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Bob Sullivan Jul 14th, 1999 07:22 AM

San Francisco things to do
 
My wife and I will be vacationing in SF in 3 weeks and don't have the itinerary completely filled! We have the wine country and Alcatraz scheduled, as well as a trip down to Monterey. Need help on the SF area sights and eats. First time to SF area so I'm very openminded. Any suggestions?

Howard Jul 14th, 1999 08:01 AM

Also, drive north over the Golden Gate Bridge for a day or two to Muir Woods and the Reyes National Seashore.

kam Jul 14th, 1999 12:05 PM

Bob, Don't over schedule your trip. You don't say how long you'll be here, but plan to spend a couple days if possible just walking around, exploring shops and neighborhoods. We always find interesting things to do in the city. You might want to take the ferry over to Sausalito or Tiburon where there is a super Mexican restaurant with great views back to SF. Go to SFGate for the Chronicle's restaurant reviews or search the old posts here. A few of our favorites are Boulevard, Kuleto's, Moose's, Harbor Village, Waterfront, and Rose Pistola. Get a copy of the Eyewitness Guide to SF--it will explain the various neighborhoods and what to see. Enjoy.

D.B. Jul 14th, 1999 04:03 PM

People rarely mention the exploratorium. If you want to spend a few hours being amused by physics and tricky gadgets, give it a go. <BR>

cp Jul 14th, 1999 04:16 PM

Tea in the Japanese Garden in Golden Gate park is always fun.

wendy Jul 14th, 1999 07:41 PM

Spend an afternoon in Berkeley on Telegraph Avenue. You can get there on BART - don't even dream of looking for parking.

Cherry Tan Jul 15th, 1999 12:20 AM

Hi Bob! <BR> <BR>I just recently went to San Francisco for my honeymoon. Like you, we did not have an itinerary so I asked people around. If you are at the Wharf- try to eat at Scoma's. I think it's one of the best restaurant. Ofcourse, you have to ride the Cable Car to truly experience the San Francisco Experience. If your wife wants to do some shopping, she can go to market street- eight street, that's where the shopping malls and stores begin. Enjoy and let me know if you need any suggestions. <BR> <BR>

Karen Jul 16th, 1999 01:10 PM

There's also lots of great theater and musical performances -- see a show!

John Montana Jul 23rd, 1999 09:05 AM

From the pine-shaded towns of Georgia they come. From the <BR> sprawling suburbs of Ohio and the cramped apartments of <BR> Manhattan. By Boeing jet, by Greyhound, by wood-paneled <BR> station wagon and Harley-Davidson. They come bearing <BR> uncomfortable walking shoes and empty suitcases yearning for <BR> souvenirs. They come with dreams of Jack Kerouac, Carol <BR> Doda, and free fog for all. <BR> <BR> They are the San Francisco tourists. <BR> <BR> And you are their tour guide. <BR> <BR> It doesn’t matter that you didn’t ask <BR> for this job. Just by living in this great <BR> city, near this great city, or even a <BR> day’s drive from this great city, you <BR> have volunteered your time, energy, <BR> and sofa bed to the vacation <BR> enjoyment of others. <BR> <BR> When faced with these obligations, <BR> it’s tempting just to steer your guests <BR> toward Pier 39 and consider your duty done. Unfortunately, <BR> these are people you know, people you love. You owe them <BR> something a little more personal. <BR> <BR> It isn’t that difficult. First, think carefully about your visitors. <BR> Consider their ages, their dispositions, their loves and hates. Do <BR> they like jazz? Are they afraid of heights? Can they order in <BR> Cantonese? Then ask yourself what little slice of San Francisco <BR> these people will want to take home and treasure. <BR> <BR> To help you find the answer, we’ve woven together these five <BR> tourist tales. So gather round and listen. You may find your own <BR> guests in these stories—stories that begin, "Once upon a time, <BR> in the kingdom of San Francisco . . ." <BR> <BR> They Like Ike At 5:23 a.m., it begins. A creak of bedsprings, a <BR> loud clearing of sinuses. By the time you stumble bleary-eyed into the <BR> living room, they’re drinking Folgers instant coffee and talking loudly <BR> over the Today show. Uncle Irv and Aunt Edna. By some bizarre twist <BR> of genetics, your relatives. <BR> <BR> After a stack of Swedish <BR> pancakes at Sears Fine Food, <BR> your first stop is the Jeremiah <BR> O’Brien. On board the World War <BR> II liberty ship, the voices of the <BR> Andrews Sisters ring through <BR> narrow hallways. Edna avoids the <BR> steep steps into the engine room, <BR> but you follow Irv down to where a <BR> bright-eyed veteran is explaining <BR> how scenes from Titanic were shot using Jeremiah’s triple-expansion <BR> steam engine. Irv couldn’t care less. He’s too busy poking around the <BR> pipes, peering into the boilers. "Look here," he beckons, pointing to a <BR> 3-foot-long box wrench. "Won two bits for putting my head through one <BR> of these." <BR> <BR> After the Jeremiah, Irv is itching to go see the World War II Pampanito <BR> sub, also docked at Pier 45. You and Edna decide to visit the nearby <BR> city museum, in the Cannery building. As you work your way through, <BR> the city’s legends spring to life: Joshua Norton, self-declared Emperor <BR> of the United States; Lillie Hitchcock Coit, spunky heiress and fire <BR> aficionado. Just as you and Edna are poring over bottles melted in the <BR> 1906 inferno, Irv reappears. "How was the Pampanito?" you ask. <BR> <BR> "Tighter than a sardine can. Let’s eat." <BR> <BR> On the western edge of Golden Gate Park, the historic Beach Chalet <BR> is crowded with couples sipping microbrews and chatting over salads. <BR> While you wait, you study the vibrant WPA murals of San Francisco. <BR> Edna stops before a panel of women in one-piece swimsuits that show <BR> their strong legs and rounded stomachs. "Now that’s what a gal <BR> should look like," she says approvingly. "Well-fed." <BR> <BR> After lunch and two stops in Golden Gate <BR> Park—the arboretum for Edna and the <BR> fly-casting pools for Irv—you cruise down <BR> the Great Highway to Fort Funston. A faded <BR> wind sock sails taut to the east, beckoning <BR> to hang gliders. You pause to watch a group <BR> struggling into their pupa-like harnesses, <BR> then head to the ocean overlook. <BR> <BR> "Holy mackerel!" bellows Irv as the first <BR> glider leaps off the cliff. The three of you sit <BR> spellbound, squinting up at the silhouettes <BR> whirling on an updraft. Afterward you walk <BR> along the cliff tops, where Edna befriends <BR> every scrappy terrier that bounds past. <BR> <BR> By now you’re craving Indian food, but <BR> you’re going to play it safe: Years ago you <BR> took Irv and Edna out for Ethiopian and they <BR> still haven’t let you forget about the lack of <BR> silverware. You decide on Kuleto’s <BR> downtown, where you like the dark, stylish <BR> decor and Edna and Irv will be satisfied with <BR> the large portions of pasta. <BR> <BR> On nearby Nob Hill, hundreds of World War <BR> II servicemen downed their last martini at <BR> the Top of the Mark before shipping out. <BR> Tonight, Wally’s Swing World is re-creating <BR> the sounds of the era, and Edna pulls Irv <BR> onto the dance floor before he can finish <BR> complaining about his dress shoes. You <BR> walk to the window and gaze at the lights of the city. <BR> <BR> "May I have this dance?" It’s Irv, looking bashful. You take his rough <BR> hand and he catches you up in a graceful twirl and a cloud of Old <BR> Spice. Edna looks on, clapping and smiling. In an instant the predawn <BR> wake-up is forgiven. They are, after all, your relatives. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> The Young and the Restless Despite the fact that she <BR> slept until 11, Mel still looks venomously cranky this morning as she <BR> slips on her leather jacket and pins back her dark hair. You know what <BR> this face means: You have exactly 10 minutes to locate caffeine or <BR> Mel will self-destruct. <BR> <BR> There’s a line of sunglass-shrouded hipsters outside Boogaloos in the <BR> Mission, but you squeeze past the crowd and return with an orange <BR> juice for you and a Depth Charge—coffee with an extra kick of <BR> espresso—for Mel. By the time she drains the last muddy drops, her <BR> mood has brightened considerably. She points to the Bay Guardian <BR> she’s been leafing through. "Hey, get this: ‘Eco-warrior seeks <BR> Buddhist nudist for spiritual interludes.’ Who are these people?" <BR> <BR> A t the table, the conversation shifts from the personals to her latest <BR> Super 8 film project, pausing only slightly when the huevos rancheros <BR> arrive. Completely sated, the two of you stroll down sunny Valencia <BR> Street, ducking into thrift shops and record stores before turning down <BR> to the BART station on Mission. When the train reaches Powell Street <BR> you head toward the unmistakable silhouette of the Museum of <BR> Modern Art. Inside there’s a visiting black-and-white photo exhibit that <BR> Mel won’t stop talking about and a diorama show that she calls "the <BR> most bogus thing I’ve seen all year." The biggest hit is the <BR> vertigo-inducing catwalk. <BR> <BR> You while away the last hour of the afternoon in the green oasis of <BR> nearby South Park, then head to the Brain Wash Cafe for Mel’s <BR> second caffeine infusion of the day. On the way you stop for photos at <BR> the Defenestration Building art project, an abandoned building with <BR> Dali-esque furniture hanging out its open windows. <BR> <BR> "What’s defenestration?" Mel asks, peering up at a food-filled <BR> refrigerator suspended in midfall. <BR> <BR> "It means to throw something out a window," you sagely reply, <BR> thankful you looked the word up. <BR> <BR> Knowing Mel’s love of drama, you made <BR> dinner reservations weeks ago for Asia SF, <BR> home of some of the city’s finest gender <BR> illusionists. As the sleek walls shift slowly <BR> from red to purple to yellow, Mel gives her <BR> order to a Ru Paul look-alike with a pale <BR> orchid tucked behind his left ear. Ten <BR> minutes later this same waitress is towering <BR> atop the bar in 5-inch silver platforms. As he <BR> struts and strides to "I Will Survive," Mel <BR> leans over to whisper ruefully, "He’s got <BR> nicer legs than I do." <BR> <BR> It’s a tough decision what to hit next: a <BR> campy classic at the art deco Castro <BR> Theatre . . . madcap snapshots in the photo <BR> booth at Uncle Mame’s variety store . . . <BR> Then it comes to you: the Beauty Bar. <BR> When you arrive at the faux beauty parlor, <BR> the crowd is busy nursing pink <BR> cosmopolitans and admiring the 1950s <BR> kitsch. Mel grabs a spot under a hair dryer <BR> and you head to the bar to order. When you <BR> turn around Mel has moved to the <BR> manicurist’s table and is waving a still-wet <BR> set of orange nails in your direction. "It’s <BR> called ‘Dork.’ Whatcha think?" <BR> <BR> "Looks dorky." <BR> <BR> "No come on, really." <BR> <BR> After another round, Mel begs you to take her dancing, even though <BR> you haven’t updated your moves since high school. Finally you agree <BR> and catch a cab to Nikki’s. <BR> <BR> As you step inside you’re hit with a wave of sweat, sound, and energy. <BR> The whole place is pulsing to Michael Jackson’s "Don’t Stop ’Til You <BR> Get Enough," and before you can help yourself, you and Mel are <BR> grooving in the thick of things. Three songs later you’re still going. As <BR> soon as a bad song comes on, I’ll take a breather, you think. <BR> <BR> By 1:30 you still haven’t stopped dancing and your knees are officially <BR> on strike. You give Mel the signal to head out. Outside in the chilly air <BR> she grabs your arm conspiratorially: "Man I’m starving. Let’s get some <BR> grub." <BR> <BR> You stare at her incredulously but you’re too tired to argue. As the <BR> cab pulls up to take you to El Farolito for burritos, all you can think is <BR> tomorrow it’s Mel’s turn to buy you a Depth Charge. <BR> <BR> Lawyers in Love For a guy who never <BR> wore anything but jeans and a sweatshirt in <BR> college, Steve seems completely at ease this <BR> morning in his button-down and Dockers. <BR> "Lookin’ sharp, big guy," you say as you clap <BR> him on the back and kiss Victoria on the <BR> cheek. <BR> <BR> Since your VW is in the shop, you’ve agreed <BR> to take their rented Explorer to the Marina. On <BR> the way, Steve and Victoria reminisce about <BR> their last visit, when they toured Union Street. <BR> Oh yes, you recall grimly, the day you <BR> became a human pack mule for shopping bags. <BR> <BR> After picking up steaming lattes and croissants at the Grove, you <BR> continue to the Palace of Fine Arts. A remnant of the 1915 world’s fair, <BR> the Palace looks majestically anachronistic as you approach, and by <BR> the time you’ve finished your outdoor breakfast, several brides have <BR> been photographed against the classical columns. <BR> <BR> Steve and Victoria are home-hunting in Denver, so you cruise up to <BR> the moneyed neighborhood of Sea Cliff for a house tour, pointing out a <BR> white colonial here, a Mediterranean villa there. You gesture <BR> nonchalantly toward a sprawling mansion. "That’s Robin Williams’s <BR> house." <BR> <BR> "Really?" Steve rolls down his window. He sits expectantly, searching <BR> for signs of stardom. <BR> <BR> "I see him!" he yells suddenly, causing you and Victoria to press up <BR> frantically against the window. As a figure in white disappears behind <BR> the manicured shrubs, Victoria sinks back into her seat. "Honey, that <BR> was the gardener." <BR> <BR> At the end of Sea Cliff you stroll down to the tiny crescent of China <BR> Beach. Steve skips rocks as Victoria takes photos of the Golden Gate <BR> with her digital camera. Off the rocky point, a lone surfer bobs like a <BR> shivering seal. <BR> <BR> After the wind and fog it feels good to reach the sun- filled interior of <BR> Zuni Café, where you slurp up salty oysters and people-watch out the <BR> windows. As you head down to the next highlight—the ornate <BR> stone-and-plaster interior of City Hall—you realize you’ll have to <BR> traverse shop-lined Hayes Street to reach your final destination, the <BR> Victorian Painted Ladies. Stay calm, you think. The Hayes boutiques <BR> may be upscale, but they’ve got a little too much attitude to appeal to <BR> these two. <BR> <BR> After only a block you are proven wrong. First there’s the Hayes & <BR> Vine Wine Bar, where Steve and Victoria each sample a handful of <BR> vintages. Then two shoe stores, a watch shop, a home furnishings <BR> store, two galleries. Before you know it, you’re lumbering behind, <BR> laden with bags. Next visit, you swear darkly, you’ll insist on an <BR> Anchor Steam Brewery tour and a Giants game. <BR> <BR> Finally you reach the row of pastel <BR> Victorians that slants against the cityscape. <BR> "Wow, is that the Mrs. Doubtfire house?" <BR> Victoria asks, pointing to the corner home. <BR> <BR> "No," you say wearily, "that’s further down, <BR> on Broadway." You’ve been upstaged by <BR> Robin Williams again. <BR> <BR> Two of the city’s sleekest <BR> restaurants—Absinthe and Jardinière—are <BR> nearby, but you’ve got something even more <BR> dramatic in mind. When you descend into <BR> Loongbar’s dragon-themed dining room and <BR> hear the gasps, you’re glad you broke your <BR> rule about eating at Fisherman’s Wharf. <BR> <BR> Just as the black pepper ribs arrive, Steve’s <BR> cell phone rings and he heads outside to <BR> take the call. By the time he returns, the <BR> ribs are in your stomach and their spot <BR> taken by sweet-and-sour snapper. As you <BR> take a bite, you hear the waitress telling <BR> Victoria that Don Johnson has just bought <BR> the restaurant. "It’ll be reopening as <BR> something Vietnamese," she whispers. "He <BR> may even feature it on ‘Nash Bridges.’ " You sigh. Don Johnson. <BR> Robin Williams. Maybe you should just move to Hollywood. <BR> <BR> After dessert, you stand to leave, patting your pocket. Tickets to Rent <BR> still there. Stomach satisfied. You’re feeling good. "Hey guys, why <BR> don’t we take the cable car downtown and grab a cab back? It’ll be <BR> fun." <BR> <BR> Steve and Victoria turn and look at each other in bewilderment. <BR> "What? And leave the Explorer?" <BR> <BR> You’ve Got to be Kidding World’s Coolest Grown-up. <BR> These are the words shining in Natalie’s and Derek’s young eyes <BR> when you tell them you’re taking them for a doughnut picnic at the <BR> Wave Organ. Martha and Bill’s concerned looks seem to suggest <BR> "World’s Highest Dental Bills," but you know they’ll come around once <BR> they bite into a chocolate éclair. <BR> <BR> After procuring the candy-pink box from All Star’s, the five of you walk <BR> down the Marina breakwater, pointing out Angel Island and Alcatraz. <BR> At the end of the path, a Dr. Seussian series of pipes gurgles and <BR> sighs to the incoming slosh of the sea. Nine-year-old Derek presses <BR> his ear to one. "Sounds like Dad’s stomach." Bill grins and pats his <BR> belly. <BR> <BR> By the time the box is empty the kids are frothing to be set loose in <BR> the Exploratorium’s cavernous hall of science. Derek practically trips <BR> in his eagerness to experience centrifugal force on the spinning <BR> machine; Natalie is slightly more dignified as she hurries toward the <BR> giant bubbles shimmering up from the center of the room. <BR> <BR> You catch up with them at the <BR> large shadow box, where Natalie <BR> performs a shaky handstand <BR> against the wall and Derek leaps <BR> into the air. Flash! An upside-down <BR> Natalie is captured in shadow, her <BR> younger brother two feet off the <BR> ground beside her. Before long, <BR> you, Martha, and Bill are elbowing <BR> kids aside, twisting sideways against the wall in pharaoh profile as Bill <BR> hums "Walk Like an Egyptian." Suddenly, you see Natalie standing in <BR> front of you, arms folded. "You guys are so embarrassing." <BR> <BR> So much for World’s Coolest Grown-up. <BR> <BR> Cheeseburgers and malteds at Mel’s Diner soon smooth over the <BR> Shadowgate incident, and Natalie even joins in when "The Chipmunk <BR> Song" comes on the jukebox. With preteen scorn defused, it’s time to <BR> rent skates and head for Golden Gate Park. <BR> <BR> Since it’s Sunday, the park’s main drive is <BR> blocked off, and a legion of in-line skaters <BR> weave expertly through orange cones, <BR> leaping over obstacles. It looks effortless. A <BR> hundred yards later you’re cursing what <BR> seem to be ball bearings strapped to your <BR> feet. Just as you hit the ground for the <BR> second time, Martha whizzes by. "Looking <BR> good, Martha!" you shout in admiration. <BR> <BR> "Where are the brakes?" she shrieks. <BR> <BR> By the time you reach the Japanese Tea <BR> Garden you’re happy to settle into the <BR> shady teahouse with a plate of almond <BR> cookies. The kids won’t stop clambering <BR> over the bridge that arches across the koi <BR> pond, and you eventually convince the whole <BR> family to perch on its perfect half-circle. <BR> "Say ‘bonsai trees!’ " you call out and snap <BR> the photo. <BR> <BR> The long second stretch of skating goes <BR> smoother, and when you finally reach <BR> Ocean Beach you’ve stopped clutching your <BR> chest in fear. Martha doles out street shoes <BR> from her backpack and you head up to the <BR> Cliff House and the Musée Mécanique, <BR> home of the old arcade games from the Playland-by-the-Sea <BR> amusement park. You’ve brought a roll of quarters so everyone can <BR> watch the dancing marionettes, hear the player pianos, and peer <BR> through the aging stereoscopes, but most of the roll goes to feeding <BR> Laughing Sal, the mechanical redhead whose maniacal cackle elicits <BR> peals of laughter. <BR> <BR> If you didn’t have to return the skates, you’d take the kids down to the <BR> Sutro Baths to poke around the ruined foundations and salty tide <BR> pools. Happily, the cab ride back to the Haight carries its own <BR> entertainment value for two suburban kids. <BR> <BR> You’re hoping Isobune’s circular sushi bar will be a similarly <BR> successful novelty, though it’s a stretch for children raised on grilled <BR> cheese and fries. As wooden boats piled with mackerel and spicy <BR> tuna float by, Natalie decides she’s sticking to California rolls. Derek, <BR> on the other hand, is delighted with the idea of raw fish. "Hey, Nat! <BR> Nat!" he yells, wiggling a pale strip of halibut at his sister. "This one <BR> isn’t dead yet!" <BR> <BR> So much for cultural enrichment. <BR> <BR> Feelin’ Groovy At 8:30 in the morning, Lydia is waiting <BR> outside the Red Victorian B&B as promised. She jumps into the car <BR> with a jangle of jewelry and you head toward Fort Mason and Greens <BR> restaurant. They won’t have table service for several hours, but you <BR> pick up buttermilk scones at the to-go counter and take a seat <BR> overlooking the harbor. There’s a calm hush in the dining room that <BR> befits a place owned by the Zen Center. <BR> <BR> Although you have a few suggestions for today—the Asian Art <BR> Museum, a walk along the coast to Land’s End—you decide to ask <BR> Lydia what she wants to do. "Well," she muses, "we could pick up <BR> some herbs." <BR> <BR> Chinatown. A car-parker’s purgatory. <BR> <BR> Just as the thought of narrow alleyways and <BR> double-parked delivery trucks begins to <BR> incite a migraine, you remember your <BR> salvation: the Sutter Stockton Garage. <BR> <BR> Along Stockton Street the herb stores are <BR> cluttered with bins of bright red wolfberries <BR> and dusty ginseng. Lydia decides on a bag <BR> of yucca roots that look like chalky tongue <BR> depressors. As you continue eastward, the <BR> two of you duck into Waverly Place alley <BR> and climb up to the Tin How Temple to light <BR> incense at the gilded shrine of Tien Hua, <BR> Protector of Travelers. You wonder where <BR> they keep the Protector of Hosts. <BR> <BR> Chinatown bleeds into North Beach as you <BR> reach Columbus Avenue and the legendary <BR> City Lights Bookstore. Lydia crosses herself <BR> as she steps through the doorway and <BR> clomps downstairs to find the Eastern <BR> philosophy section. You wander up to the <BR> Beat area and are soon lost in the pages of <BR> The Dharma Bums. When you return to the <BR> main level, Lydia is chatting up the cashier <BR> and stuffing two books on meditation into a canvas backpack already <BR> bulging with the harmony balls and Buddha charms from Chinatown. <BR> <BR> On the grass of Washington Square you bite into hearty focaccia <BR> sandwiches from Molinari’s deli, watching the wizened Italian men <BR> doze in the shadow of the church. From the square, it’s a steep and <BR> breathless walk up to Coit Tower, where cuddling couples peer out at <BR> the bayscape below. After peeking in at the Depression-era frescoes, <BR> you descend to the east along the garden-lined Greenwich Steps. <BR> Light laces down through giant ferns as a gray tabby slinks up and <BR> winds himself between Lydia’s ankles. A young man carrying a <BR> cherubic baby passes you and disappears into a shingled cottage <BR> framed in orange trumpet vine. "Can you imagine living here?" asks <BR> Lydia. "Paradise on earth." <BR> <BR> You smile and nod. You were actually just thinking how miserable it <BR> would be to haul groceries up these stairs. <BR> <BR> By the time you and Lydia return to the car there’s a throbbing blister <BR> on your baby toe and still an hour and a half until your appointment at <BR> the Kabuki Springs in Japantown. In the meantime, you’ll have to <BR> de-stress at Mad Magda’s Tea Room. <BR> <BR> The fortune-teller’s table is empty when you arrive, and Lydia takes a <BR> seat beneath the colorful onion dome of St. Basil’s Cathedral. You <BR> order a pot of smoky Russian tea and head for the garden to sip and <BR> wait. After 15 minutes, Lydia returns, beaming. "What’d she say?" <BR> you ask. <BR> <BR> "She told me I’m ripe." <BR> <BR> "Ripe?" <BR> <BR> "Open to new experiences, filled with <BR> possibility, blooming with potential," Lydia <BR> gushes. <BR> <BR> When it’s your turn at the tarot table, your <BR> first card reveals a dark tower being struck <BR> by lightning. "Does this mean I’m ripe?" <BR> you ask hopefully. <BR> <BR> When you arrive at the Kabuki, soothing <BR> Japanese music is drifting softly over the <BR> communal bathing pools. You’ve booked a one-hour shiatsu massage; <BR> Lydia has signed up for something called a Javanese lulur, involving <BR> yogurt. You don’t dare ask. When you emerge from the room, you’re <BR> almost too relaxed to drive to dinner at Angkor Wat. Inside the dining <BR> room, a young Cambodian girl in pancake makeup and a traditional <BR> gold headdress is onstage, dancing sinuously to atonal music. Lydia <BR> is mesmerized. "Do you think they offer lessons? I used to belly <BR> dance you know." <BR> <BR> After finishing off her lemongrass salmon she leans over again. "Hey, <BR> did you see the ad for a nudist Buddhist in the Bay Guardian? I think I <BR> might call." <BR> <BR> <BR>

SFSally Jul 24th, 1999 04:47 AM

Boy, that was some posting. You have received some very good advice. Take plenty of time to just soak up the atmosphere of the greatest city on earth. Even the pan handlers in San Francisco do it with style. <BR> <BR>I personally would skip Berkeley or anywhere on the east Bay side. Many very dangerous areas and nothing to really see. Berkeley offers nothing unless you are into the 60's hippie scene. You still have that in San Francisco at Haight/Ashbury though it is not like it was 30 years ago.

Bob Sullivan Jul 26th, 1999 03:39 AM

Thanks everyone for the great advice. We've got just about the whole trip planned. Still looking for some good restaurant recommendations. We like good food and good restaurants, but prefer basic cuisine to the frufru! Kam, could you please post the name of the Mexican place in Tiburon? We will be spending 2 and a half days in the wine country and 5 in SF so there's lots of good eating to do. Thanks, BS

kam Jul 26th, 1999 10:25 AM

Bob, The Mexican restaurant is "Guaymas" at 5 Main Street, Tiburon. (415) 435-6300. Reserve on weekends. It's really good--upscale Mexican, very fresh with lots of tamales and seafood. Enjoy!

kkam Jul 26th, 1999 10:32 AM

Bob, reread your last post and must add another suggestion rarely mentioned when you get SF restaurant recommendations. Cafe de Paris Entrecote on Union Street in Pacific Heights is wonderful authentic French and very comfortable. Great fries! and of course, the Entrecote steaks. A branch of a cafe in Paris and Geneva. Serious calories, but you'll do a lot of walking in SF! Enjoy!

Michael Jul 28th, 1999 11:33 AM

If you want to check the web (like to see if anyone else has advice) while you're in SF, stop by CHAT Cafe at 18th Street/Sanchez Street. Its between the Castro and the Mission areas. You can use their iMacs free when buy coffee or sandwich, etc. You don't have to pay separate for Internet access.

Kaja Aug 2nd, 1999 03:39 AM

Hi, <BR>If you are going to Alcatraz you need to make a reservation in advance. We were just there and didn't make it to Alcatraz because it was booked for several days in advance. <BR>Kaja

M.O'Dell Aug 2nd, 1999 02:52 PM

I was just in SF for the fourth of July. Try going to the irish pub Fiddlers Green, great fun, just off of Fisherman's Wharf. Great celtic, pop, top 40, and oldies. The most friendly people in town, say hello to Rory the bartender. Also in sausalito is an awesome mexican restaurant called Margaritaville, have the appetizer sampler. (food for 10) Great exercise is renting bikes in fish. wharf and riding across the Golden Gate to sausalito, the view takes your mind off the ride (take a sweater across the bridge), but stay to long at Margaritaville and you'll have to take the ferry back. (which is actually better, since it's uphill back to SF, and you get great views from the boat!)

cherie Aug 3rd, 1999 03:00 PM

I like to shop for pearls in Chinatown and stroll through the antique shops and old bookstores alson Post and Sutter Sts.

Anne-Marie Aug 6th, 1999 01:10 PM

We just returned from a honeymoon in the San Francisco area. You've already received lots of great advice. If you're interested in architecture, you might want to check out a walking tour highlighting the city's Victorians. Refer to victorianwalk.com. As for food, my husband also prefers basic fare. We both enjoyed dinner at Zax in North Beach. Elegant, intimate, delicious. He thoroughly enjoyed a creamy tomato soup and cumin-encrusted pork loin, while I feasted on a goat cheese souffle and Chilean sea bass. For a more casual, inexpensive meal, consider pizza a Tommasso's, foccacia sandwiches at Mario's Bohemian Cigar Store, or a bountiful breakfast at Mama's, with more varieties of French toast than I'd ever imagined, and a cheery atmosphere. All of these places are in North Beach. Of course, this is just a brief sampling. The options are endless!

East Bay Nate Aug 19th, 1999 05:59 PM

SFSally is displaying the classic san francisco attitude: "there's nothing in the East Bay, SF is the center of the universe, blah blah..." <BR> <BR>First off, in Berkeley there's the University of California (of course) and all the museums that come with it. Up in the Berkeley hills there are great views of San Francisco Bay, and lot's of big houses designed by famous architects (if your into architecture), and way up there there's the UC botanical gardens. <BR> <BR>In Oakland there's the Oakland Museum, Lake Merritt, and the same great views of the bay from the hills. <BR> <BR>There are views of a large part of Northern California from the top of Mount Diablo. If you are interested in old aircraft carriers there's the USS Hornet in Alameda. There are Regional Parks all over the place if your into hiking and nature. <BR> <BR>This is only some of what there is in the East Bay.

Lu B. Aug 23rd, 1999 03:47 PM

While is San Fran, eat at a wonderful established SF restaurant, Zuni Cafe. Very good. Fun.


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