new thoughts on paying xtra for our own kids!

May 1st, 2006, 02:53 PM
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NYtraveler,

Or, they could just stay at resorts that don't charge extra for kids in the same room.

I've yet been unable to find such a place in a resort area, I think it's the norm. It's more unusual for places to charge than to not in my experience. If they charge extra, we just go elsewhere!
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May 1st, 2006, 03:01 PM
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I'm curious if a husband traveling alone instead of with his wife and two kids as usual, objects to paying the same $200 for the room that he's using all alone that he'd pay if the whole family were there. My guess he'd want a discount because there aren't the usual four of them in the room. But I guess so, that would just mean that he hates kids.
 
May 1st, 2006, 03:50 PM
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Neopolatin.. good question. Actually the only time I have ever heard of a husband traveling alone was on a business trip. and then of course it is the BEST of everything and no one cares about $. Besides hunting or fishing trips and besides business trips si all I know for guys. Will be interesting to see what comes of this question!
 
May 1st, 2006, 04:12 PM
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Well Neopolitan, I can answer that as my husband travels about 5 times a month (he's in Cleveland as we speak, or type). No, of course he doesn't object to paying the same $200 as the family of four, but of course he views hotel rooms the way I do, that you pay by the room rather than by the person.

And he does watch his travel expenses, even though he could always stay at a Four Seasons, he doesn't. He doesn't want to set a bad example and be a spendthrift with company money. He also flies coach.
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May 1st, 2006, 04:30 PM
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OK,
Let's say we have two nice hotels with 200 roomseach, a pool, a beach, a restaurant. In one hotel, you have 200 couples. In the other hotel, you have 200 couples plus an additional 400 children.
Now which pool would be most available to adults; which restaurant would be most relaxing?
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May 1st, 2006, 04:39 PM
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Iinteresting, but realistically and from a marketing standpoint, family travel is on the upswing, and hotels that don't cater to families are going to find themselves sorry.

If all resorts didn't want kids, then why do so many of them welcome them with kids programs, free dining, kid-sized robes, video games in the rooms, etc? It's the more expensive hotels too, with Ritz Kids, 4S with the kiddy cooking classes..

The big resorts in resort areas cannot afford to discourage kids, there aren't enough kid-free travelers to support them.
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May 1st, 2006, 04:47 PM
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My husband travels quite frequently for business. What most people don't realize is there is a budget!! He flies coach and tries to stay in reasonably priced hotels. He is a solo traveler paying the same as a family would pay. He has never mentioned that that is unreasonable. So businessmen are no longer the first class travelers. (the nineties are over!!!)

People who are not tolerant of families should stay at couple's only resorts. Then they can happily pay the same rate as the guy next to them.


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May 1st, 2006, 04:51 PM
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nina -

An interesting concept. Do you believe restaurants should charge by the table - rather than by the food and drink that are actually consumed?

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May 1st, 2006, 04:57 PM
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I had no objection to paying extra for our kids, when they were young and traveling with us. How many hotels don't charge extra for more than two in a room--why should there be an exception made for our kids? But.. speaking of kids, that's not what I want to talk about, really.....

It is with some glee I open this can of worms...which probably should be a new thread.

What do you all think about spa treatments at resorts designed specifically for kids. Facials, massages, the whole 9 yards?? Personally, I hate the concept...just as I hated the BMWs in my kids, high school parking lot! What's left for when they are grown??
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May 1st, 2006, 05:57 PM
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Malesherbes,
I wonder if they'll take to the change of topic!
Good try though...

Maybe you could try to change the topic on the "Aliens" threads as well!Geesh! They're heated!
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May 1st, 2006, 07:01 PM
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JAGIRL...

Please forgive my dangling participle too! That should have read, "Spa treatments designed specifically for kids at resorts"....LOL The resorts weren't designed specifically for kids...although sometimes you'd think so.
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May 1st, 2006, 07:41 PM
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NYTraveler, to answer your question, no, and no offense but that's a terrible analogy, sorry.

Malesherbes, you're not kidding, I almost croaked when I saw 2 preteens with their hands out to their unsuspecting father who kept forking over cash for their mani-pedi's and waxings at the spa. What a 10 year old needs waxed I'll never know.....
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May 1st, 2006, 07:49 PM
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Oh and NYtraveler, the concept isn't all that interesting, it's standard procedure, unlike your very unconventional restaurant example.

In all my years of family travel, I've only come across one resort/hotel that charged for kids under 16 in a room, so the concept, while deemed interesting by you, is hardly unique, in fact in the US it's pretty much SOP.
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May 1st, 2006, 08:14 PM
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nina & malesherbes...

Are you guys serious? I can understand idle kids getting a mani-pedi, but getting waxed?
Who would wax a kid? And even more importantly...why would you wax a kid?
And even more puzzling as you said nina...what is it that they're waxing?

Now that's a ... rip off!!!
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May 1st, 2006, 08:28 PM
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Eyebrow waxing is very popular with tweens.
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May 1st, 2006, 09:21 PM
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I can't believe this issue is debated. I'll ask again ...

It is an absolute & undeniable fact that children add to a hotel's costs.

Who should bear that cost? All of the hotel's customers, of those who actually cause the higher costs (the parents)?

If the answer isn't obvious, the ignorance is.

Shut up, pay up, stay home, or stay elsewhere.
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May 2nd, 2006, 04:47 AM
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NY traveler, I have had friends that made reservations @ a fancier rest. and when they asked for a highchair, they were told no kids! so, of course these peopele took their larger group elsewhere, and the rest. could care less. So, it was her choice!
Wish the Gov. officals used a "budget" like ninas hubby. Would be better for all us poor tax payers.
 
May 2nd, 2006, 04:59 AM
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Wonders what Gekko finds a suitable subject matter (more interesting to here) on here?????
P.S. Does she have kids?
 
May 2nd, 2006, 05:18 AM
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...And people wonder why I choose not to stay in hotels unless I have no other option...
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May 2nd, 2006, 05:21 AM
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So Melrose, you titled this thread "new thoughts". Everything here has already been debated to death in the "bergers4" thread. What is the new point you're trying to make?

(Except malesherbe's funny idea of waxing kids...jagirl - "ripoff" - you're too funny )
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