Relocating to Raleigh - HELP
Dec 5th, 2005, 08:15 AM
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Relocating to Raleigh - HELP
Young, professional 30ish couple..relocating to Raleigh, NC..no kids...3 dogs...want to be close to "happenings" and would love the ability to walk to many places...
Don't care if the house is new/old, etc...care more about the culture and the neighborhood...
Any and all suggestions of places to consider in Raleigh or surrounding areas are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your ideas...
Don't care if the house is new/old, etc...care more about the culture and the neighborhood...
Any and all suggestions of places to consider in Raleigh or surrounding areas are greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for your ideas...
Dec 7th, 2005, 01:18 PM
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2 words 5-points
An area near downtown. If you want to go outside of that, look inside the beltline, but 5-points or Hayes barton area is it Lived there for 8 years and it is exactly what you want. The independent movie theater is walking distant along with a few restaurants and coffee shops. The area around Cameron Village is also good but it all close. Might want to look at Mordicai or Oakwood....again all close to DT and the same area. Stay out of Cary and far North Raleigh if you want to meet your requirements. North Hills area is not bad as the new North Hills is now a decent destination but still not quite like closer in. In 5-points, when you get a knock on your door at 1:00am, you will know exactly what neighbor it is (they came over because they saw your light was on) and not where you go get your baseball bat because someone is at the door.......... Your neighbors of all ages will become your good friends
An area near downtown. If you want to go outside of that, look inside the beltline, but 5-points or Hayes barton area is it Lived there for 8 years and it is exactly what you want. The independent movie theater is walking distant along with a few restaurants and coffee shops. The area around Cameron Village is also good but it all close. Might want to look at Mordicai or Oakwood....again all close to DT and the same area. Stay out of Cary and far North Raleigh if you want to meet your requirements. North Hills area is not bad as the new North Hills is now a decent destination but still not quite like closer in. In 5-points, when you get a knock on your door at 1:00am, you will know exactly what neighbor it is (they came over because they saw your light was on) and not where you go get your baseball bat because someone is at the door.......... Your neighbors of all ages will become your good friends
Dec 7th, 2005, 01:20 PM
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let me rewrite the follow sentence from my post above...
"The area around Cameron Village is also good but it all close."
Change to ......The area around Cameron Village is also good and close to 5-points/Hayes Barton..........
"The area around Cameron Village is also good but it all close."
Change to ......The area around Cameron Village is also good and close to 5-points/Hayes Barton..........
Dec 8th, 2005, 05:15 AM
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Is you job in downtown Raleigh? Or is in RTP?
I don't know the area of Raleigh (SS, help please) but it's near the Raleigh Little Theater, close to Cameron Village and it doesn't seem to have too many student rental properties (didn't have 15 cars parked in the yard, etc.).
I guess I'd extend the area to around Quail Ridge shopping center.
However, I've never lived in Raleigh, these are areas I drive by and they look nice. The areas are older but there are some infill homes/townhomes.
If you end up in Durham or Chapel Hill, I have more experience with the neighborhoods there.
I don't know the area of Raleigh (SS, help please) but it's near the Raleigh Little Theater, close to Cameron Village and it doesn't seem to have too many student rental properties (didn't have 15 cars parked in the yard, etc.).
I guess I'd extend the area to around Quail Ridge shopping center.
However, I've never lived in Raleigh, these are areas I drive by and they look nice. The areas are older but there are some infill homes/townhomes.
If you end up in Durham or Chapel Hill, I have more experience with the neighborhoods there.
Dec 8th, 2005, 10:06 AM
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Yes, I include the Raleigh Little Theater area as around Peace street/Cameron Village area. ncgrrl, I think you meant Ridge Road Shopping Center (where Quail Ridge Books is). That is a good boundry. (Quail Ridge is actually another shopping center in North Raleigh where the book store used to be located at)
Dec 9th, 2005, 09:44 AM
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Yes, Quail Ridge Books is in Ridgewood Shopping Center off Ridge Road. "Quail Ridge Shopping Center" is off Falls of the Nuese Road, where the bookstore use to be. They just did not change their name when they moved.
Sorry Gran for excess posts here. Again, look at 5_points and then a good boundry would be Ridgewood Shopping center/Meridith College area to the west and work you way along wade ave through DT over to Mordicai and Oakwood.
Sorry Gran for excess posts here. Again, look at 5_points and then a good boundry would be Ridgewood Shopping center/Meridith College area to the west and work you way along wade ave through DT over to Mordicai and Oakwood.
Dec 9th, 2005, 11:07 AM
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Why is it that anytime there is ever any inclement weather in the South, Raleigh is always the worst hit?
If it sleets, Raleigh gets four inches of ice.
If it drops below freezing, in Raleigh it drops below zero.
If there is a light dusting of snow, Raleigh gets 15 inches.
If a hurricane hits the coast, it always moves to Raleigh causing massive power outages.
If it sleets, Raleigh gets four inches of ice.
If it drops below freezing, in Raleigh it drops below zero.
If there is a light dusting of snow, Raleigh gets 15 inches.
If a hurricane hits the coast, it always moves to Raleigh causing massive power outages.
Dec 9th, 2005, 11:16 AM
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GoTravel,
The local tv stations are based in Raleigh (or want to be based there) so they hype open the back door to the studio and film the weather. They might mention bad weather somewhere else in the viewing area and when it goes out on AP it's listed as a Raleigh dateline.
The boundary for the 'bad' weather is Roxboro, through Hillsborough towards Burlington. Roxboro has had snow already this year (Tuesday?) just a pretty coat that didn't last long.
Gran, if you pick a home in the area Subway has suggested, you can walk to most places. The Ridge Road shopping center and Cameron Village will have more than what you need.
The local tv stations are based in Raleigh (or want to be based there) so they hype open the back door to the studio and film the weather. They might mention bad weather somewhere else in the viewing area and when it goes out on AP it's listed as a Raleigh dateline.
The boundary for the 'bad' weather is Roxboro, through Hillsborough towards Burlington. Roxboro has had snow already this year (Tuesday?) just a pretty coat that didn't last long.
Gran, if you pick a home in the area Subway has suggested, you can walk to most places. The Ridge Road shopping center and Cameron Village will have more than what you need.
Dec 10th, 2005, 07:04 AM
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Five Points neighborhood sounds ideal for you. Charming, older homes with somewhat reasonable prices and will continue to appreciate in value.
Cameron Park- avoid this neighborhood. The homes are old and gorgeous. Beautiful old trees etc. The problem is all the homeless people that hang out in nearby Cameron Park shopping center and at the public library. They also sleep in the wooded parks nearby and will be knocking on your door all hours of the day and night, stealing off your front porch or vandalizing your cars.
Oakwood- similar problems to Cameron Park. Homes are even older than those in Cameron Park and very charming but the problem is poor neighbors adjacent to Oakwood. Anything left on your porch overnight or in your yard will be stolen.
Mordecai and Boylan Heights- similar problems- attractive, older homes but poor neighborhoods close by and vandalism.
Hayes Barton-very expensive but you can't go wrong here- anything you buy will appreciate in value.
Budleigh- beautiful neighborhood- might be slightly less expensive than Hayes Barton. Check out the homes off Oberlin Rd overlooking the rear of Glenwood Village Shopping Center (near Daniels Middle School).
Ridgewood- good base schools and attractive lots- homes will definitely appreciate in value here.
University Park- pretty neighborhood near NCSU but plagued by many rental properties and loud parties
North Hills- unattractive ranch style homes but reasonable prices and I agree this neighborhood is up and coming and might be a good investment.
Raleigh/Wake County is blessed with a good public school system- even if you never have children, good, strong schools are important for home values.
Don't let a realtor talk you into going to N Raleigh or Cary because you are a Yankee.
Look for an "inside the beltline" realty company- I can think of several but not sure if allowed to post the company names. Look in newspaper real estate listings and go with agencies that list the most homes inside the beltline.
Durham- avoid- high crime rate and iffy public school system.
Chapel Hill- expensive but a good investment.
Carrboro- cute town adjacent to Chapel Hill- lots of hippies. Check out Weaver St Market and the Carrboro Farmers Market on Saturdays- but I think it's closed in the winter.
Good luck. Climate is ideal except for sweltering summers.
Cameron Park- avoid this neighborhood. The homes are old and gorgeous. Beautiful old trees etc. The problem is all the homeless people that hang out in nearby Cameron Park shopping center and at the public library. They also sleep in the wooded parks nearby and will be knocking on your door all hours of the day and night, stealing off your front porch or vandalizing your cars.
Oakwood- similar problems to Cameron Park. Homes are even older than those in Cameron Park and very charming but the problem is poor neighbors adjacent to Oakwood. Anything left on your porch overnight or in your yard will be stolen.
Mordecai and Boylan Heights- similar problems- attractive, older homes but poor neighborhoods close by and vandalism.
Hayes Barton-very expensive but you can't go wrong here- anything you buy will appreciate in value.
Budleigh- beautiful neighborhood- might be slightly less expensive than Hayes Barton. Check out the homes off Oberlin Rd overlooking the rear of Glenwood Village Shopping Center (near Daniels Middle School).
Ridgewood- good base schools and attractive lots- homes will definitely appreciate in value here.
University Park- pretty neighborhood near NCSU but plagued by many rental properties and loud parties
North Hills- unattractive ranch style homes but reasonable prices and I agree this neighborhood is up and coming and might be a good investment.
Raleigh/Wake County is blessed with a good public school system- even if you never have children, good, strong schools are important for home values.
Don't let a realtor talk you into going to N Raleigh or Cary because you are a Yankee.
Look for an "inside the beltline" realty company- I can think of several but not sure if allowed to post the company names. Look in newspaper real estate listings and go with agencies that list the most homes inside the beltline.
Durham- avoid- high crime rate and iffy public school system.
Chapel Hill- expensive but a good investment.
Carrboro- cute town adjacent to Chapel Hill- lots of hippies. Check out Weaver St Market and the Carrboro Farmers Market on Saturdays- but I think it's closed in the winter.
Good luck. Climate is ideal except for sweltering summers.
Dec 10th, 2005, 07:37 AM
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PS- businesses you might want to check out while visiting to get a feel for the area:
*Moonlight Pizza- near Boylan Heights which I don't recommend but a young crowd and excellent pizza
*Glenwood Ave downtown near Hillsborough St- lots of restaurants and a lively scene at night
*Five Points- look at homes behind the Rialto theater on Glenwood.
Third Place Coffee House on Glenwood at Five Points.
*Hereghty Patisserie at Glenwood Village Shopping Center at the corner of Glenwood and Oberlin. Delicious pastries, espresso, soups and sandwiches.
I know someone with dogs who bought a condo in a former warehouse near the new Farmers Market. I'm not sure how well it will appreciate in value and I don't know about crime in this area.
Everyone who moves to this area loves it!
*Moonlight Pizza- near Boylan Heights which I don't recommend but a young crowd and excellent pizza
*Glenwood Ave downtown near Hillsborough St- lots of restaurants and a lively scene at night
*Five Points- look at homes behind the Rialto theater on Glenwood.
Third Place Coffee House on Glenwood at Five Points.
*Hereghty Patisserie at Glenwood Village Shopping Center at the corner of Glenwood and Oberlin. Delicious pastries, espresso, soups and sandwiches.
I know someone with dogs who bought a condo in a former warehouse near the new Farmers Market. I'm not sure how well it will appreciate in value and I don't know about crime in this area.
Everyone who moves to this area loves it!
Dec 12th, 2005, 08:45 AM
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Pinetree.....good info but I don't think that Cameron Park, Mordicai, Boylan Heights and Oackwood is as bad as you present. Yes, it is a in the city and urban and yes, things happen, but it is not like you can not leave your house as hoards of homeless people are roaming the streets. I walk many of these streets late at night and find most of the people are more scared of me than I am of them and I am very careful. And I am no criminal (Graduating from Grade 18 has kept me out of that line of work). Such is city life. Crime can happen anywhere and Raleigh is not as bad as other urban areas. You don't hear much about hard crime as you do petty theft. I wonder sometimes if some of that theft is not Jr High school kids looking for kicks. Many well established homes and people in these areas that live through this. And with 3 dogs, you will have the safest house in the neighborhood........
But do stay out of Cary and Far North Raleigh. You will not be happy with your reqirements
But do stay out of Cary and Far North Raleigh. You will not be happy with your reqirements
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Subway Scoundrel- I have to disagree with you. No woman wants to count on dogs for safety.
The info I've given is correct and is kept hush hush by homeowners in those neighborhoods because they don't want to see their property values plummet. Realtors are also aware of it but will not warn you.
We know two families in Oakwood and two in Cameron Park who fled because of the problems. They had beautiful homes and congenial neighbors and were disappointed to have to leave. Not being able to leave plants over night on a porch or property in the backyard is not my idea of a pleasant, secure neighborhood.
The last straw for some Oakwood friends was having their toddler grabbed at in a stroller.
Folks in Oakwood have a tight, friendly community but most with children opt to leave. The single women I know have elaborate plans for escape from potential break ins.
Living with fear after dark is no fun for a female.
My info on Cameron Park is also current. If you don't mind your car vandalized and the homeless knocking on your door every few days, then consider moving there. The homes are beautiful and nearby Cameron Village shopping center is delightful.
Better investments are Five Point/Hayes Barton- I recommend going to The Third Place for coffee to check out the scene.
Also good is Budleigh- go to Hereghty Patisserie and Ridgewood nieghborhood- check out the Whole Foods grocery store at Ridgewood Shopping Center.
Parts of Univ Park further away from NCSU and the rentals might also be OK.
Glenwood Ave near downtown is also booming with homes being converted to commercial properties- many attorneys have offices there because of proximity to downtown and the courthouse.
I'm not sure what that area is called but it might also be one they should consider.
The most important rule in real estate really is location.
Home values in good neighborhoods inside the beltline have quadrupled in the last 20 yrs. I see no reason to invest in a marginal neighborhood unless you have a pressing financial need and are oblivious to vandalism.
A recent article in the newspaper said twenty somethings are buying homes downtown- if you can get them super cheap and don't mind shaky security, it could be a good investment.
Whitaker Mill Rd near Wake Forest Rd also might be a good investment but is currently very unattractive.
The info I've given is correct and is kept hush hush by homeowners in those neighborhoods because they don't want to see their property values plummet. Realtors are also aware of it but will not warn you.
We know two families in Oakwood and two in Cameron Park who fled because of the problems. They had beautiful homes and congenial neighbors and were disappointed to have to leave. Not being able to leave plants over night on a porch or property in the backyard is not my idea of a pleasant, secure neighborhood.
The last straw for some Oakwood friends was having their toddler grabbed at in a stroller.
Folks in Oakwood have a tight, friendly community but most with children opt to leave. The single women I know have elaborate plans for escape from potential break ins.
Living with fear after dark is no fun for a female.
My info on Cameron Park is also current. If you don't mind your car vandalized and the homeless knocking on your door every few days, then consider moving there. The homes are beautiful and nearby Cameron Village shopping center is delightful.
Better investments are Five Point/Hayes Barton- I recommend going to The Third Place for coffee to check out the scene.
Also good is Budleigh- go to Hereghty Patisserie and Ridgewood nieghborhood- check out the Whole Foods grocery store at Ridgewood Shopping Center.
Parts of Univ Park further away from NCSU and the rentals might also be OK.
Glenwood Ave near downtown is also booming with homes being converted to commercial properties- many attorneys have offices there because of proximity to downtown and the courthouse.
I'm not sure what that area is called but it might also be one they should consider.
The most important rule in real estate really is location.
Home values in good neighborhoods inside the beltline have quadrupled in the last 20 yrs. I see no reason to invest in a marginal neighborhood unless you have a pressing financial need and are oblivious to vandalism.
A recent article in the newspaper said twenty somethings are buying homes downtown- if you can get them super cheap and don't mind shaky security, it could be a good investment.
Whitaker Mill Rd near Wake Forest Rd also might be a good investment but is currently very unattractive.
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You guys/gals are great! I am cutting and pasting your comments into word to print for reference on my visit.
By the way, I love Whole Foods! I am excited to see your post mentioning it; it appears that there is one close to the Five Points area.
I'm in Charlotte now...living in the ritzy suburb side of town and hating it. I looked at some real estate in the places mentioned online. It looks to be exactly what we are looking for in our next home.
Oh and the dogs...a Whippet, a Westie, and a Rat Terrier...not so much protection...
By the way, I love Whole Foods! I am excited to see your post mentioning it; it appears that there is one close to the Five Points area.
I'm in Charlotte now...living in the ritzy suburb side of town and hating it. I looked at some real estate in the places mentioned online. It looks to be exactly what we are looking for in our next home.
Oh and the dogs...a Whippet, a Westie, and a Rat Terrier...not so much protection...
