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mollychris Feb 5th, 2009 08:10 AM

NYC trip with Girl Scouts
 
My girl scout troop is thinking about planning a trip to NYC. There are 3 girls in the troop; they are 15-16 years old. We know we want to see a Yankees game, and a Broadway show. Do you have any recommendations?

jnet56 Feb 5th, 2009 09:19 AM

good luck on the Yankee tickets they will be expensive!!For a broadway show try Wicked, Momma Mia Hairspray. The statute of Liberty is good and the bodies down near the seaport is great too. Walking in times square or chinatown and little Itay for dinner will be fun too. Lots of museums.

nytraveler Feb 5th, 2009 09:24 AM

For Yankees tickets you should watch their web site and buy them as the day they go on sale - if you want a decent selection in the less expensive seats.

You don;t say when you're coming - are you sure the Yankees are in town?

For discount Broadway show tickets go to Broadwaybox.com to see who has discounts on advance sale tickets.

And when you say "we" how many of you are there total? And how long do you plan on being in the city?

(You're not thinking about a day trip are you? And, assuming not a place to stay should be your first order of business.)

Aduchamp1 Feb 5th, 2009 09:30 AM

I would not eat in Little Italy. You might as well introduce the girls to better Italian food.

When you are walking around town here are some palces they might like:


Bakeries
Amy’s Bread
Various Locations
The breads are well prepared and my favorite is the black sesame. I have never seen the same kid behind the counter twice, thus the staff is not knowledgeable and some seem confused by an order.

*Balthazar
80 Spring Street
I guess they could have made the space smaller, but then only your hand would fit through the door. Unlike the restaurant, the bakery deserves the praise for their baguettes and croissants.

Birdbath
223 First Avenue
Yes, it is a stupid name and the place has all the charm of a company store at a gulag but it is a sister to City Bakery. They make fabulous almost everything including a pretzel croissant. They only offer about 10% of what can be had at the City Bakery and there is no place to sit and eat. Stay away from a new creation a vegan banana sesame thing with agave. Besides having no taste, it dryly crumbs in your mouth. A rare mistake for Maury Rubin. The staff here and at City Bakery has not been told that space program was discontinued.

Blackhound
170 Second Ave
Very expensive but good as a dessert gift. The cookies are delicious and everything looks tempting some things are not as good as they look.

*Blue Ribbon Market
14 Bedford Street
There is not a bad bread in the house. They are made across the street at Blue Ribbon Bakery, where you can see the ovens on the basement. (They also have a interesting bathroom.)
Pick anything.

*Bouley Bakery
130 W. Broadway
Every time I go there I try something different. My current favorite is the saffron bread. It is so delicate you can taste the saffron. Everything is outrageously expensive you can either pay your student loan or buy a slice of cake.

*Clinton Street Bakery
4 Clinton Street
Not only is this bakery but a great place for brunch which is impossible to enter on weekends. They may make the best biscuits in town followed closely by their scones.

*City Bakery
3 West 18th Street
Try the hot chocolate melted from chocolate bars or the pretzel croissants or the baker’s muffins or anything laid out on the counter. Extremely crowded at breakfast and lunch. Celebrities have been spotted but unless they are disguised as spoon I have not seen any.

DeRobertis (Established 1904)
176 First Avenue
It has the original tin ceiling and tiled walls and floors. Be selective in what you order, order nothing chocolate but the lobster tails, cannoli, and pignoli cookies are good and they are known for their lemon and orange things. (I am sure it has a real name) They hollow out the fruit, then fill it with a sorbet and freeze the whole thing including a peel lid.

*Donut Plant
379 Grand Street
I do not know what they do but the donuts taste so much better than just about any other place. He also makes excellent churros. The valrhona chocolate is a monument to gluttony. Small storefront with bakery in back.

Eileen’s Cheesecake
17 Cleveland Place
That’s all she makes so she better make them well. Not the best but very good.

*Falai Paneterria
79 Clinton Street
Former pastry chef turns out the most delectable and eclectic breads such as pumpkin or fennel. The croissants are excellent. I guess his mother told him not to waste his education so he also makes fabulous pastries. Never leave without a bombolini, an Italian donut/fritter filled with either jelly or crème.

Fat Witch Brownies
Chelsea Market
They make the fudgy type and they have a few variations. Staff is pleasant but sloooow. They have tourist buses that stop at Chelsea Market, so the lines may be long at times.

*Financier
Various locations
In the food wasteland that is Wall Street, Financier knows how to make cakes and croissants. They are often crowded but the staff doesn’t know ganache or panache.

Junior’s
Various locations
Stick to the cheesecake and the rolls.

*La Bergamonte
169 Ninth Avenue
For many years this was in the middle of food nowhere. Now with the Chelsea Market and the fattening of the Meatpacking district is getting its due. Extremely fine croissants and pastries and a place to sit

Le Pain Quotidien
Various locations
A chain from Belgian which makes it Belch. The baguettes are wonderful as are the brownies and raisin whole grain bread. This is probably the best food of any chain. The staff however, is laconic and unknowledgeable and very often there are out of many of the popular items. Nice brunches.

*Little Pie Company
Various locations
Their sour cream apple walnut pie is akin to crack cocaine but only a little cheaper. The other pies are good but not in the same category. People start lining up for Thanksgiving on 4th of July, so order in advance.

Patisserie Claude
187 West Fourth Street
Patisserie Claude has been selling pastries to Pig Warren for a long time. We do not go often by when we do we are rewarded.

*Payard’s Patisserie
1032 Lexington Ave
Everything is well made and delectable, particularly the truffles. Never had a pastry that disappointed. They also have a dining area inhabited by ladies who lunch and seemingly never go home.

*S & S Cheesecake
222 W 238 St, Bronx
Could be the best cheesecake in the city, creamy but not dense, perfect,

Steve’s Authentic Key Lime Pies
204-207 Van Dyke Street, Red Hook
This is place is hard to find when you are standing in front it. Fortunately the silky pies can be found at Citarella and other self-defined fine stores.

*Sullivan Street Bakery
533 W 47th Street
You have probably eaten there breads many times and didn’t know it. It is offered in scores of restaurants and markets. You can identify many of the breads by sight. They are brown and crusty will the inside is light and airy. A paradigm for carbs.

*Veniero’s
342 East 11th Street
Established in 1894 some of those people are still waiting on line. I love this place, the best inexpensive tiramisu, addictive ricotta cheesecake, moist pignoli cookies, there are scores of offerings and no losers. The take out staff is never the same and the lines are long for the café. For Thanksgiving and Christmas, the café is turned to a waiting room for take out. They use an old fashioned machine to wrap the string around the box, while quaint, adds to the interminable line. You can also call in an order.

N.B. You can take your cupcake fight outside. We have tried many but a winner has yet to be named.

Candy and Chocolates

*Economy Candy (Established 1934)
108 Rivington Street
I am not sure they make anything on premises but they do have every candy still in production at very good prices. If you are a fan of candy stores, you will want to be buried here.

Evelyn’s Hand Dipped Chocolates
4 John Street
The best value for hand made chocolate in NY. It is clearly not the best, but most candy is made by hand and Evelyn can be seen slipping in and out from behind the counter. The cost is a fraction of the top notch candy stores. This is the type of place you find in a quaint town with quaint people. This 9/11 survivor should be supported.

*Jacques Torres Chocolates
Various Locations
For some reason people know the Brooklyn location better than the one on Hudson Street. Their truffles are exquisite as are all the chocolates and the hot chocolate. The lines are extraordinary on Valentine’s Day.

*Kee’s
80 Thompson Street
Kee was a banker or a lawyer before she started making the best truffles in NYC. Some are Asian influenced each variety is better than the next. This is a must stop for chocolate cuckoos.

*Teuscher
Various locations
Truffles are flown in from Switzerland. I once bought some for a chocolate loving friend who about to get married. While eating the truffles, this modest woman was made sounds that are usually reserved for her husband. Although she was completely embarrassed, I knew I bought the right gift.

There are many chocolate stores in midtown that make exceptional products but I have not enough experience to add them to the list. These include Richart, Maison du Cholat, and Pierre Marcolini. Just turn your pockets inside out for a taste.


Ice Cream

*Cones
272 Bleecker Street
In 1986 an Israeli newspaper sent a reporter to cover the NY Mets in the World Series because they heard there was a David Cone. He isn’t related to this place either. Sweet creamy, fresh ingredients with many varieties. Many tourists happen upon it when eating at John’s Pizzeria.

*Australia
Various Locations
You will not believe this is a chain. The ice cream and truffles are rich and creamy and taste freshly made. Be sure to have the hot chocolate. The take their chocolate ice cream, add a little milk and then melt it by using the steam attachment on the cappuccino machine. Silky is the only word.

*Chinatown Ice Cream Factory
65 Bayard Street
Store made ice cream which for wimps offers vanilla and chocolate since they also serve flavors like green tea, lichee nut, and my favorite almond cookie. The kids behind the counter are always nice. There is no better way to end a meal in Chinatown. Inexpensive but cash only.

*Il Laboratorio de Gelato
95 Orchard Street
Everybody claims their gelati is the same as in Italy, blah, blah, blah. Their gelati is like Italy. It is the type you eat four times a day as you walk around Rome or Florence before you realize you have ruined your appetite for dinner. Expensive and cash only.

Sundaes and Cones
95 East 10th Street
They have nothing to do with just Cones and is a shade below, But if you are in the neighborhood, the store made ice cream is creamy and offer interesting flavors.


mclaurie Feb 5th, 2009 09:59 AM

You've gotten some great information but I'd ask you, what kind of recommendations do you want? Where are you from? Do you need help with transportation advice? Hotels? Are you on a tight budget? Many shows are offered on discount. broadwaybox.com is one place to look for discounts (left column) but you could also join http://tdf.org/TDF_ServicePage.aspx?id=59&%20do=v and get even bigger discounts to certain things. Assuming you live further than 100 miles away, you join as a National Member.

I highly recommend the show "In the Heights" for your group and it's been discounted recently.

Goldstar.com is another website that offers some great discounts on lots of different things with free membership.

Are the girls interested in anything in particular?

mollychris Feb 5th, 2009 06:45 PM

We are from North Carolina and we are thinking of taking Amtrak up to NYC. Our troop has two leaders. We would be arriving at Penn Station. Is that centrally located? Any ideas on an economical and nice-on-a-budget hotel? We will be there for 4 days and 3 nights. How could we best spend our time? Thanks!

Aduchamp1 Feb 5th, 2009 06:58 PM

Penn Station is an easy cab ride or subway to most tourist hotels.

I suggest you buy A Fodor's NYC 2009. There you can see what may be of interest to all and then you can ask some more specific questions.

Make it a troop project to decide where to go then we can help hone your itinerary,

janisj Feb 5th, 2009 07:47 PM

&quot;<i>Any ideas on an economical and nice-on-a-budget hotel?</i>&quot;

What is your budget? There is not much &quot;budget but nice&quot; accommodation in NYC compared to rates in most other parts of the country.

ellenem Feb 6th, 2009 05:16 AM

mollychirs,

So, 2 adult leaders, 3 teens, 3 nights.

When do you hope to visit NYC? Hotel prices vary depending on the season.

It would be helpful also to know what you &quot;budget&quot; is per person--an actual number.

Cringo Feb 6th, 2009 07:02 AM

Stomp is another show (off-broadway) that the girls might enjoy. You can also look at ilovenytheater.com, google season of savings (NY discounts) and consider the TKTS booths.

Penn Station is centrally located. I agree -- get a NYC guidebook for ideas as well as a map.

mollychris Feb 6th, 2009 07:54 AM

Thanks for replying. We were wanting to all stay in one hotel room, as we thought that would be more fun, and would save us money. However, I can't seem to find a hotel that lets 5 people stay in one room. Do you have any ideas?

mclaurie Feb 6th, 2009 08:04 AM

You have to give us an idea of what you want to spend on a hotel and when you're thinking of coming. Prices fluctuate by season/month. We also need to know how many rooms you expect to get. There are some suite hotels where you could all stay together.

mclaurie Feb 6th, 2009 08:06 AM

It may be fun but 5 of you sharing a bathroom. Think about it...

affinia.com
radiocityapartments.com
nycsalisbury.com
Murray Hill East Suites
Best Western Hospitality
Doubletree Guest Suites Times Square
Embassy Suites (includes full breakfast)
Newton Hotel

nytraveler Feb 6th, 2009 09:40 AM

Five people can't stay in one room in NYC - it's against fire laws. For 5 people you have to get a suite.

Best bargain is probably Radio City Apartments, centrally located and VERY inexpensive for NYC. Or you can look at the afinia group - which has several hotels and whole variety of room configurations for different numbers of people/beds.

And prices vary very much be date - from Nov through Christmas hotels will be twice what they are in Jan/Feb. Most of the summer is a sort of middle rate.

mollychris Feb 8th, 2009 09:44 AM

Thanks for all the advice. I looked at Radio City Apartments. They seem nice and are at a good location. Next week, we are going to purchase a Fodors NYC guidebook. I'm sure we will get lots of ideas from it. I was wondering if you could recommend something to do/ somewhere to go while we're there. We were thinking a Yankees game, Broadway show, and Statue of Liberty.

ellenem Feb 8th, 2009 10:02 AM

Molly,

WHEN do you plan to visit NYC? What month? We can make better recommendations if we knew this.

ksbeem Feb 8th, 2009 12:41 PM

We needed a suite when we went to NYC with kids and in-laws. We ended up staying at the Residence Inn in East Rutherford, NJ. There's a Fairfield Inn there, too.

I was skeptical, but it worked out great. The hotels are on the bus line -- I mean, you literally walk outside the hotel, and there's the stop. IT's an express bus, so it took 15 minutes to get to the Port Authority. My kids loved it and felt very cool.

Yes, we had to stay in the city all day, but we were so busy that we wouldn't have gone back to the hotel anyway. And when we did, there was lots of room and a swimming pool. Plus the Residence Inn has a kitchenette; we had our own food for breakfast, which saved $$$.

Staying out of the city will be so much cheaper. And I think, with the ages of your girls, that they can handle it.


nytraveler Feb 8th, 2009 04:26 PM

It seems a shame to go all the way to NYC to experience a city and then spend so much time trekking to and from a suburb.

mollychris Feb 8th, 2009 05:00 PM

We're thinking of going in June.

mollychris Feb 8th, 2009 05:11 PM

Has anyone ever stayed at the Salisbury Hotel? We are thinking about making reservations there.


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