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doug_stallings May 10th, 2014 12:04 PM

Airport transfer costs from EWR: A car service (reserved in advance and then you call after you get your luggage for curbside pick-up) costs $52 + approximately $15 in tolls plus a top of at least $10. So approximately $77 (may be a bit less because I don't remember the actual tolls).

A regular airport shuttle to a central location in Manhattan costs $14 per person (less if you buy round-trip). It drops you off near New York Penn Station or Grand Central.

Or you can take the shuttle bus from EWR to Newark Penn and then the NJ Transit train ($5) or PATH ($2.50). NJ Transit takes about 20 minutes, PATH about 30 minutes. The one you choose will depend entirely on where you're going. I believe the shuttle to Newark Penn is free. It's a hassle because it will be a) slow, b) very crowded, and c) making numerous stops. This is why I'm not so keen on it. But having said that, I have not ridden it. There's a thread about the EWR shuttle here, so perhaps you can read through that and decide.

I'm not a fan of shared shuttles like SuperShuttle, so I don't recommend them.

In NYC, I think you will make good use of city buses, but you will not benefit from the one-week card because it's expensive and you won't have time enough to take the rides to reimburse yourself. Otherwise, it's $2.50 per ride with a free bus-to-subway transfer with use of a Metrocard. A secret many travelers don't learn is that you also get a free bus transfer, so if you are going downtown on a bus, see what you want to see, you can jump on a different bus and move along within approximately 60 minutes without paying a second fare.

I do advocate everyone having an individual card for convenience, but they cost $1 each, and 4 people can share. But New Yorkers hate that because it takes you so long to pass the card back and forth.

I don't particularly like Hop on hop off buses because they are limited in traffic, don't run very often, can be extremely crowded in the summer, and are really expensive. However, for a person with a heart condition and another with some mobility issues, it may be a viable option for one of your days. But it's of most use if you want to stay on the bus and see the scenery. If you want to get off and do stuff, then I see (especially in the summer) huge crowds of angry tourists waiting at stops for the every-30-minute bus only to find that it's so crowded they can't get on. The subway and most buses run every 3 to 10 minutes during the day. You can quickly get the picture. But a lot of people love the HOHO buses, and I think they work just fine in cities where the transit isn't so seamlessly integrated, just not so much in NYC.

Taking a collapsible wheelchair on the subway is possible but will be a pain because of the stairs. Many stations are not accessible and don't have elevators. Almost none has an escalator to street level, and many don't even have them from the platform to the concourse level.

clarkgriswold May 10th, 2014 02:23 PM

Unless you stay on the upper west side (Excelsior maybe? or Beacon? ) you will not find anything that you don't consider "noisy". Maybe a high floor would help a bit, but you may need to learn how to sleep with earplugs if you want both convenient-to-Penn-Station and quiet.
Hilton Garden Inn Chelsea is in your price range for rooms with two QUEEN beds, but not "quiet".

musicfan May 10th, 2014 02:36 PM

DD and I stayed at the HGI-Chelsea for a week a couple of years ago and I don't recall it being particularly noisy, and we were on a lower floor (low enough that we often took the steps rather than the elevator). Even though the room had two queen beds, it was not particularly spacious, but we expected that. It is located on the street with many flower vendors so you would have to navigate the flower displays to get to the streets going up- and down-town for the buses--this isn't hard, just a little narrow at times. But it IS pretty and smells nice!

maxima May 11th, 2014 06:13 AM

your daughter may enjoy shopping at UNIQLO .. its on 5th Avenue at East 53rd Street.. its is not very expensive and has attractive clothing that someone her age would find fun.. they have a website, so she can see the clothing

H & M is about a block away .. it is also inexpensive.

Grandma May 11th, 2014 06:27 AM

Would your daughter be able to function with a walker with a seat … rather than a wheelchair?
You'll see elderly people with them all over the city. There's support while walking and then
a place to sit if one tires. Best of all they're easily foldable to get on buses, etc.

Clousie May 11th, 2014 07:55 AM

Agree with peteralan about the Milburn. No outside noise, rates at $199 for July, free breakfast and wifi which usually aren't a given at other hotels. Microwave and small refrig in each room, too.

Can't comment on subway accessability except that it's nearby. Also, if you're trying to save money on food, there are several wonderful markets in the area, where you could get good take out meals, or a good pizza place, which the girls may like.

mclaurie May 11th, 2014 08:28 AM

If the Milburnhotel.com works for your dates/budget, it's a good option and even includes some breakfast. It looks like you can get a 1 bedroom suite with 2 single or 2 double beds plus sofabed for close to your budget. You would likely have the quiet you want although staying in midtown (vs. the upper west side where the Milburn is) in walking distance to more things you'd like to see might make getting around a bit simpler for you. Also, most NYC hotels with 2 beds will have 2 doubles but there are some that have 2 queens (and some even have 2 queens plus sofabed). The Hampton Inn Times Square and the Hilton Garden Inn Times Square are 2 hotels with 2 queen beds in a very convenient location for getting around and specifically for using onboardtours.com but more about that in a minute. If you join Hilton Honors (free online frequent guest program) and use the MVP corporate discount of 0560041604, you may find that Hampton Inn within your budget or very close.

Hotwire is a discount site where you can input more than 2 people per room. You may not realize prices do fluctuate by date and typically early July is less expensive than later in the month. If you want to look at Hotwire, betterbidding.com has a list of hotels used by Hotwire by area, by star level with a list of amenities (ie. business center, restaurant etc.) that helps you narrow down if not identify what hotel you're likely to get. Even if you can't be sure of the hotel, I think if you stick with hotels with at least 85% or more thumbs up rating you should be fine.

onboardtours.com offers an overview tour in an air conditioned bus with a guide that stays with you. It's an easy way to see a lot without having to navigate yourself and if your daughter gets tired, she can stay on the bus when it makes stops. Depending on the tour you pick, I think they do one if not two cruises that will get you close to the Statue of Liberty. If they feel the need to vist the statue and/or Ellis lsland, you need to book that in advance on statuecruises.com Know it take a fair amount of time to do this with security etc.

Toucan2 May 11th, 2014 06:23 PM

I will respectfully disagree about the advice re: HOHO buses. I don't think they are an alternative for transportation, but after many many years of visiting NYC, a few years ago I bought a ticket. I was in the city to meet some friends with small children, and there was a point at which it was nice to just climb on the bus and ride around for awhile.

We didn't have to figure out schedules or routes, we were just along for the ride. I will say I have been on better HOHO busses in other cities as far as the guides. One of them spent most of her time reminding us to tip her (so I didn't). The other was much better, but dropped off mid-way through.

If you do decide you want to do this, buy the tickets in advance, online. I used a AAA discount on top of that and it was much cheaper than walking up and buying a ticket. If you decide to stay in midtown you can pick up your tickets at the offices on 8th Avenue, very close by.

mclaurie May 12th, 2014 02:12 PM

You're disagreeing with what advice about the hoho tours? They are opened topped and can get quite hot in warm weather. The guides are uneven at best (some good, some awful); they get crowded in summer and if you hop off, you sometimes wait forever for the next one. None of this is debatable. Onboardtours is in closed air conditioned buses with a tour guide that stays with you and you don't have to get out at every stop.

Toucan2 May 12th, 2014 02:22 PM

Why yes, I am mclaurie. I have been on the HOHO tours as stated above. I do not think they are perfect, but I gave my input from my experience. The OP can take it or leave it, but certainly I have every right to post it. You do not have to get out at every stop, I don't know where you got that from.

I'm not trying to sell or push anything. The OP asked for input, I gave it. I assume she is an adult and can make her own decisions.

maxima May 12th, 2014 05:11 PM

when making a hotel reservation you should ask if the room is handicapped accessible, in the event you do bring a wheelchair. Also would it be easier for your daughter to use a stall shower or a shower/tub combo ? Usually accessible rooms will have stall or roll in showers.

As you are planning on doing most of your sightseeing in midtown, you may not want to stay on the upper westside, as you will have spend more time going to and from your destinations,

you can look on the mta site for a list of accessible subway stations. however just because there is an elevator or ramp doesn't mean that you won't be walking long distances to get to the ramps/elevators. and the platforms are not air conditioned and can be hot and sticky in the summer.

the buses are air conditioned, there is a new app called bus time in every borough its free and will tell you when the bus you are waiting for will arrive at the bus stop

BonnieN May 13th, 2014 09:54 AM

Like some others I recommend upper west side for quiet, convenience and accessibility. I have stayed at hotel beacon for years . Quiet , clean, accessible , great people snd across the street from a wonderful grocery store. All or most rooms/suites have wonderful little kitchens.

clarkgriswold May 13th, 2014 10:46 AM

The Beacon is what, about 2.5 blocks from an express subway station? Meaning that you can be in Times Square pretty quickly? They have some suites with two double beds plus a queen sofa bed. In July they run about $270 plus taxes if you have AAA. Add to that the subway fares and taxi fares and it's quite a bit over budget, but quiet at least. Still not seeing much in their budget range other than Hilton Garden Chelsea, or La Quinta Inn midtown.

suze May 13th, 2014 10:47 AM

<<Do all hotels have air conditioning in rooms?>>

No. You'll need to specifically ask or check the websites, especially the lowest priced "budget" hotels may not.

doug_stallings May 13th, 2014 11:23 AM

I have never encountered a hotel in New York City that did not have a/c in rooms. There may be some hostels and illegal hotels that do not, but even the YMCAs in NYC have air-conditioned rooms. I don't think this is a serious concern unless someone is looking at a true SRO. Granted, some hotels (especially older and budget hotels) still have window a/c units. That is certainly true.

Traveller51 May 13th, 2014 12:29 PM

The MTA has a website that lists handicap accessible subway stations:
http://web.mta.info/accessibility/stations


As one of responses indicated many of the locations that claim to be handicap accessible do not have elevators at street level but only down a steep flight of stairs. You might want to check individual stations for more information

There are websites for the individual stations and there may be more information there on wheelchair accessibility. Here is info on the Times Square station for example

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Times_S...rk_City_Subway)

Taxis are expensive particularly where there is a lot of traffic however they can be very convenient at certain times such as weekends and during non-rush hours. On rainy days getting a cab can be a problem. When you factor in the convenience compared to the subway the taxi may make more sense for some trips.

Here is a website that lists some free things to do in New York
http://www.nycgo.com/free/

Places that you can go in New York that are relatively inexpensive include:

Museum of Modern Art (Can be Free Friday Nights-check website)
http://www.moma.org/visit/plan/offers#admission
Metropolitan Museum of Art
http://www.metmuseum.org/
Museum of Natural History
https://www.google.com/#q=museum+of+natural+history

For interesting shopping your daughters may enjoy the Soho area
http://sohonyc.com/#

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/manha...hborhood-guide
There are no bargains but they will enjoy browsing.

travelgirl2 May 18th, 2014 10:56 PM

Hope you have a great time in New York City. High Line Park is a beautiful park made out of an old railway bed. There are elevators at some entrances, many benches and seating areas along the park. It is a unique city experience to be in a nicely landscaped park overlooking the city streets and surrounded by towering buildings.


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