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JJ5 Oct 24th, 2005 10:59 AM

I don't know your area at all, but do know the path you are taking. Good luck, but also very much listen to what Go Travel just said.

You want to hit the "before" hot spots, not the hot spots. Capese?

OldSouthernBelle Oct 24th, 2005 04:41 PM

A friend of mines' DH quit his well paying job as an accountant at a large plant here, without having a job lined up. Seems he thought rather highly of himself.
Well, he's tried real estate sales and now insurance, but is still not doing too well...can't get anyone to hire him in what he feels is his field!

Just a word to the wise...

Another thing, when we have moved , we always rented for 6 months in the area we THOUGHT we wanted to live, got to know the area...then purchased a home. It is a bother, moving twice in a year, but it pays off in the end...we felt we were happier with our decisions this way.

Belle
Belle

OldSouthernBelle Oct 24th, 2005 04:42 PM

hummmmm, stuttering again!:))

Belle

KMK Oct 24th, 2005 06:18 PM

I just recently relocated without a job. It can be successfully done....of course, it can also be UNSUCCESSFULLY done, I've seen that as well!!!

Know what the job market and salaries are like in your new location. And, figure out why you are relocating - I didn't relocate to re-create my previous lifestyle, I didn't need to duplicate my previous salary (or the stress that came with my previous salary, actually!), so there was a wider pool of jobs I was willing and able to apply for. I am a professional, so MAYBE I could have gotten someone to move me for a job - or maybe I'd still be miserable in my old job, just waiting. I certainly wouldn't have the job I have now, since it is a state govt job that required me to be a state resident to even apply!

As for being suspect for leaving a high paying job - which is exactly what I did - I think if you are moving to a geographically desirable area, it is easy to explain, and I think the people living in the new area understand - at least in my case, everyone seemed to understand.

That said, don't underestimate the task - I found a job, but my husband does not have one yet. Of course, we only need one salary anyway, so I'm not sure how hard he is looking now, LOL!

Make sure your nest egg is big enough to sustain you during the transition. Honestly, if I were you, I'd probably hold off on the land buying/house building thing until you have a good job & your husband's real estate career is starting to take off, just so you have the cash to get you through. The bigger the nest egg, the less 'desparate' you will be in the job interviews as well - you don't 'need' that job, and I think you can project that...of course, any company that is going to try to 'screw' you because they think you're desparate, that's not a company I'd want to work for....

Good luck to you! It can be done, but even though I'm encouraging about it, don't disregard the more negative advice, because, yes, there are pitfalls, and you need to do your homework!

ncgrrl Oct 25th, 2005 07:08 AM

Ok, more thought on the area real estate market. I don't know Charlotte, so I won't comment on that area.

Apex and Wake Forest have a good amount of build-up already. Holly Springs is getting a bunch (but also a landfill possibility) so I'd knock those off the list.

Fuquay and Garner, while further out from Raleigh has the land for development. I wouldn't want the commute, but others do. And if the person works in Raleigh, it's drivable.

Other areas to consider: Butner/Creedmoor/Stem in Granville County and Louisburg in Franklin County. Butner, Creedmoor, Stem have land and not as much traffic into RTP as those highway 55 towns you mentioned. I-85 still has some construction, but maybe one day it will finished (to the park from Granville it's either 85 south to Durham Freeway or 85 to 70 and over). These towns aren't too far from Durham for big box shopping (maybe 20 minutes).

I don't really know much about Louisburg but it does have a junior college so you could promote 'college town' living. You would probably have to go to Raleigh for most things.

Over the weekend I was in Raleigh and the sales guy I was dealing with commutes from Henderson (it must be an hour of driving). I not sure I recommend real estate that far out though.

Check out the newspapers online classifieds for job listings. If you're willing to work temp jobs, that will help pay the bills.

I'd agree about holding off buying land at the start because you might not end up with a job near the land.

Jaynee7283 Oct 27th, 2005 11:58 AM

Thanks for the additional comments, folks!

We will definitely have a nest egg available with the sale of our house in NJ. We plan on using 1/2 the money towards a house and the other 1/2 will go in the bank and supplement my eventual income as my husband grows his RE business. Based on our calculations (and my presumption of low pay based on ads I've seen online) we feel we can live somewhat normally for two years before feeling financially strapped. However, we hope that within those two years my husband's RE biz will have picked up substantially to help continue our life.

We are NOT moving and expecting to keep our current status quo. We've already calculated that our mortgage will be cut in half, but all other expenses (including day care) will remain the same cost.

As for job location - we still plan on buying land first. We don't want to "waste" any money renting in an area we end up not buying in - we want to have the land, builder and contract in place when we put our house on the market up here in NJ. Then we'll be able to rent in that same town and be close-by for the build.

This will also help me focus on jobs to look for. I don't mind long commutes (I currently drive 60 miles round trip for a total of 90 minutes on the road - and I've done LONGER commutes than that).

Keep the comments coming - they are helpful, to be sure!

SAnParis Oct 27th, 2005 12:28 PM

I am currently building a home & have been under contract since August...of 2004, I am hoping it will be done by Spring of 2006. It appears as though you are seeking a place to 'cash in' on buidling growth, as far as Charlotte goes, you're probably already several years too late. There is a ton of growth & development here, but Realtors are a dime a dozen.

SAnParis Oct 27th, 2005 12:29 PM

In short, in order for such a move to be successful, I believe the expectations have to be w/in reason as well as any goals attainable.

RBCal Oct 27th, 2005 12:44 PM

Have you considered Spartanburg or Greenville, SC? You can still buy a 3 bedroom house in that area for less than 100K.

Jaynee7283 Nov 14th, 2005 07:57 AM

Hello all! Wanted to give an update now that we are back from vacation.

We've decided that Fort Mill, SC is the place we need to be. We loved everything about that town and immediately felt that sense of "this is it" when we spent time there.

We are 90% sure that we'll build a spec home since there are so many subdivisions coming up in Fort Mill - it's just a matter of deciding which one we liked best (we visited 7 subdivisions while we were there).

As for my husband, we contacted a Fort Mill realty office and already made connections as far as him working down there - they were helpful and said they'd like for him to join the team upon our future move.

We visited several friends in Charlotte during the trip and all of them viewed my resume and feel I'd be able to find work quickly and without problem (thanks to their networking on my behalf and any recruiters I contact). It helps that I have friends in relatively high places down there).

We've decided to wait 10-12 months before taking the first step toward actually moving - since I just started a new job I'd like to have at least 1 year under my belt before moving.

Thanks for everyone's comments throughout our decisionmaking - they've been helpful and we referenced your comments many times during our trip last week - they helped hone our own thoughts and decisions, so for that I say thank you!

Gretchen Nov 14th, 2005 10:03 AM

I think Fort Mill is a pretty good fit. I didn't see this until today but I was going to suggest Huntersville/Mooresville area north of charlotte. REALLY growing and now that the highway has been widened, the commute into charlotte is not bad at all. You will have a similar advantage with I77 from FM. I think high level employment in charlotte will not be as difficult as some have implied, if your skills are good.

Jaynee7283 Nov 15th, 2005 10:41 AM

Gretchen, we did visit Huntersville/Davidson/Mooresville and felt that it wasn't right for us. Further investigation (and our visit to Fort Mill) solidified that feeling that H/D/M was not right.

As for job seeking, I'm confident because my skills are outstanding (if I do say so myself). I'm not one of those executive secretaries that rests on her laurels - I'm constantly adding to my skillset and actively getting involved in growing my position. At my new place of employment (I've been here since July) I've already become the "go to" girl for all things IT, software and marketing related - despite the fact that we have an IT department, a help desk and a marketing department. So I'm not worried at all about that aspect of moving down to NC/SC!

SAnParis Nov 17th, 2005 12:12 PM

topping

Passerby Dec 2nd, 2005 06:07 AM

Hi Jaynee, I think you’ve made a great choice with Fort Mill. My wife and I relocated to the Charlotte area a bit over a year ago (also from Northern NJ). We decided to rent for a while to get a sense of all surrounding areas before purchasing. In February we bought a place in Fort Mill (Baxter Village) and moved in when completed in July. Couldn’t be happier! I’m not sure if you’ve checked out Baxter (www.villageofbaxter.com), but you should! Our decision to move was a bit different than yours… largely looking to improve quality of life that was so lacking in Northern NJ. I had a job in hand before we made our move here, but will say that there are plenty of opportunities around Charlotte in your line of work.

I’ll offer a few suggestions:
• Start looking for employment BEFORE you move. You have to realize that the majority of people who live around Charlotte have also relocated here. To be in the midst of relocating is not necessarily a deterrent in the eyes of employers (in fact it seems to be the norm around here). Job seeking requires good timing. You might be able to find a job with a “gun to your head” after you move, but it may not be the perfect job.
• To better compete with local candidates in your profession, establish a local mailing address to use on your resume. This can be done at the UPS store or the like. Explain to interested employers that you are in “the midst of relocating”… and make yourself available for quality interviews on your own dime. The drive down-and-back is a cheap alternative to spur of the moment flights.
• If you find a great opportunity before you original moving timeframe, do not pass it up! Consider temporarily relocating before the rest of your family. Short-term rentals are extremely cheap compared to up north. I’ve seen this done numerous times and though there is some initial strain it can be well worth it in the long run.
• Keep up to date with developments in Fort Mill. The Fort Mill Times (www.fotmilltimes.com) and Rock Hill Herald (www.heraldonline.com) are good places to start.
• Be aware that new attendance zones have been set for the high school and middle school set to open next year. This may influence where you intend to buy within Fort Mill.
• Eliminate “you guys” from your vocabulary and start practicing “y’all”

Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

hazelra Dec 4th, 2005 01:14 AM

I have to say, I have been searching on information about relocation to North Carolina all over the web. These threads have been so helpful!! My husband and I decided to sell our over priced house in San Diego and take the plunge to NC. He is California native, so this is a big move for him. He is still searching for a job, it has been slow since he is an outsider. He is a software developer. We have job prospects between Raleigh and Charlotte. We have been to Charlotte, and LOVED IT. We are going to Raleigh this next weekend to check it out too. We found a great Steak place in Charlotte called Beef and Bottle on South ST. HOpefully we will hear something soon. I already have the house packed up! Just dont know which city will bite first. We are either going to rent for while here in San Diego and wait for his job, or split the family, and I move to NC. Dont know yet. I want to say thanks especailly to Gretchen for her posts. They have been so great for information about Charlotte. Thanks to all of you from North Carolina for your help with all these outsiders coming in.

Gretchen Dec 4th, 2005 03:10 AM

You are most welcome. Charlotte is a wonderful city. And your "find" of the Beef and Bottle is terrific. It is a Charlotte mainstay of MANY years--back when there was no liquor by the drink and steak houses were the ONLY place to eat. We've come a long way, baby. Try the Old Ranch House on Wilkinson for another old steak house. The B&B was featured in a Patricia Cornwell novel--she was from Charlotte, and whatever that book was was set in Charlotte.

cmcfong Dec 4th, 2005 04:30 AM

Jaynee, when you move to Fort Mill you should investigate the New Peach Stand off the exit for Tega Cay. It carries exceptional fruit and meat plus they make a world class milkshake. We frequently drive I-77 between our home in NC and Columbia. The stop at the New Peach Stand is obligatory!

Jaynee7283 Dec 12th, 2005 12:18 PM

Thanks for the additional info, y'all! =)

We're about to put an offer on some land in Fort Mill - we'll be going over the contract tomorrow make sure it's up to snuff and then overnighting the signed copy. We hope to close by the end of the month.

Passerby - thanks for the advice on relocating and finding a job. I'm fortunate that I have a friend who is a partner in a law firm and married to a doctor, and another friend who is in commercial real estate - all three have volunteered to pass around my resume around the time we plan on moving.

We have discussed the possibility of me relocating first, since we'll need an apartment when we get down there ANYway.

I've been reading "Fort Mill Times" online every week for the past year - already getting a good feel for the local atmosphere long before we took the trip down to see the town in person!


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