figuring we’d try again early the next day (Saturday). We gave the 3rd Street Promenade another chance, but ended up ducking into the first bar we saw to avoid screeching street performers and offers for free movie tickets. The bar was rather dark, and unfortunately all the beer was stale in the taps (yuck). The very nice and charming bartender told us that they had just re-opened after having been closed for 3 weeks for selling beer to a minor. This had been their first offense – the second would mean a permanent shutdown (pretty harsh!). As she hadn’t carded me or my wife, I sadly came to grips with the fact that we didn’t even raise the mildest suspision of being under 21. Made me feel so old we decided to head back and take a nap. <BR> <BR>We got up, showered, dressed, made our obligatory visit to the hotel bar and headed out for the long walk to dinner to another fodorite recommendation, Fritto Misto. This is a very causal, very affordable and very popular Italian restaurant on Colorodo Ave. While not cheap (pastas are $10-$13) it is very good and the choices are enormous. Unfortunately, the portions are also enormous – everyone leaving had styrofoam boxes with them. I know that many people would say that getting a lot of food is a good value, but when the portions so grossly exceed what even the biggest appetites can consume, then it’s just wasteful. I’d rather see reasonable portions and the restaurant’s profit margin increase, or better yet, lower the prices! Still, it was delicious. <BR> <BR>We headed in early as our bellies full of pasta slowed us down a bit. Plus, the next day was our last. We would need our energy. <BR> <BR>Bright and early Saturday morning, we got in the car, grabbed our fruit smoothies (with energy additive) and headed to Beverly Hills. Traffic was much better, drove briefly through Beverly Hills then up to Hollywood, past some of the Hollywood Blvd attractions (sorry, but Hollywood – in the valley at least - is not a pretty place – mostly dirty buildings and the ugliest tangle of power lines and poles I’ve ever seen). Took a detour and ended up on Mulholland Drive. This was beautiful – it runs along the top of the hills surrounding the city and has lots of vistas to turn off and take in the view (it was a beautifully clear day). And the homes are amazing. <BR> <BR>Once we’d had enough of the winding hill roads, we headed back towards the Pacific to Venice Beach. Venice seemed like a cool little beach town and the view of Santa Monica from the beach was neat because it gave a good perspective of how far away we were (the beach curves to the left, so Santa Monica is unobstructed from Venice). We didn’t stay long, however, because the boardwalk was mostly torn up (under renovation) and it had become very warm (must have been 80 degrees) and my long pants that seemed like a good idea early that morning were becoming uncomfortable. So we rushed home and changed before lunch. <BR> <BR>For lunch, we decided to check out Main Street as we had heard that it was a good alternative to 3rd Street. It was a LONG walk from the hotel, but we finally came to the area with the shops/restaurants/bars. We found a great place with a very nice patio (eating outside was a must on this perfect day) called the World Cafe. The service was great as was the food. After lunch we walked a few more blocks, found some cute clothing stores (no Gap here) where my wife bought a couple of summer dresses. <BR> <BR>As it had gotten to be 2:30, it had become time for a drink. We quickly found a suitable hole in the wall bar with very interesting local clientel, but more importantly, two empty barstools right on the street in the sun (I don’t think the regular customers favored the sun much). We passed a couple of hours chatting with the bartender and throwing our money away in one of those trivia wiz games. Finally we moved on, deciding to head back to our hotel via the beach, running into some “interesting” charactors, but nobody gave us any trouble. <BR> <BR>The beach itself is huge and there’s a nice concrete path running along much of it for joggers, skaters, etc. One thing that was very different for us as easterners is the way the beach (in Santa Monica) is separated from the hotels. Our hotel is advertised as ocean front, but to get to the beach, you have to cross a 4-lane road and then climb down (via a road or stairs) a 200 foot cliff passing over US 1 in the process. Not a big deal, but anyone expecting to simply walk out of the hotel and onto the beach would be disappointed. <BR> <BR>We cleaned up, got dressed (it had cooled significantly – actually had to exchange my shorts for a leather coat) and hit the hotel’s restaurant bar for our pre-going out drink and protein (nuts). Saw a very old and very anxious man with an obvious call girl as they were quickly leaving the restaurant. The poor old guy was excitedly instructing any restaurant employee who’d listen than they’d need to have their desert delivered to their room as they had to leave immediately. As the unlikely couple left, I noticed that it was about 7 minutes till 7 o’clock. I wondered whether his hour was about to expire. <BR> <BR>That night we hit a few of the pubs that are reportedly the result of British ex-pat’s influence on Santa Monica. The Brittania was nice with good service and a good crowd and the absense of smoke is wonderfully noticable. The other pub we hit, the Ye Old Somethingoranother, was even more crowded and full of thick necked bouncers. There must have been 6 of these mafia-looking toughs standing around glaring at everybody. The crowd that was in there clearly didn’t necessitate that kind of muscle, so maybe it gets rowdier as the night goes on. Or maybe it’s a mafia den. We didn’t stick around to find out. Those guys were too creepy. <BR> <BR>Having tied on a good one by then, I let my wife talk us into staggering down the street to a place she only knew as “One Pico”. The bartender at the Fairmont had recommended it to her. Figuring that “One Pico” referred to the address, we consulted our map beneath a streetlight and made the long walk. When we got to One Pico, we found that it was one of the fancy hotels that had been recommended to us (but was more than my company would pay). It was an exciting scene, comparable to the super hip hotels in South Beach. Lots of beautiful people milling about outside – it almost seemed like the entrance was restricted, but I was pretty tight and had walked A LONG WAY to get to this “One Pico” and I was going in. Didn’t turn out to be a problem. The lobby was huge and pretty swank with a free standing bar in the middle. The place was buzzing. The drinks were fantastic and they served freshly toasted almonds. Pure class. Without seeing the rooms, we decided that this is where we would stay on a return trip with the cost be damned (but I’m sure that was the gin talking). <BR> <BR>Somehow we made it home, very possibly stopping off somewhere else on the way, but I can’t be sure. We went to bed and awoke to rain (for the first time of the trip) and headed to LAX, stopping off at the World Café for brunch of eggs, spinich pancakes and a split of Veuve Cliquot. Even though it was raining, it was a perfect ending to a great long weekend in Santa Monica. <BR>

John Mar 29th, 2000 09:17 AM

Dear Brian: <BR>(Maybe my third try will work?) <BR>I'm glad to hear you had a great time in Santa Monica, despite some minor glitches!

Sponsor Mar 29th, 2000 04:09 PM

Brian, <BR> <BR>I trust you're getting help for that drinking problem.

John Mar 29th, 2000 05:03 PM

Drinking problem? Brian and Margaret were just having a bit of fun. Besides, they were on vacation and turned in their car before they had drinks

lizzy Mar 29th, 2000 07:19 PM

Right on, Sponsor. I had the same response to this post. Thought I was going to be reading a pleasant travelogue but became more dismayed the farther I read. Consider that your drinking might be out of control, Brian.

noname Mar 30th, 2000 04:52 AM

Not only was the excessive drinking a bit much, but frankly, Brian, I really didn't need to read about all the minutia of your trip! What makes you think all that innocuous activity would interest anyone? <BR>And John, not driving a car while drinking or after drinking doesn't mean you don't have a problem! It just means you're a considerate drunk!

martha python Mar 30th, 2000 07:06 AM

Yeah, Brian--a trip report that talks about where you went, what you did, how you did it, where you ate--what's with that? <BR>xoxo from a fellow wineau

Dionysos Mar 30th, 2000 07:25 AM

Considerate drunks go to heaven; abstaining bores do not. After all, God wants company when she feels like getting drunk! <BR>As to the "trivia," some folks call that "local detail" and love it.

Hippocrates Mar 30th, 2000 09:30 AM

II, 21. Drinking strong wine cures hunger. <BR> <BR>

jen Mar 30th, 2000 12:46 PM

Are you people serious??? Brian has some drinks on vacation and he's got a problem? LIGHTEN UP!!! Brian was nice enough to post his trip report (which, by the way, if you don't like, you don't have to read)and it gets turned into an intervention... I don't see the point. Brian, if you and your wife are ever in Chicago, look me up and we'll meet for cocktails- cheers!

Brian in Atlanta Mar 30th, 2000 01:10 PM

Thanks, Jen! But only if Martha can come too.

cherie Mar 30th, 2000 03:09 PM

TRIP REPORT- thats what you do after too many drinks....right?

Just Observing Mar 30th, 2000 05:15 PM

Allow me to quote the Happy Traveler: <BR> <BR>...it even had a wetbar. <BR> <BR>I was more interested in the hotel’s bar facilities... <BR> <BR>After a couple of well-deserved drinks... <BR> <BR>...Mexican restaurant for a couple of beers... <BR> <BR>...had a couple more drinks at the hotel bar... <BR> <BR>...finish our first drink at the bar... <BR> <BR>...a neat place with a huge bar... <BR> <BR>Spicy food demands cold beer... <BR> <BR>...ducking into the first bar we saw... <BR> <BR>The bar was rather dark, and unfortunately all the beer was stale in the taps (yuck). <BR> <BR>...obligatory visit to the hotel bar... <BR> <BR>As it had gotten to be 2:30, it had become time for a drink. <BR> <BR>...and hit the hotel’s restaurant bar for our pre-going out drink... <BR> <BR>That night we hit a few of the pubs... <BR> <BR>Having tied on a good one by then, I let my wife talk us into staggering down <BR>the street to a place she only knew as “One Pico”. <BR> <BR>...with a free standing bar in the middle. <BR> <BR>The drinks were fantastic... <BR> <BR>...(but I’m sure that was the gin talking). <BR> <BR>Somehow we made it home, very possibly stopping off somewhere else on the way, but I can’t be sure. <BR> <BR>...brunch of eggs, spinich pancakes and a split of Veuve Cliquot.

noname Mar 30th, 2000 05:32 PM

The saddest part, Brian, is that because of your inane posting, a lot of us will probably no longer pay much heed to any of your contributions on the Forum!

cupoflife Mar 30th, 2000 05:46 PM

Noname, you're only speaking for yourself there, not some, few, many or a lot of others. Just you. <BR> <BR>Only Americans with their disapproving, (and usually hypocritical) Puritanical roots condemn alcohol consumption. In Europe, people of all ages consume alcoholic beverages at all hours, every day -- it's part of life! No big whoop. <BR> <BR>He's not driving and he's not bothering you, so what's the problem? Worry about yourselves instead and MYOB. <BR> <BR>A toast to you, Brian in A.!

noname Mar 30th, 2000 06:16 PM

My dear cupoflife, I can assure that I am hardly puritanical in thought or deed! Goodness, I even drink alcoholic beverages. And bully for you, apparently a European who drinks all hours of the day and night. How wonderful!

Omar Mar 31st, 2000 02:03 AM

It's amazing. On a single posting you meet a lot of the drips that give the U.S. such a bad name abroad. No wonder the world is laughing at you! And I don't mean Brian and Margaret. <BR>Get off your soap box you narrow-minded puritans, and let us drink in peace.

Saki Mar 31st, 2000 03:25 AM

Ah, yes, Omar! You're a man of the wolrd. I have always heeded your great advice: <BR> <BR>Come, fill the Cup, and in the fire of Spring <BR>Your Winter-garment of Repentance fling: <BR>The Bird of Time bas but a little way <BR>To flutter--and the Bird is on the Wing. <BR> <BR>Whether at Naishapur or Babylon, <BR>Whether the Cup with sweet or bitter run, <BR>The Wine of Life keeps oozing drop by drop, <BR>The Leaves of Life keep falling one by one. <BR>

Doc Maynard Mar 31st, 2000 03:38 AM

Brian: <BR>Just ignore "Just obsessive." Obviously HE has a drinking problem, or he wouldn't post stuff like that. <BR>I agree with Dionysos: If God didn't drink, she wouldn't have invented earthquakes, tornadoes, and Republicans.

John Mar 31st, 2000 04:14 AM

Brian: <BR>I have to agree with Doc. Ignore those anonymous dolts. I REALLY enjoyed reading your story, and I hope you'll share your future travel experiences with us. <BR>I'm looking forward to checking out some of those bars next time I'm in Santa Monica. <BR>Keep up the good work!

martha python Mar 31st, 2000 05:44 AM

Brian, Jen, I consider that a date.

Brian in Atlanta Mar 31st, 2000 05:50 AM

Whoa! You'd think I'd written about my plane trip to China in first class with my 2-month old. Or maybe I'm just the Sam Hempill du jour. :) <BR> <BR>I truly apologize to anyone I've offended with the content or style of my post. If I could give you back the 6 minutes it took to read, I would. I was simply trying to add some color to what otherwise (to me at least) could have been a fairly uninteresting trip report ("We stayed at the Fairmont. It was nice. We ate at Border Grill. It was good. Does anyone have any questions for me?"). <BR> <BR>If my posts offend you, don't feel obligated to read them in the future. And feel free to ignore any advice I put on this forum. There are plenty of posts that I don't take to heart. <BR> <BR>And John, don't worry, I won't stop posting trip reports. And I won't change my style of living or writing. Our next trips are to Toronto in April and Belgium and Paris in May. Can you guess why we chose Belgium and Paris? For the beer and wine, of course! :)

Sarah Mar 31st, 2000 06:14 AM

Okay Brian, Marth, and Jen, I will go out and suce with you guys!!! The rest of you CANNOT EVEN BE SERIOUS!!! My God, someone talks about drinking and you knuckleheads fall off of the wagon, I mean handle! Jez, simmer down, not everyone that drinks has a "problem."

happy Mar 31st, 2000 06:26 AM

Brian, you're getting quite a harem there for your drinking party. (Maybe, that's Brian's secret--drinking is a good way to meet women!) <BR>Question for Sarah: What does "suce" mean?

Sarah Apr 3rd, 2000 04:41 AM

"suce" = sauce. cheers.

Michele Apr 3rd, 2000 12:14 PM

Brian, <BR>Well, I for one enjoyed hearing about your trip - and I live in So. Ca.! I remember you asking about places to go for the weekend, and it's always nice to hear what advice (if any) people took and what they enjoyed doing! <BR> <BR>As to the drinking? Well, who cares!?! When I went to Cancun, I was wasted almost every day! It's a vacation, folks. You know, time to have a little fun, relax, enjoy? <BR> <BR>Good trip, Brian, and I hope if I every get to Atlanta you can offer me advice on where/what to do! <BR> <BR>

jack Apr 3rd, 2000 02:48 PM

There's nothing worse than being on vacation in L.A. with a Puritan! Why don't you other folks hurry out to Salt Lake City and let Brian enjoy a couple drinks to relax. Give me a break!

Diane Apr 3rd, 2000 04:26 PM

Sometimes you have enough of the trips to Grandparents or the beach with the kids. When you get a chance to take a vacation with your mate, and can enjoy food, drinks, and OTHER adult activities, I say go for it. Sounds like you had a lot of fun.


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