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New York by Neighborhood (also Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens) - please help!

New York by Neighborhood (also Bronx, Brooklyn, and Queens) - please help!

Nov 10th, 2009, 02:56 PM
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Oh - and I don't want you to think I have anything against Queens. I was born there - and lived there until I was 11 - but in a purely residential area. there are some pretty parks where they had the 1939 and 1964 World's Fair - and Flushing is an interesting ethnic area - but still little to see compared to Manhattan - and every thing very spred out - often hard to get around without a car.
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Nov 10th, 2009, 03:36 PM
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don't think that at all nytraveler. i appreciate your input and understand you were comparing to manhattan. so is there an area in flushing or astoria that you would recommend?

we like any cuisine but for that evening, maybe not chinese. thinking maybe either italian, japanese, even indian? It would be great if it had a nice, maybe romantic atmosphere? I saw vai but they have a pre fixe for that evening. maybe something like that for atmosphere?

again, thanks for all the suggestions!
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Nov 10th, 2009, 04:38 PM
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Things to do in Brooklyn near (somewhat) the bridge in the winter:
Check out the boutiques along Atlantic Ave

Walk along the Promenade in Brooklyn Heights, then walk down the hill to DUMBO (check out the Brooklyn Flea which will be indoors), then on to the bridge (chose the route carefully to avoid crossing in scary traffic)

Dinner in Park Slope: Al di La, Applewood, Frannys, take a stroll down 5th ave after dinner (very easy to hail taxis and close to all major trains at Atlantic Ave)
Dinner on Smith Street: Saul, Po

Check out Williamsburg-Martha Stewart just did a show on Brooklyn. Visit Peter Lugers, Marlow & Sons, etc http://www.marthastewart.com/show/th...-brooklyn-show

Some additional resources for Brooklyn ideas:
http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Show...vgnextfmt=show


Food related for the outerboroughs
http://www.travelchannel.com/TV_Show...vgnextfmt=show
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Nov 10th, 2009, 05:40 PM
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Upper WEst Side Italiann could be Isabellas, near the Museum of Natural History, Bella Luna on Combus and about 89, Gennaros on Amsterdam and I think 92nd. A fairly new good neighborhood Indian is Tandoori on 94th near Broadway - but there are a ton of others.
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Nov 10th, 2009, 06:21 PM
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1) Queens
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic....html#17566670

2) Brooklyn
Did you see this? http://www.marthastewart.com/show/th...-brooklyn-show
The best way to do this is to subway over to Brooklyn and walk back over the bridge (when you're ready) so the views of Manhattan are in front of you. DUMBO is on one side of the bridge and Brooklyn Heights (with the Brooklyn Promenade for great views) is on the other side (both on the Brooklyn side).

3) The NY Botanic Gardens in the Bronx has a lovely train exhibit. http://www.nybg.org/hts09/

6) Little Italy is for tourists only. Vincent's Clam bar is the "famous" place but not worth the trouble. Go to Lombardi's for pizza.

7) The free ferry I think you're talking about is the Staten Island ferry which does NOT go from Battery Park but on the southEAST corner of Manhattan. Have you amde friends with maps.google.com yet???

8) Orchard st. is not what it once was, but there are still some of the old places like Fine & Klein. The lower east side is now quite trendy with lots of hip stores and restaurants. Classic les is Katz's deli. For something new and trendy, places like Allen & Delancey, Schillers, Stanton Social. Have a look on menupages.com

9) The Met and others are "pay what you wish" so maybe not free, but you can give what you can afford. The Met is open late on Fri. and Sat. http://gonyc.about.com/b/2008/01/11/...-wish-days.htm
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Nov 10th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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Thanks mclaurie. Those are all very helpful and I think we'll probably skip some areas - and yes, that's what I meant, "pay as you wish". Actually, we've looked at it and think we're best doing the city pass so we're not too worried about the museum admissions now (although adding the standard admission prices for the museums alone is only $10 less than the total so if we decide to do the empire state building again and statue of liberty and ellis island, then it will be worth it - what do you think of the pass?)

There are 5 nights open for either a show (we want to see at least 3 shows) or a nice prolonged dinners. Haven't decided which shows yet.

So here's what we've come up with. Pls let me know what you think so far.

Fri, 12/25: arrive early afternoon. check in to hotel and maybe potter around grand central station/times square? What's open on the 25th? early evening.

Sat, 12/26: Natural History Museum (broadway show in the evening possible)

Sun, 12/27: Bronx zoo, Botanical Gardens, Bronx Little Italy (evening open for a show)

Mon, 12/28: Guggenheim, Met, Central Park, Madison Ave (evening open for a show)

Tue & Wed, 12/29 & 12/30: Chinatown (dim sum lunch) on the 29th,the rest of the two days will cover East Village, Tribecca, SoHo, Statue of Liberty and Staten Island (evening open for a show)

Thur, 12/32 (NYE): Bryant Park shops in am, MOMA (4:30 to 6pm), St john the Devine, Dinner at Upper West Side (looking at some of the restaurants the nytraveler suggested), then fireworks in Central Park

Fri, 1/1 (NYD): Brunch somewhere then head to Queens Museum to see the Panorama (thanks mclaurie) then head to Austin St for dinner and maybe a nightcap at one of the area bars.

Sat, 1/2: I know the view is better coming from brooklyn to Manhattan but we want to be at the Brooklyn Museum that evening (free first Saturdays with a museum party from 5-11pm) so we'll head from the manhattan side first (make some stops along the way to see the view from the other direction) then do DUMBO (with the flea market) and Brooklyn Heights Promenade then the Brooklyn Museum (pick up tickets earlier if possible). Train it back to midtown.

Sun, 1/3: Open. I'm sure we'll find out some stuff we'd want to do while at the city so we can spend the day doing that here. (evening open for a show)

Mon, 1/4: Open during the day then heading to LGA around 2:30 for a 7pm flight out.

Thanks!
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Nov 10th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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When near Orchard Street try Ino's and Il Labarorio de Gelato.

As others noted, to me the boroughs are more about the people and from where they came than the sights. They speak 175 languages in Queens and to me that is interesting.

If that is not enough there is beautiful residental architecture in Brooklyn Heights and Park Slope and a slew of restaurants now althrough the borough.

I for one hate the name DUMBO. It was concocted and contrived by real estate people. And if it had that name when I was growing up and someone asked, "Where are you from?" and you answered "Dumbo" none of the responses would be good including "Yeah, and I'm from effiing Pluto."
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Nov 10th, 2009, 08:32 PM
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;-) good point aduchamp1. I guess I would feel that way too if I lived/came from there. My immediate link to the name when I read it was the elephant cartoon character with the big ears who I find cute.

I too agree it's interesting about the languages. Also read that 46% of the residents were born outside the US. The mix of cultures must be pretty impressive and another reason I just want a taste. Was hoping to just walk around Austin St and soak some of the diversity.

I think we'll probably skip manhattan's little italy. Is the bronx one better? Not sure if I'll really bother with Orchard st anymore. I tried to find the shops the last time we were there but thought I just wasn't in the correct intersections because there were not a lot of shops but now realized it may have just been a saturday where I read today most of the shops are closed. If what I saw on sale at the stands was an example of the majority of the fare on sale, I may just skip Orchard st altogether.
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Nov 10th, 2009, 09:02 PM
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I'm looking more at Forest Hills in Queens and I am getting excited for the shopping (after the museum, of course)! This is a super forum! Thanks for all the suggestions!!!
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Nov 10th, 2009, 10:16 PM
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The Queens Museum is closed on January 1.

http://www.queensmuseum.org/about/general-information
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Nov 10th, 2009, 11:23 PM
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There are scores of great Italian restaurants in Manhattan from all regions and at all prices. And what is left of the shrinking Little Italy there two wonderful stores DiPalo on Grand Street, which makes its own mozzarella and ricotta and otherwise imports the highest quality Italian cheeses and meats and Alleva cheese store.

Do not forget to see the old Italianate Polic HQ on Center and Broome which is now very expensive condos and where Teddy Roosevelt was once Commissioner.

Then you can walk to Joe's Diary on Sullivan Street, a 80 year old hole in the wall where they make arguable the best mozzarella in the city. Across the Street on Houston is Raffeto's, which is 100 years old. They chop some of their pastas to order on a machine that was obsolete 50 years ago. Their store made pasta, is one of the great food values in NYC.

Then up to Faicoo's on Bleecker Street where they make sensational suasage and other things like rice balls.

And then you can traipse over to Veniero's another 100 year old establishment for dessert.

This way you can see a number of Manhattan neighborhoods and some great, great food establishments.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/di-palos-fin...s-inc-new-york

http://gothamist.com/2004/08/12/joes_dairy.php

http://www.yelp.com/biz/raffettos-corp-new-york

http://newyork.citysearch.com/profil...ork_store.html
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Nov 11th, 2009, 12:38 AM
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thanks aduchamps. will peruse the links in a few.

Hi ellenem.

Yes, I've discovered some changes needed to be made on the days because of museums closing or found "pay as you go" days so therefore more convenient.

Switching 12/26 day and 12/28 day because the cloisters are closed for Holiday mondays and guggenheim is pay as you go on saturdays from 5-8pm.

also switching 12/27 with 12/30 because bronx zoo and ny botanical gardens are pay as you wish on wednesdays (and most stores close early, apparently, on sundays on arthur ave.

lastly, switching 1/1 with 1/3 because the Queens museum, as you said, is closed on New Year's day.

Anybody know if the TKTS booth in midtown manhattan is open on Christmas day for shows that evening? I saw somewhere that some broadway and off broadway shows are not dark that eveing.

Thanks!
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Nov 11th, 2009, 02:49 AM
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Here is a recent thread about walking across the Brooklyn Bridge with some information about the neighborhoods on either end.
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...e-244496-2.cfm

You could certainly walk through Little Italy in Manhattan when you visit Chinatown. As noted in another post, Little Italy has been shrinking over the years but there is still a core left
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Nov 11th, 2009, 04:53 AM
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I'm sorry I can't keep track of your itinerary changes. Can you please repost with the corrections you've made if you think you need more input?

I'll just mention on shows:

> it's more difficult to get discounted tickets for Sat. nights and prices are higher to begin with than on weeknights.
>most shows don't have performances on Mon. night (there are a few) although there may be some special performances for the holiday week since many won't run for NYE. Playbill.com will have a holiday schedule posted on the bottom right of their site.
> not sure about TKTS booth on Xmas day. It was open in Times Square last year but not the other locations as per this
http://www.newyorkology.com/archives..._open_chri.php

As you'll see from that link there's not much open early evening besides movies, Radio City Xmas show, and Top of the Rock and ESB. You might consider ESB then. It might be less busy than at other times. Top of the Rock is rarely a long wait but might be that day.

Have you thought about making a restaurant reservation for Xmas day? Many restaurants will close earlier than usual. Some are only serving til 8 or 9.

As for dinner near St. John the Divine, I don't know the area very much but just looking on menupages, A Cafe & Wine Room looks very nice and is very close. http://www.menupages.com/restaurants...wine-room/menu
http://www.acafeny.com/

I'm not a big fan of the City Pass. I think it's a lot of money and keeps you running around going to the places that are included regardless of whether you want to and as you've pointed out, the savings are not so great if you don't pay the requested fees in the museums. There's a combo pass for Top of the Rock/MOMA that's good value at $30 and must be bought in person at one or the other.

You say you're getting excited about Forest Hills??? When/what are you doing there? Doing the Met can be an all day affair. Doing that and the Guggenheim on the same day I think is overkill.
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Nov 11th, 2009, 05:00 AM
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Oh, and not a lot of shows play on Sun. evening either (most do have a matinee) so inadvertently you've picked possibly the 3 worst nights of the week (Sat., Sun., Mon.) to try for a show. There are a few that do have Sun. night performances and that's sometimes a good time for discounts. "In the Heights" is one of my current favorites and it does have a Sun. night (7 pm) performance). Evening shows are usually at 8 pm except Tues. many are at 7 and if they have Sun. shows they're usually 7 or 7:30.
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Nov 11th, 2009, 06:48 AM
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We loved "God of Carnage". We went on a Tuesday and it was sold out.
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Nov 11th, 2009, 07:44 AM
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Thanks mclaurie. I have 5 nights open to shows, not 3 but we do want to see at least 3 shows. Thanks for posting that review. That will help with the choices when it comes down to it. Now I think I do want to see fiurzabruta! Looks different.

Oh, I said I was excited about the shopping at Forest Hills (not the place itself). I read a couple of articles about the shopping there and it listed some of the stores w/ description and it sounded good.

I did do the google search and I did find that archived article from newyorkology which is where the question of this year's tots booth being open. I sent them an email w/ the question but will also call so we'll just play it by ear that day. We arrive at 2pm so after checking I'm. We'll wander over and see what we can get.

Yep, looked at open table but it looks like a few places will be open until at least 8 so depends if we can get broadway tix or not.

Think we'll skip the city pass then but the MOMA/top of the Rock looked good when I saw that on the MOMA site.

We've both been to the Guggenheim. I simply wanted to see the Landinksy part of the show so that won't take very long, I hope and the pay as you wish is not till later in the afternoon so am hoping it'll work out.

Thanks PamSF. Will look at that too.

My husband now has the revised schedule (he wanted to put it ok google docs) so I'll repost when I get it Bach.
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Nov 11th, 2009, 07:47 AM
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Sorry for the typos. The iPod's not very forgiving...
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What are you shopping for in Forest Hills? I can't imagine going all the way there from Manhattan for shopping???
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Nov 11th, 2009, 08:59 AM
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You can get a good discount for theater NOW and avoid wasting time in line later by visiting these websites:

playbill.com
broadwaybox.com
theatermania.com

These sites offer you discount codes for purchasing tickets online. If you're still undecided, you can also bring the discount code along with you and use it to purchase discount tickets at the actual box office. With all the visitors who will be in NYC at this time, I'd expect the TKTS lines to be huge.
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