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HappyTrvlr Dec 3rd, 2013 07:18 AM

I have driven a lot of this route in winter and want you to be aware of bad driving conditions, especially ice, as you travel.
Check each states highway conditions report and take alternative routes as needed.
Dogs are not allowed in Sabino Canyon or at Seven Falls. There is a lot of wildlife and I wouldn't taking my dog even if it were allowed. Same for Saguaro NP.

dulciusexasperis Dec 3rd, 2013 08:39 AM

A comment re the state of Oklahoma. I drove across Interstate 40 a few months ago and not ONE rest stop was open across the entire state.

You can of course find a restroom if you get off the highway but I found it a bit annoying that every rest stop shown on my GPS turned out to be closed. When you gotta pee, yah gotta pee. Seems Oklahoma is either real short of money or doesn't care about travellers in their state.

Contrast that to Iowa which has some of the best rest stops I've ever seen. In fact, I'd give them first place but I can't say how every other state compares these days.

Iowa has some new rest stops that are each individually educational. One on the Underground Railroad, another on Wind farms, etc.

Have to add one comment re "Yuma has the lowest elevation". That may be so but Yuma is about the last place I would ever visit by choice. It has one redeeming feature besides warm weather, it's about the cheapest place for 'snowbirds' to park their RV for the winter. Consequently, you see mile after mile of RV parks. It's just not a place I would spend valuable vacation time in. No offense intended Tomfuller but have you been there before?

spirobulldog Dec 3rd, 2013 02:46 PM

We don't pee in Oklahoma.

I don't think that many of them are closed. The ones in Oklahoma do seem to be outdated more than most states.



The dogs will really really really put a damper on what you can see/do. You can probably scratch all of my list and starrs list too.

HappyTrvlr Dec 3rd, 2013 02:46 PM

Yuma does not make my list of places to visit in Arizona either.

maribethp Dec 3rd, 2013 04:47 PM

We visited Acadia and walked all over the place with the dogs on leash. Is the no dogs a recent ruling?

DebitNM Dec 3rd, 2013 04:54 PM

Each park has it's own rules re: dogs. It seems many here in southwest do not allow them. You would need to check each one you are interested in visiting.

maribethp Dec 3rd, 2013 05:32 PM

Best one- grand canyon.

lauramsgarden Dec 3rd, 2013 06:14 PM

If you do go from Santa Fe to the canyon, please stop off here in the Four Corners (Farmington) we have wonderful ancient ruins, beautiful scenery and awesome mexican food!

starrs Dec 4th, 2013 01:54 AM

The Grand Canyon South Rim offers kennels. The other parks may as well.

spirobulldog Dec 4th, 2013 03:20 AM

I just looked at the NPS website. The only park that I know of that really allows dogs is The Great Sand Dunes. Well, now I know two parks. Acadia does allow pets on a lot of the trails.

Most of the parks allow pets in very very few places and absolutely never on trails.


If you do go to several National Parks. Buy a National Park Pass. Or better yet, if you are a senior, then buy a Senior Pass

dulciusexasperis Dec 4th, 2013 08:07 AM

Spirobulldog, ALL of them on Interstate 40 were closed when I drove across a couple of months ago. The only exception was right at both the east and west state borders.

Maribethp, dog owners never seem to understand that dogs are not always welcome everywhere. I happen to like dogs although I am not a dog owner but I most definitely do not think dogs should be allowed in a national park.

A national park is by definition a wild area. A dog is both a predator and prey for wildlife. Since the park is there to provide a safe and protected area for the wildlife, then it should be clear what the priority will be. The wildlife's interests trump your (the human dog owner) interests. Simple as that.

It is not discriminating against dogs or dog owners, it is protecting the wildlife first and coincidently also protecting your dog and your life as well. But you and the dog are secondary.

http://usparks.about.com/library/weekly/aa042598.htm

So the question I would ask you is do you want to visit national parks or do you want to visit places where a dog is allowed? Given your interest in natural wonders and hiking, you have a problem. As already noted above, the dogs will severely limit your ability to visit national parks.

You can't leave them at your hotel or in your car (I'm sure you know why that's a bad idea). So it's find a kennel every time (and pay for it) or drive on by.

What surprises me is that you are not already aware of the restrictions travelling with pets impose. Even hotels often do not allow dogs. Are you relatively new to travelling?

ElendilPickle Dec 4th, 2013 10:45 AM

>>If you want to drive a section of the old US 66 in New Mexico, it will have to be between Seligman (se- LIG - man) and Kingman north of I-40. I-40 covers the old route except for this section.<<

These towns are in Arizona.

You can drive parts of old Route 66 in New Mexico. Some of it has been replaced by I-40 and I-25, but there are bits in Tucumcari, Santa Rosa, Santa Fe, and Albuquerque, to name a few places. The section from Santa Rosa to Santa Fe would be pretty if the weather is good; otherwise, stick to I-40.
http://www.historic66.com/new-mexico/det-nm2.html

Lee Ann

santafestyle Dec 14th, 2013 11:34 AM

First, check out http://www.dogfriendly.com/ -- should be helpful!

Route 66: What is it about Rt. 66 that interests you? You can still see some of the decrepit old motels along Central Avenue in Albuquerque, but as someone wrote, it's pretty depressing!

Alternative to I-40: Go further south to I-10. Texas did get some ice and snow, but it's a whole lot less likely than on 40. Stops could include the hill country towns around Austin, Alpine and Fort Davis historic towns, Marfa, where the whole town has been turned into a kind of art installation. NYT has a piece on Amarillo this week, I believe, so maybe there's something to relieve the dreariness of that stretch after all.

NM has a Spaceport now --I think you can still reserve seats on Virgin Galactic's second trip into space (first is sold out at $200k a ticket.) Silver City is an old mining town getting duded up like Santa Fe (maybe like it was 50 years ago), and is probably the nearest worthwhile place to stay. Truth or Consequences has hot springs (its old name) would be next on my list.

It's definitely worth the drive north in New Mexico to stop in Santa Fe -- more to do in and around our small (dog-loving) city than most places in the U.S., indoors and outdoors.

Great bird-watching just south of Albuquerque on I-25: Bosque del Apache National Wildlife Refuge.

Check newmexico.org for the Green Chile Cheeseburger Trail.

Arizona: Meteor Cave on I-40 is worth the walk. Petrified Forest has been denuded of so much fossilized wood by tourists, it's almost unrecognizable to anyone who was there long ago, but it's still worth the driving loop.

The fairly recently discovered Kartcher Caves are out of the way on the southern third of NM-AZ border, but are reputed to be even more spectacular than Carlsbad.

Have a fabulous trip!

santafestyle Dec 16th, 2013 05:27 AM

I misremembered where the article about the attractions of Amarillo -- not the NYT, but here: http://www.dreamplango.com/showcase/...o-cow-town-wow


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