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Absolutely wonderful information. I don't need to purchase any books!! Thank you
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This is AMAZING! Bookmarking
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Stumbled across this by accident. Thank you so much Stu!
We spent a lot of the scary 1969 (Zodiac) year in the Bay area with occasional forays into SF when we could afford the bridge toll, which was a real issue back then. We've been back a few times since, but are long overdue. Because I know how comprehensive your Provence material is, I'm saving all these paragraphs! |
Excellent, Stu! Thanks so much. DH and I had a long weekend in SF a few years ago-your list provides many opps for our return visit!
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Stu: Where can I find a really good thin crusted pizza? Any recommendations there?
Also, is there any permanent farmers' market set up on a daily basis, similar to the one in Granville Island in Vancouver or the Fairfax Market in LA? Thanks. Annetti |
Amici's used to be on Union St, but I think it moved or maybe closed permanetly.
Don't know of any other thin crust pizza places, and I don't think there is a daily market in SF. Stu Dudley |
Thank you, Stu.
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thank you ... great info!!
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A-16 for thin crust.
http://www.a16sf.com/ Last I saw Amici's moved from the Union St location to Lombard in the Marina area. We pass it on the way out of SF when we take the GG Bridge route. I know there is one in Vacaville's Nut Tree now. =P~=P~ |
Thank you, Kal. Just looking for some very good pizza. Anybody else out there with their favorites. Thank you.
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What kind of Pizza are you really looking for - besides thin crust?
IMO, there are two different types 1. Standard "Round Table" type with red sauce, sausage, mushroom, pepperoini - etc and it's usually quite filling and it is usually accompanied by beer. 2. "Designer" type, with condiments like sauteed fennel, fresh tomatoes, prosciutto, smoked duck breast, pickeled onions, etc. I think if you ask 20 people about their favorite Type 1 - you'll get 20 different answers. We like Amici's for the thin crust. The local paper runs weekly/monthly features about type 2. Personally, I don't recall what some of the paper's favorites are. However, Delfina is probably the most popular Italian type restaurant in the City - but their food is really not even close to 'red sauce" type Italian that you find in North Beach (Little Italy). They also run a Pizza restaurant next door to their main one. That's where I would go for type 2 pizza. Check www.sfgate.com for details. Stu Dudley |
Once again, thanks, Stu. by the way, we went on the web site for sfcityguides. Totally impressed about what is offered. Unfortunately, we will only have two weeks. The array of choices is incredible.
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Here's a round up of some SF favorite thin crust pizza places:
A16 in the Marina--Nepolitan in wood fired oven Delphina's in the Mission-- neopolitan, not wood fired. Gialina in Glen Park neighborood--neopolitan, not wood fired. Pauline's Pizza in the Mission--California style, thin but chewy crust Goat Hill in Potrero Hill--sort hybrid NY/CA Beretta in the Mission--neopolitan Airnell in the Mission--NY style Ideale in North Beach--Roman style |
SAB: That's wonderful!! Thanks very much. I wish we had more than 2 weeks in SF. It just won't be enough! Between the food, the sightseeing tours, the walking neighborhoods, we will not be bored.
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Wow, SAB - you know your pizza. I'll have to try a few.
About 6 times each year we go into The City for a Victorian Alliance meeting. It usually finishes about 9:00pm We like to have a pizza afterwards, but we're only familiar with places in the Noe Valley - Haystack Pizza. Now I have some alternatives. Thanks Stu Dudley |
Hey Stu: I'm not a big fan of typical red sauce pizza, so I've learned where I can find the kind I like. BTW Airnell's is not on my agenda, but many young friends who live in the Mission just love it--I'm not a big fan of greasy NY style slices either. But I put it on the list for those who are.
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Stu or SAB: Any ideas for a great ice-cream place, not a chain that either of you (or anyone else!) can recommend? Also need some vegetarian restaurants. Thanks in advance.
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For vegetarian restaurants -
<b>Millennium</b> www.millenniumrestaurant.com and <b>Greens</b> www.greensrestaurant.com R5 |
Yes, I forgot about Greens. I have Deborah Madison's cookbook. Thanks very much. It will be fun to try it.
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My favorite ice cream place is Bi-Rite Creamery in the Mission--salted caramel, totally fabulous!! Strawberry/balsamic, yummy!!! Mitchell's in Mission (sort of) is also an old time favorite. Swensen's on Union St. is also pretty popular.
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Thank you once again, SAB. With all Stu's suggestions of what to do and a couple of pizzas and ice-cream, I shall be well-prepared and happy during my two weeks in SF.
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((Y))((Y))((Y)) for Greens.
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Great article Exploring SF by cable car
out today on msn.com http://travel.msn.com/Guides/article...&GT1=41000 |
From the obove mentioned article:
>>POWELL-HYDE LINE: The Powell-Hyde line offers sweeping vistas of the ocean along Hyde Street.<< I don't think the author knows the difference between the bay and the ocean. Stu Dudley |
I was always under impression, the Bay is perpendicular Hyde St, not "along"
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Hi Stu
thnks for the wonderful tips and itineraries posted. i will be in SF in mid dec and will do the detour route from the airport to half moon bay to the lombard motels. just a question, where should i turn off if my final destination is san jose instead without missing all the nice bits?? |
I assume that you plan to head south from Half Moon Bay to San Jose, instead of heading north into the City.
Actually, the route south is much more scenic than the route north, because it is almost all open & beautiful coastline. Lots of places to park the car, admire the coastline, walk on the beach, etc. When the in-laws visit us at Christmas, we most always grab a sandwich at the Bonita house on Main St in HMB, and drive south along the coast, stopping at a beach & have a picnic. Once past HMB, the routes back inland are winding, scenic, and slow. You'll see more redwood trees than you ever thought existed. I would drive down the coast till you have seen enough ocean, then head inland at Pescadero Beach, towards the town of Pescadero. Drive into the town of Pescadero & brouse through any shops that are open. There is a popular restaurant called Duarte's Tavern there that is kinda retro. They are famous for their artichoke soup - that I really didn't find that interesting (I love artichokes - had one last night). After Pescadero, keep heading inland. You'll really need a map to get to Hwy 280 because there are several roads you can take. I would perhaps take Hwy 84 through La Honda, Sky Londa, then Woodside, then on to 280. This is a very pretty drive. Stu Dudley |
Actually I am thinking of taking the route you suggested frm SFO-Pacifica-Half Moon Bay-San Jose. I am just wondering how much time this whole route is going to take if we include Pescadero. We arrive SFO at about 11am in the morning and thinking of taking this detour en route to our friend's house where we will be staying the next few days. They are expecting us sometime in the afternoon.
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My suggested route does not go through Pacifica. No need to do that - as I said the coast north of HMB is not as scenic as the coast south (except for the Devils Slide section). The coast portion south can be very fast - I often go 50-60 mph on that road. The route inland is slower. I would budget 2 1/2 - 3 hrs just to make sure. The sandwich shop in Half Moon Bay has excellent sandwiches - we go there often just to have one. There is an outside dining area where you can have the sandwich, and if the weather is too cool they will let you go into the "old time" bar/cafe to have your sandwich there. I would also add about 30 mins to browse Main St in Half Moon Bay - more if you have the time & you like to shop (it's more interting than Pescadero).
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notes for April
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StuDudley!!!
you helped me immensely while I was planning my trip to Italy for 2006. now here you are again while I am planning a trip to San Francisco. thank you as always for being a great resource |
Bike Trip along the Bay, over the Bridge, and to Sausalito.
Here is what I would consider to be a perfect day by the Bay. Rent a bike at Blazing Saddles at Fisherman’s Wharf (or any other bike shop in the City). Blazing Saddles will provide a map and even a ferry ticket back to San Francisco from Sausalito. Head out and ride next to the Bay through Ft Mason, along the Marina Green, by the St Francis Yacht Club, and along the "Golden Gate Promenade" through Crissy Field. Enjoy the views and lovely atmosphere (no commerce) along this section of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area. You’ll get a fabulous view of the Golden Gate Bridge. If it’s near lunch time, pick up some lunch provisions somewhere (Wharf), and have a picnic on one of the many picnic tables spread throughout Crissy Field – or bring a blanket & spread it out on one of the sandy beaches along the way. As you get into some white former-military buildings, look for a pier that’s marked as Fort Point Wharf on the AAA map. It is the last pier before the Golden Gate Bridge. Walk out on this pier & admire the fabulous views. Then continue on to Ft Point. Explore the structure & enjoy the history & views from the ramparts, if Ft Point is open when you’re there. If the surf is up, watch the surfers catch waves next to Ft Point – we love to do this. Turn around & look to the east for some great views of the downtown skyline – especially from the ramparts at Ft Point. Next, get ready for a hill climb and bike over the GG Bridge. At the north end of the bridge, there is a lookout point that is usually crowded with cars if the views are good. Then continue down to Sausalito. Sausalito has some tacky souvenir shops, but not nearly as bad nor as many as those at Fisherman’s Wharf. Also, the village architecture and views are much nicer at Sausalito than at the Wharf. After dawdling in Sausalito, take a ferry ride back to the Wharf. Do this bike trip so you hit the Bridge in the afternoon on a week day. On weekends, bikers are not allowed on the east side of the bridge, which is the side with the views of SF. Also, in the morning the sun will be in your face for the views to SF from the GG Bridge, so the views won't be that great. Figure out when the sun is highest in the sky, and then start the journey from the Wharf about 1 ½ hrs before “high noon”. This will give you time to enjoy the ride through Ft Mason, the Marina Green & St Francis Yacht Club, Crissy Field, & Ft Point. There are nice bathrooms at the entrance to the Ft Point area. Ft Point itself is only open on Friday, Sat & Sun, so the best day to do this bike trip would be a Friday. You can stop in the Ft Point parking lot, admire the views, and watch the surfers on any day. The Web site for Ft Point is http://www.nps.gov/fopo . Stu Dudley |
Amazing! Thanks Stu.
Bookmarking for April trip. |
Wow! Bookmarking.
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Thanks Stu! Bookmarking for upcoming SF trip.
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is that the sandwich place in HMB that's right on main st? next to an old hotel? thanks |
Yep - It's in the same building as the old hotel. They re-did the outside dining terrace recently.
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Thank you so much for all the info Stu! We are planning a trip mid April to SF and cannot wait. We leave on a Monday and return on a Saturday. Do you think we can work in a trip to Yosemite? We are first timers in SF so after reading your posts I know there is a lot to do and see. Of course we don't want to miss Napa!
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Thanks Stu! Great info!
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I would not try to fit in SF, Napa, and Yosemite in just 4 1/2 days.
Stu Dudley |
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