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Kathysa Feb 29th, 2008 04:34 PM

NYC hotel for 4
 
We're planning to take our 2 kids for a quick visit (2 days at the end of April) to NYC and plan to see Museum of Natural History, Empire State Building, and maybe catch the Blue Man Group. I've been reading other posts on hotels that accommodate 4, but I need help with location recommendations. The kids are good at walking, so we don't have to be right next door to any one thing. The Lucerne, Affinia 50, Doubletree Suites, and The Salisbury all sound good. Is the Museum of Natural History too far to walk if we end up by Times Square? Or, should we try to stay up in that area?
Thanks.

Brookside Feb 29th, 2008 06:07 PM

With a family you are probably better off w/ either the Affinia 50 or the Doubletree. The Lucerne is nice enough, and it's in the UWS, but I understand the rooms are quite small; you likely would need 2. I've heard good and bad about the Salisbury. The location is wonderful - MTW and very close to just about everything -- Central park, Times Square, shopping and subway, and the rooms are large, but the decor is rather worn and tired.

I've stayed at the Affinia 50 and like it very much. Great MTE location (near the Waldorf), spacious rooms with kitchenettes, close to many restaurants and 5th Ave shopping, subway nearby. Great service!

The Doubletree is in the heart of Times Square and your kids might enjoy the hustle and bustle. I've never stayed there, so can't really comment on rooms, etc.

Have fun!

deedeezee Feb 29th, 2008 07:26 PM

I think there is another Doubletree near 51 & Lexington. The rooms were SMALL, beds great, very noisy and crowded bar scene when I stayed there.

I love the East Side Midtown and almost always stay there either at Waldorf or East Side Marriott...both within 3 blocks of the Doubletree and on subway line. Both have some very large rooms. History museum is up around 80th, I think, but you could check out the uptown bus. I know it's a tourist trap, but I love to take people to Carmine's at 45 (?) and Broadway for Italian, family style dinners served New York Style with brassy waiters and lots of great bread.

Have a ball!

Kathysa Mar 1st, 2008 04:20 AM

Thanks. I'll compare Doubletree, Affinia 50, the Waldorf, and the east side Marriott to see which has a better rate. I'll use the Salisbury as a fall-back. I wasn't sure if any of those hotels were within walking distance of the Museum of Natural History. If it's a nice day, we'd like to walk through Central Park, maybe check out the zoo and it looks like (I might be wrong) that we could walk through Central Park on our way to the museum.

Anonymous Mar 1st, 2008 05:17 AM

Well, only you an decide whether you have the stamina to walk to the MNH from any particular spot, especially since we don't know whether your kids are toddlers or teens.

In NYC, the streets (east/west) run about 20 per mile so it's very easy to estimate north/south distances. Central Park is about a half-mile wide.

cabovacation Mar 1st, 2008 08:52 AM

I stayed at the Salisbury last summer and it was such a perfect location and the rooms are really huge. We were two adults and two teenagers.

Friends were there over Thanksgiving and they had five rooms...and they said the rooms were remodeled and really nice.

It is a friendly hotel and great for kids. They have a sort of continental breakfast with lots of fruits, bagels, yogurt, oatmeal, etc. Very pleasant dining room and definitely saves you a bundle$$

nytraveler Mar 1st, 2008 09:11 AM

I wouldn't walk from Times Square to the Museum of Natural History - it's about 2 miles - when you're already going to be doing so much walking in the Museum. You can just hop on the Broadway local subway at 42 st and get off at 79th St for the Museum.

But - I disagree about staying in Times Square. The upper west side is much more kid friendly - right near Central Park as well as Natural History and the Met (they would probably love the Egyptian Department and perhaps arms & armor). It also has tons of neighborhood restaurants that are good and inexpensive/moderate and used to families. (While those in Times Square tend to be overpriced chain places - or more upscale).

There are lots of hotels in the area - some with larger rooms with mini kitchens. As well as the Lucerne look at On the Ave, the Beacon, Excelsior etc.

Separately, do Top of the Rock instead of the Empire State Building. You can get advance timed tickets for TOTR - and you won;t have the interminable waiting lines you do at Empire State Building.

BudgetQueen Mar 1st, 2008 09:44 AM

I was just in NYC with my nephews last week. I do like staying near Times Square and the subway access to everywhere is excellent. Nice for shows too.

I have stayed many times at the Super 8. Easy to book a room then cancel if something else comes up. But a long time ago, I found out they constantly change prices, starting out high and dropping.

So it pays for me, to book each night separately then cancel and rebook when the rate drops. It ended up $430 with taxes for 3 nights, free breakfast and great location.

I also took them to Top of the Rock, great for the timed entry, but I do like the Empire State Building the best. :) However the night view is my favorite and a late entry- 11pm or later has little line. :)

BudgetQueen Mar 1st, 2008 09:47 AM

The B/C subway stop at 81st is the Museum of Natural History, even a lower access direct to the museum.

Went there last week too. Then continued by subway to a great diner in Harlem for a late lunch.

Kathysa Mar 1st, 2008 10:47 AM

Thanks for all the help. I'm re-thinking the Salisbury now. Our primary reason for the quick trip is the Museum of Natural History so we may try to stay in that area. Since the kids haven't been to the Empire State Building, we thought we'd try to squeeze that in too, but I need to check out the Top of the Rock (I'm embarrassed to say I have no idea what that is:) ). I'll check out the Super8 near Times Square too.

doug_stallings Mar 1st, 2008 02:37 PM

Kathy, I don't think you should worry about staying at the Salisbury just because your main reason to go to NYC is the Natural History Museum. Transportation in NYC is very very easy by subway (or even by taxi if you want the expense). The Upper West Side is a relatively residential neighborhood, but there are relatively few (though some) hotel options to stay near the museum. You'd also have easy access to Central Park up there, but, frankly, little else. If you want to walk around a lot, I'd suggest staying somewhere OTHER than the Upper West Side or Time Square. It's more convenient to stay in Murray Hill (perhaps the Affinia Dumont), where you are pretty central and don't have to rely on the subway for everything.

But your plans are going to take you all over the city, so there's never going to be a single place that's convenient to everything. I'm not sure if that helps, but I do tend to find the Upper West Side somewhat less convenient to most of the other tourist sights in town (other than the museum and Central Park).

KTtravel Mar 1st, 2008 03:33 PM

Kathysa,

Playing devil's advocate here.

My family of 4 stayed at the Lucerne and were very happy there. For a quick trip, you should have plenty of room, particularly if your kids are on the younger side.

No matter where you stay, you probably will be relying on the subway system just to get from place to place and, most likely, won't be spending too much time at the hotel.

Good luck with your decision and have a fun trip!

swidd Mar 1st, 2008 05:32 PM

I would recommend the Roosevelt Hotel which is located on 45 East 45th Street. It is a easy walk to Central Park and Times Square. We stayed there with our 2 children and found it enjoyable.

www.theroosevelthotel.com

Kathysa Mar 2nd, 2008 08:09 AM

Thanks.
It is going to be a quick trip with our "must do" being the Museum of Natural History. The kids are 12 and 9, so old enough to walk places. I'll check out some of the other hotels mentioned. I'm thinking it's going to come down to whichever hotel I can get the best rate, and still be in a nice place. Thanks for all the advice.

deedeezee Mar 2nd, 2008 04:27 PM

Hotel rates have really shot up in NYC and may be tough to get a good rate. I have used priceline many times with excellent results. Would you consider that?

dmlove Mar 2nd, 2008 04:43 PM

Priceline is not really an option if you need one room for 4 people - they only guarantee rooms for two, and in NYC, where many rooms aren't big enough for more, the hotel could you get through priceline could very well not be able to accommodate a party of four in one room. It's risky anywhere, but almost impossible in NYC.

GoTravel Mar 2nd, 2008 05:01 PM

Do not even think about priceline unless you are willing to get two rooms.

Salisbury is an excellent idea and the very best located of your choices.

You can easily walk to the Museum of Natural History from there.

It is also a couple of blocks to Central Park, Rockefeller Center, Times Square, Fifth Avenue and a lot of other things.

GoTravel Mar 2nd, 2008 05:04 PM

Forgot to add that it is very close to a bunch of different subway lines.

maryanne1 Mar 2nd, 2008 06:19 PM

Look at the Hampton Inn on 50th. Very good for families with children. Breakfast is included. Central Park within walking distance. Your kids would enjoy the small zoo within the park. The penquins are not to be missed. Subway stop a block away that gets you right to the museum.
We stayed at this hotel before Christmas and it was great for us.

cabovacation Mar 2nd, 2008 07:43 PM

I don't think you can beat the room size at Salisbury - but you do have to ask for a suite - and they probably book up fast.

Kathysa Mar 3rd, 2008 06:03 AM

The Salisbury keeps coming up so I'm leaning toward that. However, I see that Le Parker Meridien (looks like it must be close to the Salisbury) has a rate of $255 per night (not including taxes) which is lower than the Salisbury and pretty low in general for that area. It doesn't get great reviews on tripadvisor though, so I'm wondering if anyone has stayed there. We're hoping to stay around $300 per night.

Mambo_ Mar 3rd, 2008 08:02 AM

The Embassy Suites is a great choice for your family, and its usually around $300. You'll have plenty of room, with a bedroom and a front room with sofa sleeper. Best thing-- two TVs so you don't have to watch weird cable with the teens! And an amazing full breakfast buffet included. It's by the Statue of Liberty, Ground Zero, and Wall Street, though, so you'd need transit to get uptown.
:)>-

cabovacation Mar 3rd, 2008 08:07 AM

Le Parker Meridien is across the street from the Salisbury. It would depend on the size of the rooms in each place - and the best price, of course.

Definitely go to the Parker for the burgers!!!! Your kids will be delighted.

Brookside Mar 4th, 2008 02:41 PM

Brookside again -- :)

I've stayed at the Parker Meridian. Decent service, great breakfast at Norma's. Lovely lobby. Rooms are nice enough, in a trendy, IKEA-type way. Not sure if the rooms would be large enough for your family, though -- our king room was very small; tiny closet was curtained (rather than a door) and counter space in bath was minimal. I *loved* the location, though, and would stay there again if I could get it for $255 per night.

flit Mar 5th, 2008 11:43 AM

I would agree with KTtravel. My daughter and I stayed at the Lucerne last Oct and I'm taking my son back in a couple of weeks and we are staying there again. It is a quiet hotel very close to the museum. There's a nice breakfast place across the street and a wonderful ice cream shop that we were tempted by two nights also across the street. The subway is just down the block which makes it very easy to get to Times Square or other tourist spots without having to stay there. We enjoyed being in the neighborhood and walking around and not being mobbed by the crowds like we were used to in the TS area.

GoTravel Mar 5th, 2008 02:31 PM

Kathysa, are you comparing apples to apples?

Le Parker Meridian is a much nicer hotel than The Salisbury and some of the upper floors have views of Central Park.

However, I would not choose a standard room at Le Parker Meridian over a one bedroom at The Salisbury.

If you stay at The Salisbury, you should walk across the street to Le Parker Meridian and have a burger at The Burger Joint.


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