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bardo1 Dec 12th, 2007 05:25 AM

Need 3BR NYC vacation rental
 
Desperate for ideas on a nice, 3BR vacation apartment in central Manhattan for 3 couples for 4 nights this summer.

Starting budget is $750 per night but can adjust upwards if nothing comes up.

Thanks.

Maggi Dec 12th, 2007 05:39 AM

Bardo, I've had this one saved on my favorites for a future visit:

http://www.vrbo.com/159018

There are others on vrbo.com that may be of interest to you as well. Many rent for a week, however.


MFNYC Dec 12th, 2007 05:40 AM

Some of the Affinia hotels have some multi-bedroom apartment type suites you might want to look into (affinia.com).

MFNYC Dec 12th, 2007 05:58 AM

If you google something like 'nyc short term apartment rentals', lots of references come up.

MaureenB Dec 12th, 2007 08:54 AM

We had a two bedroom/ two bath suite at the Affinia Gardens, and it was very nice. It's on the Upper East Side. It has a 'living room' and a kitchen. Not sure if they have three bedrooms, but it's worth asking. A very well-managed property, as I hear all the Affinia hotels are. Unlike many apartment rentals, you can stay at the Affinia Gardens for less than a week.
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michelleNYC Dec 12th, 2007 09:02 AM

You're probably going to have to adjust upwards for a 3BR. I believe Patrick has some good recs for short-term apartment rentals. Hopefully he'll see this and post.

nytraveler Dec 12th, 2007 09:50 AM

There are very few 3 bedroom places available and most will not want to rent for less than a week. If you go for corporate rentals you might find a place with a 2 bedroom and a 1 bedroom.

Suggest you consider 2 rooms in suite hotel (affinia etc) for options.

doug_stallings Dec 12th, 2007 09:56 AM

Not very likely. As the other posters have said, you could get a 2-bedroom suite (though there are VERY FEW of these, so book early) plus another room. This combination might be possible for $750 per night, though it's doubtful.

I distrust Craigslist and VRBO, but people have had luck with both. But there are almost no 3-bedroom apartments in Manhattan, so the chances you'll get something are slim to none.

I think this is a hopeless exercise and would suggest reserving the suite/room combo immediately (with a reservation that can be cancelled with no fee). That way if something miraculously appears, you can cancel.

bardo1 Dec 12th, 2007 11:31 AM

Thanks for the honest replys - "hopeless exercise" ...Yikes! I'll look into the suite\room option.

doug_stallings Dec 12th, 2007 12:15 PM

I just want to be a bit encouraging. I went on the Affinia Hotels web site (the best all-suite hotel company in Manhattan), and they have several hotels with 2-bedroom suites, but only the Eastgate Tower even offers a 2-bedroom suite within your initial price range. I think if you raise your budget to $325 per couple per night, you can do this with a combination of 1 2-bedroom suite and 1 regular room. At least that way you'd have one working kitchen, and the Eastgate isn't in such a bad location.

Then if you find something else, you can always cancel it. I hope mclaurie will chime in on this with some typically useful advice.

Maggi Dec 12th, 2007 05:50 PM

Bardo, my apologies, I gave you the wrong site. This is what I meant to type:
http://www.vrbo.com/115235

While Doug has his doubts about vrbo, and I appreciate his opinion, we have used the site many times very successfully. Only once have we had a problem and that was when the owner's husband had passed away, but we got our money back before our trip.

doug_stallings Dec 12th, 2007 07:18 PM

I have more doubts about the possibility of finding a 3-bedroom anything in Manhattan. I think I'm just not as trusting as some people; I'm sure most people who use VRBO do just fine.

bardo1 Dec 13th, 2007 05:08 AM

maggie,

We found that one already. one BR has a king, one has a queen and the tird has a pull-out sofa. If the three couples to have to draw straws, I don't want the short stick! We are still lookinhg at other options.

doug,

I am afraid you are right. I've looked all throughout vrbo, craigslist and about 25 vacation apartment agencies....NOTHING! Again, we may rethink the whole lodging situation.

Thanks to all for the help.

lisettemac Dec 13th, 2007 05:26 AM

Doug is right, bardo. The issue is that 3-bedroom apartments are a rarity in NY. Most who have them are families with a healthy income who aren't likely to rent. I'd try for a suite plus adjoining room or 3 hotel rooms. You won't get 3 separate hotel rooms for 750, but you might get it for closer to 800.

Maggi Dec 13th, 2007 05:50 AM

Good luck, bardo! Let us know what you end up doing, OK?

mclaurie Dec 13th, 2007 06:03 AM

I don't really understand why you all have to stay together. You'll do much better price wise in 3 separate rooms or suites at that time of year. I would not be difficult to find a decent room for 2 for $200/night x 3= $600.

You could find something in a smaller b & b/inn by combining some bedrooms. Have a look at 1871house.com and countryinnthecity.com


bardo1 Dec 13th, 2007 06:32 AM

<i>I don't really understand why you all have to stay together.</i>

Because we want to.

We enjoy the occasional meal in - three of us are serious cooks. Especially breakfasts, in our robes, discussing the morning paper, doing the morning crossword, planning the day, etc.

We also usually enjoy spending an evening or two in on our trips. It has been possible, though sometimes challenging, in other locations around the world. This trip may have to be the exception...

bardo1 Dec 13th, 2007 06:40 AM

Also, the $750 was a starting point. We are OK with whatever the costs turn out to be, space and location are the drving factors - not costs.

michelleNYC Dec 13th, 2007 06:47 AM

If price is no object, the Four Seasons has a three bedroom suite on the 32nd floor. Here is the link: http://www.fourseasons.com/newyorkfs...oom_suite.html

michelleNYC Dec 13th, 2007 06:54 AM

P.S. The Palace also has three bedroom suites as does The Kimberly.

http://www.newyorkpalace.com/accommodations/suites.html

http://www.kimberlyhotel.com/accommodations/

MaureenB Dec 13th, 2007 07:28 AM

Maybe the Affinia Gardens has a connecting room to a two-bedroom two-bath apartment? We paid about $650/night for the two-bdrm unit in late May.
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bardo1 Dec 13th, 2007 07:37 AM

Michelle,

Thanks, but ...

I didn't say &quot;no object&quot; - I said the not the &quot;driving factor&quot;.

<b>Twelve thousand</b> dollars per night is, I'm afraid, an &quot;object&quot;. Twelve hundred dollars per night for a hotel suite (though we've always went with apts) is more realistic - and really more of a last resort price for us.

nytraveler Dec 13th, 2007 09:41 AM

Doug -

I think you're mistaken - there are tons of 3 bedrooms apartments in Manhattan - esp in prewar buildings. Most of my friend with kids have 3 bedrooms (the so-called &quot;classic 6&quot; by realtors).

But, they're usually family apartments and rarely are they for sublet - esp short term.

And, for obvious reasons, corporate or even vacation rentals are usually one bedrooms at most.

So - agree finding a short-term 3 bedroom rental is very unlikely.

lisettemac Dec 13th, 2007 11:01 AM

Yes, there are plenty of Classic 6's, but that maids' room is usually only big enough for a twin bed -- hardly appropriate for 3 couples and rarely referred to as a &quot;three bedroom&quot; for that reason.

doug_stallings Dec 14th, 2007 04:16 AM

There may be 5,000 3-bedroom apartments in Manhattan, virtually all of them occupied with renters/owners. There are over 1 million people in Manhattan alone. A handful of those apartments are ever up for short-term rental. Do the math. I'm just trying to be realistic for the poster.

I still think the 2-bedroom suite + 1 regular room is the best they're going to be able to do under the circumstances.

But the Kimberly is a very good suggestion. It's not nearly as deluxe as the Four Seasons, and the location is good as well.

mclaurie Dec 16th, 2007 03:02 PM

If you're looking to cook a gourmet meal, I don't think any of the typical suite hotels will give you either the space or equipment you'd want, but I would start by contacting Affinia to see if they do have any 3 bedroom suites or whether any 2 suites could be attached.

This looks closer to what you'd want but I have no personal info about whether it's legit etc.
http://www.vrbo.com/117521

nytraveler Dec 16th, 2007 04:02 PM

Sorry - I can't imagine any short term rental that would be equipped to cook a gourmet meal. Even a corporate rental with a regular kitchen simply doesn't have the equipment you would need. They have just the bare basics - assuming it's people that will order in or micro nuke stuff, except for snacks or breakfast.

As for the classic 6 - it depends on how old the building is. Many are true family apartments - and the 6 doesn't count a maid's room. Usually you can get a double bed - true, not a whole lot more - in the third bedroom as long as it's 60's or before. It's the newer buildings that have the closet third bedrooms. Or - just the faking of a real estate agent.

NeoPatrick Dec 16th, 2007 04:18 PM

I'm not sure what kind of short term rental we're talking about here, but I've rented five or six short term rental apartments in NYC, and although I didn't do any real cooking, I sure could have. Most of them came with everything from mixers and processors to about every kind of pan and cookware you might want, rolling pins, utensils, graters, coffee bean grinders, espresso makers, you name it. All have had full sized ranges with ovens and four burners. Unless the poster is expecting a 6 burner Viking with rotisserie and grill, I can't imagine struggling too much. On the other hand if you're talking about an &quot;apartment hotel&quot; like an Affina one, rather than a regular apartment, then I suppose the microwave, limited cooking thing might be true.

The three bedroom matter, however, is quite a different thing!

mclaurie Dec 17th, 2007 05:40 AM

A private apartment is much more likely to have a well equipped kitchen than a suite in a hotel, but private rentals (particularly of the size they need) are rare, especially for a period of less than a month.


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