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emmynick Feb 26th, 2006 07:06 PM

Relocating to Long Beach, I think...
 
Relocating from Michigan to Long Beach, I believe. I will be working in Norwalk, husband will hopefully be working at Coca-Cola plant in Downey. Moving mid-April. Neither of us has ever been to Long Beach...I've never been to LA. I've seen a few posts regarding Long Beach (safe/unsafe areas) and some are now dated.

Looking for suggestions as to what areas would be good for us.....looking for rent less than $2000, we have two big dogs (golden retrievers) who are used to a large, 2 acre yard in the country, safe neighborhood, with parking (garage preferred). Any suggestions?

Would be interested in a loft rental as well...

Also, what kind of commute times are we looking at from LB to Norwalk and LB to Downey?

Thank you!!

emmynick Feb 26th, 2006 07:08 PM

Also, we have no kids, looking to live there for 1-2 years, and move somewhere that housing is more affordable!!!!!

emmynick Feb 26th, 2006 07:10 PM

Sorry, one more thing...not interested in high rises...prefer house w/yard or loft....any advice on which areas to look?

mireaux7 Feb 26th, 2006 07:14 PM

i would recommend housing close to belmont shore. the east side of long beach is generally better. or you may also want to look into signal hill, which is a community that is entirely within Long Beach.Seal Beach is nearby, and is a great community, Seal Beach is a little more laid back than Long Beach. Avoid North Long Beach, esp around Artesia and Paramount.

Cali Feb 26th, 2006 08:24 PM

The commute from Long Beach to both Norwalk or Downey should not be bad. Good luck on your move.

mlgb Feb 26th, 2006 11:08 PM

Unfortunately the real estate ads tend to mislead a little bit around here when placing their for-rent listings. Belmont Heights, e.g., keeps growing.

The Los Altos neighborhood of Long Beach has smaller homes with large yards and is safe. Prices should be within your budget.

Belmont Shore tends to have very small lots (eg 35 feet by 70 feet) and a lot of transient foot traffic. Fun for twenty-somethings but I don't think your dogs will do well there.

Single-family homes come up for rent in other little-known but friendly neighbhorhoods, such as California Heights.

Your commute will be very good from Long Beach. Actually, there are some nice neighborhoods in Downey, also.

rjw_lgb_ca Feb 27th, 2006 07:42 AM

Not a lot to add. The others have given a good overview of the housing scene in Long Beach. I will add:

-- Housing costs are beginning to stabilize, but they're still quite high. Houses for rent are relatively rare, so finding a house with yard will be a bit tough.

-- Loft living is limited to downtown Long Beach. This formerly run-down area is now really going through a revitalization attempt, and I have friends living La Vida Lofta very happily. The most-developed parts of downtown are bustling with new eateries, coffeehouses, shops, etc. Still, there are parts of downtown I would avoid.

-- Belmont Heights is a very desirable neighborhood (I own a condo there), and occasionally you will see houses for rent. They tend to be small bungalows, but some have nice yards. I used to say that north of 7th Street was not the safest area, but that part of town is cleaning up quickly. Still, the best parts are south of 7th and east of Temple.

-- Belmont Shore is a hoot, especially if you don't need a yard. But your requirements might kick it out of the running. A house with a sizable yard in BS will cost at least $1,000,000.

-- Los Altos and the neighborhoods around Eldorado Park (East LB) have an abundance of nice little homes with origins from the original 1950 suburban development of East Long Beach and Lakewood. Not a lot of rentals, but you never know. The market has softened only a bit-- a 1,400 square-foot home will set you back, on average, a little over $600,000. Big yards, however. I actually live here (my condo is being prepped for sale).

-- California Heights flies under the radar for nice neighborhoods. It's really nice there. Worth a look.

-- North Long Beach is indeed a bit dicey, but there's one oasis up there called Bixby Knolls, adjacent to a gorgeous golf course. Many houses there are in the $1,000,000+ range.

-- Other communities to look at besides the aforementioned Seal Beach (and Downey-- parts are quite nice) include Los Alamitos and Cerritos. Bedroom communities, basically, but quite livable.

-- Long Beach is a pretty nice place to live in, overall. I've got great neighbors (we actually do block parties!), everyone interacts happily in our diverse neighborhood.

Best of luck in your relocation!

emmynick Feb 27th, 2006 03:47 PM

Thank you all so much for your suggestions! I've heard a lot of the same things from people about communities and it makes me feel a little better hearing them from people who sound even more familiar with these areas.

Couple more questions...with comments saying the commute from LB to Downey and Norwalk are doable...any estimate on the time...are we talking 20 minutes or 45 minutes? I don't mind a commute, but just curious.

Any particular areas in Downey to look at?

I have to be out there mid April to start my new job. We're planning to pack up and move (with the majority of our belongings to follow several days later by moving truck). We plan to be out there mid-April. I'm thinking we will just drive out there and crash at a hotel for a few days and hit the pavement looking at rentals. Should we contact a realtor to help in this process, or go about it on our own. Also, any suggestions on an extended stay place that will accept pets?

It's amazing the info you learn from total strangers, but I sincerely appreciate the advice. This move has not been easy for me....and we're not even there yet......it's tough just trying to wrap things up on this end (i.e., our house still isn't sold....).

Thanks again!

mireaux7 Feb 27th, 2006 04:02 PM

it sounds like you are wanting to have everything convienently located close to you,.which is understandable, esp. in congested southern cali. here's the city of downey's offical website link that will also help you get familiarized with the area before you get there. http://www.downeyca.org/

emmynick Feb 27th, 2006 04:18 PM

It would be nice to have everything we need nearby, but I know it would be as smooth as I wish it could be...and I'm alright with that. It's just a big change and I'm still not convinced that uprooting all we know and all we are comfortable with is the right thing to do.

I've done a lot of research, but I think it's just a matter now, of just getting out there and doing the leg work. 'ppreciate your time and thoughts!

mlgb Feb 28th, 2006 08:42 AM

Generally, Downey north and east is the more expensive part of town. But it would be better to talk to a Downey "local."
You might want to check this link and PM the poster about neighbhorhoods.

http://www.lottaliving.com/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5737

Also here's an old LA Times Real estate section article (you might need to register to view it).

http://www.latimes.com/classified/re...,2227389.story

Good luck!

mlgb Feb 28th, 2006 09:27 AM

Temporary lodging options in Long Beach

Residence Inn

Extended Stay America

You'll have to check on the pet policy specifics, though.

Ignore any comments in Trip Advisor about "tough neighborhoods." They're both fine.

blinkygurl Feb 28th, 2006 02:23 PM

From Long Beach, commute time to Norwalk is between 10-15 mins freeway, no traffic. 20-30 mins, taking the sidestreets, depending on road conditions. It's not a bad commute at all. I love living in this area of LA county!!!!

blinkygurl Feb 28th, 2006 02:29 PM

Emmynick,

Long Beach, Cerritos, Artesia, Norwalk, Bellflower, Lakewood, and Downey are not bad areas. In any city, you have the bad side and the good side of the neighborhood, but the cities I've mentioned are generally good areas. (I live in one of them). Some people call the area the Central location of L.A. /Orange Counties because driving from any of these cities to any other LA (example: Glendale) and Orange County (Irvine) cities is not bad or far at all. Decent travel times to O.C. beaches.

emmynick Feb 28th, 2006 08:18 PM

Any thoughts on Newport and Broadway area in Long Beach? Found a weekly rental there...

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 1st, 2006 07:42 AM

That's my old neighborhood-- literally three blocks from my condo. Safe, mixed residential/commercial. Superb restaurant at that very corner called Lasher's (new American, served in a restored Craftsman Bungalow). A few bars in the surrounding blocks, but nothing unsavory (as I said, Long Beach is a diverse community, decidedly middly-class and unpretentious). A few blocks from the bluffs overlooking the ocean. Not as glamorous as Beverly Hills, but a great neighborhood, extremely desirable vis-à-vis real estate.

mlgb Mar 1st, 2006 08:22 AM

Nothing wrong with that neighborhood for a temporary rental, (although I like Cafe Piccolo a few blocks away better than Lasher's). There are several bars around the corner so not sure how quiet it would be long-term.

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 1st, 2006 10:22 AM

mlgb: No argument on Café Piccolo-- it's very good too. As long as we're naming great places on Broadway, Christy's is stellar (Northern Italian and superb) and only a couple of blocks east (Broadway between Miramar & Término).

Straddling the corner of Broadway and Redondo (one block west of Newport) are the Reno Room and Club Broadway (the latter a, er, Ladies' Club with tough clientèle and billiards), and just west of Newport is EJ Malloy's, a pub with food (I've heard their fish & chips are great). There's a coffeehouse called the Library across the street that gets a steady crowd into the evening (but they tend to be quite well-behaved).

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 1st, 2006 11:00 AM

I forgot to add-- I've certainly walked around the area a lot, and it's not particularly loud or boisterous. Once you're on the side streets, it's a calm residential neighborhood.

msmaria702 Mar 1st, 2006 11:10 AM

I used to live with my parents at the top of the hill in Signal Hill. We had wonderful neighbors, and a great view of the city. Its a great place to raise children!

mlgb Mar 1st, 2006 02:14 PM

I believe "The Library" used to be called "The Honey Bucket." It was rowdy then!

A friend lives around the corner in the neighborhoods, and it's nice there, just not sure how living right at that corner would be.

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 1st, 2006 02:26 PM

Honey Bucket? Oh lawdy...!!! Sounds like an interesting place.

There's a gourmet grocer right at that corner on Broadway called Olives-- a nice addition to the neighborhood. And the high-end card shop, Babcock & Cooke, offers a fine alternative to the usual Hallmark store.

mlgb Mar 1st, 2006 04:26 PM

Sounds like the neighborhood has turned the corner, rjw!

emmynick Mar 6th, 2006 06:03 PM

Found a great rental in Belmont Shores. Anyone familiar with the area around quincy between 1st and 2nd?

mrwunrfl Mar 6th, 2006 06:29 PM

I live in Seal Beach and love it. Moved here in Sept. from back east. My employer paid for a realtor to help me look for a rental but that was a total waste of time.

There is an Oakwood Apts in Seal Beach called Oakwood Long Beach Marina that is good for a short term rental (about $100 to $110 per day for a furnished 1 br).

The section of Seal Beach that is west of the PCH (California route 1) is called old town. It's a great place to live though you will probably have trouble finding a place with a yard.

The best way to find a place is to drive around the neighborhood looking for For Rent signs. Property owners here don't have to put ads in the paper or hire a realtor.

lynnejoel1015 Mar 6th, 2006 06:39 PM

Speaking from experience, it's hard to find places for rent in Southern California that allow dogs- especially big dogs- and especially two of them. We have a greyhound (~ 60 lbs) and it was all but impossible!

That said, Long Beach is an "up and coming" area. Becoming trendy. Could mean a rise in rental prices.

I have friends in Long Beach and they say it's safe and enjoyable. I think your commute would be ok. You might also consider Torrance. Good area.

Go to www.craigslist.org and click Los Angeles and search "Long Beach" under apartments for rent. You could also try www.westsiderentals.com. Both excellent sources for the renter-to-be in SoCal.

Good luck!

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 7th, 2006 07:41 AM

emmynick, I'm VERY familiar with that area. I had an apartment on Ocean just a block west of Quincy. It's a mixed house-apartment area, lots of Cal State Long Beach students, lots of young people, and lots of wealthy homeowners with beautiful, tiny, tidy beach bungalows.

Quick walk to the fun stuff on Second Street. Restaurants, little shops, bars and clubs all around there. A new little-plates joint called Biggs (look for a piece of paper with "BIGGS" in large letters taped to the wall-- the owner has an odd sense of humor) is THE hotspot in Long Beach right now; don't mock, it's getting a bit of buzz among foodies up in LA.

You did really well with that area. Hopefully the rental will be nice!!

mlgb Mar 7th, 2006 07:47 AM

Oakwood won't rent to dogs, just cats, I think. Torrance would not be a good commute.

Belmont Shore is okay, but as I mentioned there is a lot of pedestrian traffic from the bars and restaurants, going to their cars parked on the neighborhood streets, well into the night (my "friend" lived there for many years). Parking is difficult and many places do not come with parking included.

rjw_lgb_ca Mar 7th, 2006 07:54 AM

What mlgb says is all true, unfortunately. I did forget about the parking-- there were many times that my truck was three blocks from me (but boy oh boy was I a king at parallel-parking!!). Ask about the off-street parking situation (rare, but you can find rentals with this).

Otherwise, I still say it's a fun neighborhood. People were always really friendly when I lived there.

SoCalMichelle Mar 9th, 2006 08:42 PM

Good luck in the move, if I can my two cents. It piqued my interest when you mentioned that you had two Golden Retrievers for I have three dogs ranging in size from a 90 pound Black Lab, to a 50 pound Yellow Lab and I cannot tell you just how difficult it was to find a house that 1) allowed dogs, 2)had a decent size lot with a good sized yard in a nice neighborhood.

It nearly took two years and the only reason we came upon this place is because a friend at my husband's work, his parents were looking for another good tenant for their home and hadn't put in an ad. I've lived in Southern CA all my life (30 years) and it just seems harder and harder to find a place that will allow dogs that won't require a very large security deposit on top of the customary first and last month's rent. At any rate, good luck! :)

Sincerely, Michelle.

SoCalMichelle Mar 9th, 2006 08:55 PM

oh, I also wanted to add that what everyone said is very helpful to me as well, for I am considering a move to Long Beach (going there for some graduate courses) or some outlying area. However, in my search I haven't come across anyone who has allowed dogs (only been looking for 3 months so far), so in a way all this information gained here is irrelevant if the "pet" situation wasn't such a factor.



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