One by Land Two By Sea
Oct 29th, 2004, 06:21 AM
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Favorite Italian that is pricey: Da Silvano on 6th Avenue. A known celebrity hangout that doesn't really have an attitude. Really great Osso Buco.
Moderate Priced Italian: Petrosino on Norfolk at Houston Street (lower east side.) Good Tuscan food, great service, some interesting combinations.
Moderate Priced Italian: Petrosino on Norfolk at Houston Street (lower east side.) Good Tuscan food, great service, some interesting combinations.
Oct 29th, 2004, 07:09 AM
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Staying in New York Helmsley on 42nd nr 2/3rd Avenue - Thanks for comments so far ! Price Range up to $100 or so incl wine for two in Italian - I know One by Land in excess of that but that's budget for other nights ! Also - any Italian's with live music ?
One by Land sounds great - any other favorite romantic locations at $100-125?
One by Land sounds great - any other favorite romantic locations at $100-125?
Oct 29th, 2004, 08:00 AM
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Be prepared to pay a lot of $$. We went there for our anniversary in May and the bill came to $350.00. Luckily we had a $250.00 gift card, so we splurged a little by ordering a bottle of champagne, the cheapest on the list was $65.00 and after dinner drinks $12.00 each. So be careful, it adds up quickly. It was very romantic and the food was good. Personally, I had better food in New Orleans for a fraction of the cost. But, it's worth at least one visit. Afterwards, take a walk around that area, there are lots of interesting little shops.
Nov 11th, 2004, 05:06 AM
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For an Italian with music, I haven't been yet but have heard about La Scatolina in the village. Supposedly good food and music most nights. Tues. night is evidently open mike night with "would be" stars.
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Nov 18th, 2004, 02:20 PM
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One if by.....is very nice, BUT ver stuffy. The food is great, but to me it reminds me of a 1970's restaurant. I know everyone has their own opinion, but this is how I feel about it. We went there a few years ago on our anniversary, but like I said stuffy.
MY FAVORITE ITALIAN is anything owned by Mario Batali.
LUPA........BABBO........OTTO (pizza, cheeses, etc).......and ESCA..(Esca is primarily seafood)
His restaurants are fabulous. The food is so unique and you will definately feel like you are in Italy. Another amazing Italian restaurant is FELIDIA. (The owner, Lidia Bastianich's son is partners with Mario Batali...so you could imagine how spectacular the food is!)
Have fun!
MY FAVORITE ITALIAN is anything owned by Mario Batali.
LUPA........BABBO........OTTO (pizza, cheeses, etc).......and ESCA..(Esca is primarily seafood)
His restaurants are fabulous. The food is so unique and you will definately feel like you are in Italy. Another amazing Italian restaurant is FELIDIA. (The owner, Lidia Bastianich's son is partners with Mario Batali...so you could imagine how spectacular the food is!)
Have fun!
Nov 18th, 2004, 07:00 PM
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If you seach this site you will find a very heated thread or two about OFBLTBS.
If you knock on our door and ask my husband about this restaurant he will have you arrested. He still thinks we got jacked, robbed and hoodwinked at this restaurant.
I, on the other hand found the place to be decent for food, not anywhere near close to being dollar for value. It has had its better days.
Our party had an unfortunate incident with the Somilier(wine guy) that was utterly ridiculous. Wine Guy was a liar and then tried to turn it on us...wrong move. One in our party is in the wine and food industry and is quite "respected" so this went from bad to worse. Our friend is "common Joe" presentation while we travel. No one knows nor should they who he is. He is very thick skinned, has to be, and in all of our years I have never heard him curse. He was cussing that night. He got "wine and dining profiled" and crap hit the fan. Can't tell you any more least we both vanish for good.
After much "get me so-in-so" and all that the wine guy disappeared...was displaced...for the evening and our waiter proceeded to try and make up for everything which led to him doing waaayyy too much and ruining our dinner with too many apologies, dishes, wines and yuck-yuck!
We all got sincere follow up letters, certificates and can have a party for 25 any time we want. Do not repeat that. They will deny it too. We donated the party to a charity for their auction...years ago...it's done and the place is not bad. One monkey don't spoil the show.
If you knock on our door and ask my husband about this restaurant he will have you arrested. He still thinks we got jacked, robbed and hoodwinked at this restaurant.
I, on the other hand found the place to be decent for food, not anywhere near close to being dollar for value. It has had its better days.
Our party had an unfortunate incident with the Somilier(wine guy) that was utterly ridiculous. Wine Guy was a liar and then tried to turn it on us...wrong move. One in our party is in the wine and food industry and is quite "respected" so this went from bad to worse. Our friend is "common Joe" presentation while we travel. No one knows nor should they who he is. He is very thick skinned, has to be, and in all of our years I have never heard him curse. He was cussing that night. He got "wine and dining profiled" and crap hit the fan. Can't tell you any more least we both vanish for good.
After much "get me so-in-so" and all that the wine guy disappeared...was displaced...for the evening and our waiter proceeded to try and make up for everything which led to him doing waaayyy too much and ruining our dinner with too many apologies, dishes, wines and yuck-yuck!
We all got sincere follow up letters, certificates and can have a party for 25 any time we want. Do not repeat that. They will deny it too. We donated the party to a charity for their auction...years ago...it's done and the place is not bad. One monkey don't spoil the show.
Nov 19th, 2004, 05:59 PM
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My favorite Italian restaurant is IL Cortile on Mulberry Street in Little Italy.
http://www.ilcortile.com/
http://www.ilcortile.com/
Nov 22nd, 2004, 11:42 AM
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Verdette:
The terminology means that the person did not fit the stereotypical "anglo-male" with attached desirable social attributes hence, the man was treated as if he was dumb as a brick and had never drank a thing beyond what the corner liquor store sold.
In short he was treated badly, talked way down too and assumed to be a complete idiot simply because he did not look like 95% of the diners that night.
This happens a lot when when dine with them. Some high brow, top ranked dining places will defer to me or my hubby for their decisions because they think our friends are...I don't know. I don't know what racist people think but, it ain;t good, fair or right!
Sad thing is they are world travelers many times over, have a killer wine cellars, are the most unassuming folks you could meet and they rule in the industry.
Many times he says when he meets folks whom he has done business with their mouths fly open and they will ask him "Well, where is the winemaker?" It is him!!!
This he states only happens in the USA. Business people abroad, in every continent, have never treated him with such shock, disrespect, racism, etc. like many of those at every level in the USA.
It is amazing that from the cab,parking lot, valet, receptionist, hostess, server, waiter, waitress...and on up to restaurant owner has been delved out some form of "wine and dining profiling" most of it purely...racial.
I hope this helps and for those who doubt my assessments know that my professional work has involved extensive diversity/tolerance training for major corporations, executives, boards, government agencies, non-profit organizations and more.
Peace, happy dining and Happy Thanksgiving...I am off!
The terminology means that the person did not fit the stereotypical "anglo-male" with attached desirable social attributes hence, the man was treated as if he was dumb as a brick and had never drank a thing beyond what the corner liquor store sold.
In short he was treated badly, talked way down too and assumed to be a complete idiot simply because he did not look like 95% of the diners that night.
This happens a lot when when dine with them. Some high brow, top ranked dining places will defer to me or my hubby for their decisions because they think our friends are...I don't know. I don't know what racist people think but, it ain;t good, fair or right!
Sad thing is they are world travelers many times over, have a killer wine cellars, are the most unassuming folks you could meet and they rule in the industry.
Many times he says when he meets folks whom he has done business with their mouths fly open and they will ask him "Well, where is the winemaker?" It is him!!!
This he states only happens in the USA. Business people abroad, in every continent, have never treated him with such shock, disrespect, racism, etc. like many of those at every level in the USA.
It is amazing that from the cab,parking lot, valet, receptionist, hostess, server, waiter, waitress...and on up to restaurant owner has been delved out some form of "wine and dining profiling" most of it purely...racial.
I hope this helps and for those who doubt my assessments know that my professional work has involved extensive diversity/tolerance training for major corporations, executives, boards, government agencies, non-profit organizations and more.
Peace, happy dining and Happy Thanksgiving...I am off!
