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stardust101 Jun 20th, 2012 07:54 AM

New York City Itinerary Advice
 
I am going to New York City at the end of June with my 16 year old daughter and need advice on activities and itinerary. This is her first time in NYC. We will be there for 3 and a half days and are staying at the affinia 50 hotel. So far here is what we want to do:

Empire state building (I know it has long lines, but as it is her first time in NYC she really wants to go...)
Statue of liberty - It is closed so we will take some sort of boat trip to see it, I am not sure which though. The beast speedboat looks like fun, but otherwise we will do the staten Island ferry, which do you think?
Explore soho, china town and LIttle Italy
Times square - M&M store, toys r us etc.
Grand central station
Central park - maybe a bike ride
Lots of shopping - she is a shopaholic!
A broadway show
Serendipity
And possibly a museum - maybe the tenenement museum, AMNH or the Met, which would you recommend?
Also I am wondering if we should do some sort of tour on the first full day as this will allow us to see a lot of the city

Are there any must sees I have missed, or anything that we should skip?

I am not really sure how to group these together but I have a bit of a rough plan:

Thursday - arrive at about 2, check in at the hotel etc.
Grand Central
Times square
ESB (depending on how tired we are after the flight)

Friday - Ghost in the evening

Saturday - Staten Island ferry in the morning (if we do it)
Lunch in little italy
Explore soho and china town

Sunday - we have the whole day as I am going to work in New Jersey after, so we can leave when we want

Sorry it's so long, any thoughts and help on creating a plan would be greatly appreciated!

vjpblovesitaly Jun 20th, 2012 08:01 AM

The three museums you listed are completely different from each other. Each is good in its own genre and you should really decide what type of museum you want. I think the Tenement Museum is great because I have a personal interest in immigrant life in NYC but someone who doesn't would have less (or no) reason to go there.

My understanding is that the bikes have to stay on designated paths in Central Park which gives you less of a chance to explore the park (unless you get off, lock it up and walk) but I may be mistaken. Walking Central Park combined with the Metropolitan Museum of Art of the Museum of Natural History, should you choose to go to one of them, would make sense.

travelbuff Jun 20th, 2012 08:13 AM

WLCOME TO NYC!!! Sounds like you guys are going to have a great time.

First grab a map of the city so in your planning you have some ideas of where things are so you can see more and travel less.

The City is FULL and I mean FULL, (we may tip over, if everyone walks to one side of the island) of tourists right now. I was walking in Times Square the other day and it was WALLTOWALLTOWALL..PEOPLE.

Your first day, you can see the ESB from everywhere, but you will waste ALOT OF TIME just waiting to get to the top FORGETABOUTIT. Go to top of the Rock instead, timed tickets and GREAT view, and no waiting (sh,,,,,we don't tell all the tourists about it), from there walk to Times Square and then down to Herald Square for some SHOPPING.

Your daughter will love Daffy's across from Macy's and at 16, she will LOVE Conway (34th between 7th and 8th, and 7th between 34th and 35th), jeans there $10 and tees $3, tops, shirts, and all things for kids for school and your budget stays intact. There's also alot of stores on 34th like Forever 21, H&M, Express. There's also a new DSW and a Famous Footware so she can get shoes to match the new outfits, lol.

Ok back to touring, The Staten Island Ferry would be a nice way to start your Saturday and then walk up Broadway, and see Wall St. Trinity Church, World Trade Center and Memorial, stop at Century 21 and around that area for more shopping, then walk up toward City Hall on Boadway and make SURE you stop at St. Paul's Chapel, for the 9/11 remembrance.

From there head up to Canal St, and turn right walk over to Chinatown and have lunch in Chinatown and desert in Little Italy. (2 fav places on Mott St - Mandarin Ct. (dim sum) or Peking Duck House (for peking duck of course)).

From there wander up through SoHo to The Village and stop and see NYU and Washington Square Park, and presto you have seen most of downtown.

Sunday you might do Central Park or stop at The Met for a couple of hours.

Hope this helps, have a GREAT time.

doug_stallings Jun 20th, 2012 09:04 AM

If you really absolutely must go to the Empire State Building, buy your tickets in advance .... today. You'll be able to bypass some of the lines that way. But I agree with all others who will tell you that Top of the Rock is a much better view and a much better experience.

I'd urge you not to have lunch in Little Italy but do the Lower East Side instead. Check out Meatball Shop on Stanton, or just have lunch in Chinatown (Congee Bowery or Congee Village are good, among many good options). If you do want to eat in Little Italy, then the best place is Torrisi Italian Specialities, though it's pretty expensive. The streetside pasta joints are mostly blah. So you eat there at your own risk.

The Staten Island ferry is your best bet for a view of the Statue of Liberty.

stardust101 Jun 20th, 2012 09:32 AM

Vjpblovesitaly - Thanks for telling me about cycling in central park, we will wander around instead

Travelbuff - thanks for all that advice, that was really helpful! I can now suprise her with my knowledge of shopping in NYC! By the first day did you mean friday? :L

Thank you doug as well, I will try to talk her to her about the empire state building, but I think that she feels it has to be done at least once. Also we won't eat in little italy we will do as Travelbuff suggested and get lunch in china town and desert in little italy, so that way she can still get to eat there. Or maybe do dinner there and lunch in the lower east side.

doug_stallings Jun 20th, 2012 10:09 AM

Actually, I'd recommend il laboratorio del gelato for dessert, but it's also in the Lower East Side on Ludlow, so perhaps do that on the same day you eat lunch on the Lower East Side, if you choose to do that. A lot of people also like Katz's for deli food, and all these places are near the Tenement Museum, one of my favorite places. I'm not sure if that's your daughter's kind of thing, but if she's into history, then that might be the one museum to visit since it's more experiential and close to good food and shopping. Economy Candy is also nearby.

There are some undistinguished gelato shops on Mulberry, so if you really want to eat there you can without any problems. But I actually like Ferrara Bakery & Cafe on Grand. It's an old Little Italy place back when Little Italy was an actual neighborhood and not just a tacky tourist street. It's a tad expensive, but traditional. Though again, you can get similar, better pastries at Veneiro's and better gelato in a lot of places.

stardust101 Jun 20th, 2012 12:34 PM

Thankyou, I had read about il laboratorio del gelato on this sit somewhere but I completely forgot! I will have to remember to write all of these suggestions down :)

Also I have another question, my daughter has decided that she doesn't want to go to museums while in nyc as "they've got them in london". Lol. So what can I pair with central park on either friday or sunday?

doug_stallings Jun 20th, 2012 12:51 PM

You can rent bicycles near Columbus Circle entrance, you can go to the zoo, you can visit the Conservatory Garden (really beautiful if she's into that), you can rent a rowboat at the Boathouse, you can visit the castle, you can look at the statues, you can take a bicycle rickshaw ride, or you can take a horse and carriage ride, though the latter is really really expensive. There's enough to do in Central Park that you can spend 2 whole days there. There are also miles of walking paths. Of course, this all depends on how hot it is, but there's also a lot of shade and plenty of vendors selling food and drinks.

And near the 5th Avenue/59th Street entrance is our giant 24-hour Apple Store, which is also across the street from the Plaza Hotel for a quick walk-by.

SueNYC Jun 21st, 2012 04:20 AM

There are 2 museums bordering the park that actually deal with NYC history - The Museum of the City of NY and the NY Historical Society (I know these do not exist in London). Also , while I know you have a zillion churches in the UK, the Cathedral of St John the Divine is a distinctly NY take on the concept.

http://thestarryeye.typepad.com/expl...ul-winter.html

Like many posh hotels, the Church has just gotten into the bee keeping business as well!

Bowsprit Jun 21st, 2012 04:54 AM

All of London is a museum.

Re. NYC: You'd miss nothing if you skipped Serendipity.

I think bicycling in Central Park is an exercise for the brave and bold. Pedestrians don't watch out for bikes and the 'professional' bicyclists don't watch out for anybody. Some of their bikes don't have brakes. It's potentially much more trouble than it's worth.

Try talking her into going to Top Of The Rock. She can see the Empire State Building from there. The entire experience is superior to that of the ESB.

If you can get her to one museum, I'd consider the Museum of Modern Art. London's Tate Modern doesn't come close. At all. Different animal.

Bowsprit Jun 21st, 2012 04:56 AM

All of the Tenement Museum tours are wonderful. The city is jam packed; buy your tickets online to avoid disappointment.

travelbuff Jun 21st, 2012 07:03 AM

Get your daughter a book on NYC and let her pick some things she wants to see, easy fix to "I don't want to do museums".

I'd also second the idea of the Central Park Zoo, or you might try a subway ride up to the Bronx Zoo.

If she is shopped out, how about a day at the beach, try LIRR (that's Long Island Rail Road) out to Fire Island for a day just to relax, and enjoy one of the best beaches in the US.

travelbuff Jun 21st, 2012 07:08 AM

BTW, I was waiting for a bus yesterday (50th and 3rd) and looked up and there was the sign for the Affinia 50. A good area for exploring, a few shops in the area, a deli or a hundred, lol. The uptown bus stops right there, and you are a couple of blocks from the Lex Ave subway.

Also a great new restaurant right there, Italian (which is why I was in the area) called DA NOI, 49th just off 3rd. The food was GREAT and I loved the little garden seating.

panecott Jun 21st, 2012 05:42 PM

stardust, if your daughter wants to go to the ESB, then by all means go, and don't try to talk her out of it. It is a NYC icon and the lines are not that long -- and they do move!

It's very nice for people who live here and can do both at any time to tell you to go to the TOTR, but I'm sure your daughter wants the experience of going up to the ESB at least as much as the views, so let her go.

Bowsprit Jun 21st, 2012 05:49 PM

panecott: What, in your opinion, is so wonderful about the experience of going up to the top of the ESB?

stardust: If you go to the ESB, buy your tickets in advance or you could be waiting on line forever.

(16 years old might be a little young still, to run the show, panecott.)

stardust101 Jun 21st, 2012 11:19 PM

Thank you for all the tips and comments everyone!

Bowsprit - "16 years old might be a little young still, to run the show" haha yes I agree, however I forgot to mention that this trip is for her as it is her 16th birthday and she will have just finished exams when we leave (16 exams!) DD is used to travelling with her 3 younger brothers, so I think she is enjoying being able to 'run the show' for a change ;)

Re. ESB we have decided to do it as that is what DD wants, we have bought tickets online so should be able to skip some of the queue! Next time we will definitely do TOTR though

We will try and get central park zoo in at some point, she would love that! Thank you for the suggestion :) Also I think we will skip the cycling (thanks bowsprit), although we did manage to cycle through the traffic in london last summer!

Travelbuff - It's good to hear that our hotel is in such a good location, and we will definitely check out the italian restuarant you suggested.

Bowsprit Jun 22nd, 2012 01:43 AM

London cycling is like a day in the park compared to C.P. cycling. Watch out for the cyclists as you are walking through Central Park, they stop for No One.

Enjoy the ESB and Happy Birthday wishes to your DD. Have a great time.

POMAH Jun 22nd, 2012 06:26 PM

A)I've never heard anyone recommend Conway before. Love it? Ahem, dont the poster realize he is advising money here?
Conway is a closeout shop, most clothing is defective, or returns, or open box, etc.
I say if you iz money then stick to Macy's, GAP, H&M, TJ Max, Target, Bloomies, etc.

B)If you are game, take her June 23 to Coney Island to see drunk people parade around half (or totally) naked.

C)go to planetarium to see the 3D show;

D)go to the NYC aquarium

E)go to Strawberry Fields, say hell to Gary "The Mayor", and hear him tell tall tales of his friendship with Yoko Ono; a woman he's never in fact met.
Oh, he's got this cool story of a business proposal with Yoko to market the shrine, and ifcourse make money from it, which this drunkard wanted to split profits 50/50 with her.

F)go to the WTC site and hear tall tales from vendors of the photos of 9/11 of how _they_ took those snap shots.
Yes, they claim >they< took those shots!

G)Tenement museum? huh? go to Bushwick, Coney Island, East NY, Flatbush, South Bronx, Hollis etc. and see real life misery. Druggies, prostitues as young as 14, gangs, shootings, homeless, etc.

Before the boardwalk was filled with sand underneath, there was a whole lot of freaky stuff going on down there.


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