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I don't agree, as I explained above, we prefer Berthoud over the tunnel route on 70.
Berthoud (not Bertha) Pass hasn't been two-lanes for years! There are two or three lanes in each direction. |
The Pass is not necessarily slow, either.
(Fmpden and I always debate on this subject. Haha) |
I also have vouchers for Copper, should you decide on Summit
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CORRECTION:
3 or 4 lanes on Berthoud |
fmden, we've already plowed that ground!! But good try. Skiing for free, thanks to a generous Fodorite, would be fine with me too to go over Berthoud!!
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Thanks, Gretchen!
To clarify, the vouchers themselves are free from me to DAX. They allow a hefty discount on lift tickets, but not a free pass. Make sense? |
PS. We have more vouchers, Gretchen. For Copper and Winter Park. Be glad to share with you, too.
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I am sorry PeaceOut you are the one who wants to turn it into a debate. When the OP was overnight in Winter Park I thought it was fine but if they are driving from Denver for two days, then the situation has changed. It still is an easier drive to Summit County than dealing with Berthoud Pass especially for someone who may not be experienced with mountain driving. And then there is the occasional speed trap at Empire. All three ski areas are basically similar.
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Peaceout: I tried to send you a personal thank you response but hotmail would not let me send out any message from my account even after reentering my password several times. It's still allowing me to receive messages just none outgoing. I tried sending you another one but that's also stuck in the red outgoing box, unless they both actually went out to you? In any case thank you again for the discount coupons, you are a generous Fodorite indeed! I have already printed them all out along with the reservations. We'll let you know if we don't get to use them all.
"But sounds like you have more stamina than me! ". Not really, honestly I'm just trying to be well prepared for our kids who are getting excited about doing everything on this trip, so I need to study all our options. |
Fmpden, we just disagree on all points. Seeing as how you haven't been on Berthoud since it was two-lanes. . .
I don't think DAX is planning to drive up and back two days in a row, are you? Because I wouldn't recommend doing that, no matter which ski area. Thanks for trying so hard to send an email to me, DAX. It's my pleasure to share them (and to intro you to Winter Park, if you choose). It's been our second home since the mid-70s. |
I just checked the weather forecast for this weekend in Denver, holy smokes!
It seems that the weatherman kept lowering the temperatures, below freezing and snowing in downtown on Saturday. Not exactly sightseeing temperatures but on the other hand we've never experienced skiing in 1-14 degree temperatures. It seems unreal, we can't even begin to imagine it, we were already skiing in our T shirts at Lake Tahoe a few weeks ago. I can only hope that the weatherman is wrong. Is this normal for this time of year? Do you all wear longjohns walking around town? Wool coat everyday? My wife and daughter are bringing their rubber sole boots for daily wear, gloves & hats too? I'm thinking that we may as well just ski, but I can't picture sitting on the lift chair in 10-14 degrees plus wind factor. Do people actually ski when it gets that cold? Triple quadruple layers? |
Peaceout: My wife prefers to stay at a ski in ski out facility if we stay in the mountain. I just checked lodging at the resort itself, they are completely sold out, that means people do ski. The Devilsthumbranch has plenty availability but it is even further into the mountain beyond the resort. Is that driveable with a front wheel drive?
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The weather here is always unpredictable. I say I want to be a weather forecaster, because they can be wrong half the time and not get fired!
What you describe is the worst case scenario. You can decide when you are here if you want to ski or not. Usually our worst weather isn't as bad as it sounds. Really. It isn't a damp, icy cold. You are bringing ski jackets, hats and gloves? Then don't bother bringing dressier wool coats for downtown. Denver is casual. Boots are a good idea. Layers. Always layers. Don't worry. It's an adventure. You have my email in case of problems. |
Yes, Devils Thumb is reachable with front-wheel drive. We drove it many times in front-wheel sedans. It is a rather long (and very pretty) dirt and gravel two-lane road, though, from the highway. Do they have a shuttle to the ski area? If you really don't want to drive in the snow, that road could be challenging, I have to say. Personally, I think it's worth it, to get away from the hubbub of the ski area.
For condo rentals, try Destinations West. They handle upper-end properties. Also try Allegiant Property Management, and ask about Trademark. It's a nice townhome property which is just outside the back gates of the ski area. The free WP shuttle takes you to the entrance gate. There is a hotel right across the highway from the ski area, called Winter Park Mountain Lodge. |
Also, try Alpine Resort Properties
http://www.alpineresortproperties.com/properties/search I saw availability at Iron Horse, which is ski in/ski out. It is an older property so you might ask about recent updates. |
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Lakota properties are newer, across highway from ski area. Winter Park Place-- not a good place. Good luck deciding. What are your travel dates? |
Hey PeaceOut, even a discount is wonderful. AND if you could spare some for Copper, I would be grateful. Our son got some discounts from Liftopia, but other son's pass is going to run out lacking a few days while we are there. I would be very grateful for several to Copper!!
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Sure. I'm happy your family can use them, Gretchen. To whom should I email them? I probably have about 10 for Copper.
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DAX, if your plans change, I would still have more Copper vouchers for you.
I need to send them by tomorrow night. |
You can send them to me gretnet at gmail.com
That is terrific and I thank you. Would 4 be okay? Thank you thank you!! |
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