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LordBalfor Feb 12th, 2004 11:12 AM

Opening windows/balconies in Vegas Hotels?
 
Do any of the main strip hotels in Vegas have windows that open and/or balconies?

Specifically interested in finding out about Mirage, TI, and Mote Carlo.

Ken

ChristieP Feb 12th, 2004 11:20 AM

Monte Carlo windows DO NOT open. (BTDT) I think I recall hearing that the ones at Barbary Coast do open. Check www.cheapovegas.com to be sure.

beachpup Feb 12th, 2004 11:28 AM

Bally's.

Tansy Feb 12th, 2004 12:14 PM

Mirage windows have a sign that says "Do not open, alarm will sound." However, you CAN open them, and NO alarm will sound.
I've stayed there for four years and opened the windows each and every time. My stomach does a little flip flop each time, but so far, no alarm bells.

help Feb 12th, 2004 01:39 PM

I know that the Imperial Palace doors open onto a little patio...call and ask if the others do they have 800 #'s...

Patrick Feb 12th, 2004 02:29 PM

Refresh my memory. The big fire at Bally's where all the people were killed when Bally's was called -----?
Wasnt' part of the big issue the fact that windows didn't open?

GoTravel Feb 12th, 2004 02:33 PM

Patrick, are you sure that fire wasn't at the MGM?

Windows opening would be a fire hazard. Oxegyn is fuel for fires and is what causes many deaths.

Scarlett Feb 12th, 2004 02:37 PM


And someone who just lost everything at the tables might jump.

Tansy Feb 12th, 2004 02:58 PM

I must admit that one year, my friend and I got tipsy and tried to throw things into the white tiger area. Their area is open at the top and our room was above it, to the left. We'd stick our arms out the window and fling beef jerky and dinner rolls.

I'm sure there is a net at the top of the aperture, but it sure was fun.

Ah, Vegas. It brings out the immature brat in all of us.

Patrick Feb 12th, 2004 03:34 PM

Go Travel, yes, I think you are right. But it was the old MGM Grand that after the fire became Bally's. Then they built the new MGM Grand. Isn't that right??? I know the fire was in 1980, and I believe at that time what is now Bally's was the MGM Grand. The new one was built a few years later.

simpsonc510 Feb 12th, 2004 05:30 PM

I believe you are correct. The fire was at MGM, which was then rebuilt into Bally's. Wasn't there also a fire at the Hilton? I think it might have been before the MGM fire???

travleis Feb 12th, 2004 05:45 PM

The above is correct:

"The second-largest loss-of-life hotel fire in United States history took place on November 21, 1980, at the 26-story MGM Grand Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas, Nevada. This fire, which killed 85 people and injured almost 700, provided a wake-up call for the industry to improve fire safety standards in hotels around the country.

The fire scene at the MGM was grim. The blaze began with an electrical ground fault in a wall soffit in the first-floor deli that resulted when the uninsulated wires of a refrigeration unit were stretched and rubbed as the unit vibrated.

Once the fire ignited, it quickly traveled to the ceiling and the giant air-circulation system above the casino. In the casino, flames fed on flammable furnishings, including wall coverings, PVC piping, glue, fixtures, and even the mirrors on the walls, which were made of plastic. The fire burned undetected for hours until it flashed over just after 7 a.m. and began spreading at a rate of 19 feet (5.8 meters) per second through the casino.

About 5,000 people were in the resort when the blaze started to burn in earnest. Many were trapped in their rooms. (Most of those who died succumbed to inhalation of poisonous gases drawn to the upper floors through the ventilation system).

The investigation determined that the rapid fire spread was due to a series of installation and building design flaws.
To make matters worse, fire marshals had insisted sprinklers be installed in the casino during the building's construction in 1972, but the hotel refused to pay for the $192,000 system, and a Clark County building official sided with the resort (the word 'payoff' has many connotations in Las Vegas). Authorities later said the sprinkler system could have prevented the disaster at the hotel, <<which is now Bally's Las Vegas Hilton Casino Resort>>.

Patrick Feb 12th, 2004 06:16 PM

Thanks for finding that, travleis. I remember the incident well, and had in the back of my mind hearing about people trying to break the windows so they could breathe, but they couldn't break them and then died. I remember a story of how some picked up chairs and lamps and threw them at the windows trying to break them, but couldn't. And of course, the windows wouldn't open at all.


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