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National Parks
The Trump administration has announced new entrance fees for non-US-resident visitors for National Parks, effective January 1, 2026.
Beginning Jan. 1, 2026, the Annual Pass will cost $80 for U.S. residents and $250 for nonresidents, ensuring that American taxpayers who already support the National Park System receive the greatest benefit. Nonresidents without an annual pass will pay a $100 per person fee to enter 11 of the most visited national parks, in addition to the standard entrance fee. https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/de...al-park-access |
There's a similar discussion on the Europe Forum regarding the fee increase at the Louvre for non-EU visitors.
My comments there are, in part, "I've argued that America's National Park annual pass should cost more than the meager $80 even for Americans. We two empty nesters pay the same amount as a family/carload of four or six, and use ½ to ⅓ of the resources (restrooms and other public facilities.) For the National Parks there should be tiered pricing like so many museum memberships. And, the fee increase is only for a handful of national parks; that's not terribly different from cities like Amsterdam, Barcelona, Venice, Hallstatt, and so forth from limiting tourist activity." |
Do we want to encourage tourism by international visitors or not?
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Originally Posted by PrairieHikerI
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Do we want to encourage tourism by international visitors or not?
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Originally Posted by PrairieHikerI
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Do we want to encourage tourism by international visitors or not?
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Originally Posted by janisj
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Almost every country in the world charges foreign visitors a premium for at least some things whether it be parks or museums or public transport - or all of the above. Not sure why you sound so outraged?.
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Originally Posted by janisj
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Almost every country in the world charges foreign visitors a premium for at least some things whether it be parks or museums or public transport - or all of the above. Not sure why you sound so outraged?.
Here in Europe it is a totally rare experience. And if, then the different prices are maybe for Museo or something else, but not for natural wonders. Do you know, that almost everywhere in Europe the entrance to the Nationalparks is free??? |
Oh, and I just read this:
"""Ecuador charges almost 7x more for international visitors than nationals to visit the Galapagos""" Will you really compare the rich America with a poor 3.world country like Ecuador? |
The Galapagos is a unique situation. It's a bit silly to say this is a good comparison. What other national parks in Ecuador charge that kind of money to enter?
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Originally Posted by fourfortravel
(Post 17692790)
There's a similar discussion on the Europe Forum regarding the fee increase at the Louvre for non-EU visitors.
My comments there are, in part, "I've argued that America's National Park annual pass should cost more than the meager $80 even for Americans. We two empty nesters pay the same amount as a family/carload of four or six, and use ½ to ⅓ of the resources (restrooms and other public facilities.) For the National Parks there should be tiered pricing like so many museum memberships. And, the fee increase is only for a handful of national parks; that's not terribly different from cities like Amsterdam, Barcelona, Venice, Hallstatt, and so forth from limiting tourist activity." The new Louvre admittance for non-EU visitors is 37 Euros, far, far less than the new cost of visiting a US National Park for foreign visitors. That family/carload of four or six will most likely spend a lot more on lodging, food, souvenirs, etc. |
Originally Posted by Miwunk
(Post 17692867)
Oh, and I just read this:
"""Ecuador charges almost 7x more for international visitors than nationals to visit the Galapagos""" Will you really compare the rich America with a poor 3.world country like Ecuador? Because Ecuador is not a third world country. It is a middle-income country; and hence, desires the increased tourist revenue from international visitors to the Galapagos. |
Originally Posted by Barbara
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The new Louvre admittance for non-EU visitors is 37 Euros, far, far less than the new cost of visiting a US National Park for foreign visitors. That family/carload of four or six will most likely spend a lot more on lodging, food, souvenirs, etc.
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Originally Posted by Barbara
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The new Louvre admittance for non-EU visitors is 37 Euros, far, far less than the new cost of visiting a US National Park for foreign visitors. That family/carload of four or six will most likely spend a lot more on lodging, food, souvenirs, etc.
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i won't get into politics, but I am all in favor of hiking the NP fees on a tier-system. We are two (American) empty-nesters who pay a measly $80 annually to enjoy the parks, and we usually recoup our fee within a couple of months. I wouldn't think twice about paying double for our annual pass, as I know we would still recoup the cost. Ditto for our 20-something children, who climb up and down any NP mountain they find.
We also recoup our State Park pass within the first quarter of each year. America's National and State Parks are woefully underfunded, and woefully overburdened by visitors who don't appreciate them. |
Fourfortravel, I don’t disagree with anything you said in the above post. The Parks could use some respect. We paid $80 for our NP passes that are good for life. Definitely a steal, so we throw extra money into donation bins whenever we visit.
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Originally Posted by Miwunk
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What countries are you speaking off? Sure, some afrikan country do it, but this is because a lot of citizen in Africa cannot afford the normal price. Maybe there are also some 3.world-countries in Asia, but I don't know it.
Here in Europe it is a totally rare experience. And if, then the different prices are maybe for Museo or something else, but not for natural wonders. Do you know, that almost everywhere in Europe the entrance to the Nationalparks is free??? Several apples and oranges in your post. Many national parks in Europe are not comparable to US NP’s. Yosemite NP For an example is a closed environment with entrance gates and controlled entry. By comparison say Cairngorms NP is just an area of natural beauty with villages, towns, businesses even some industry within the boundaries. One wouldn’t even know they were in a park excel for a few road signs. Lots of first world countries deny museum discounts to foreign visitors - like for the senior citizen or youth discounts one needs a national post code or ID. Same for student or youth transport discounts. |
"but it's simply human nature to avail one's self of the "free" at the expense of others"
I disagree with that statement. It is not "simply human nature" to take advantage. You can make a donation to national parks if you want to support them more than the entry fee. |
We are the really old folks who spent $10 for our lifetime pass. We do spend $$$ on lodging, food, etc. in the parks and usually visit at the least crowded times. I love the parks and don’t feel guilty about this benefit of being a long time tax payer and supporter of the park system.
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Originally Posted by suze
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"but it's simply human nature to avail one's self of the "free" at the expense of others"
I disagree with that statement. It is not "simply human nature" to take advantage. You can make a donation to national parks if you want to support them more than the entry fee. Netflix discovered the same issue and has cracked down on sharing. So, yeah, it's simply human nature to take advantage of the "free." |
Originally Posted by fourfortravel
(Post 17692987)
And, one can fill their car with friends to take advantage of the annual park pass. Normally DH and I have one annual park pass. This year he signed the back; and what I discovered a couple of times earlier in the year is that at Great Falls Park, where I often take DDog, I was not permitted to enter the park (unless I paid) because my name did not match that on the card, no doubt the result of too many people sharing/taking advantage of their park passes. Eventually I decided to purchase my own card to avoid future hassles.
Netflix discovered the same issue and has cracked down on sharing. So, yeah, it's simply human nature to take advantage of the "free." Costco also had to crack down on people sharing membership cards. It's not something I have ever done, so no, I don't think it's "human nature". You can only fill your car with one person per seat belt. I think these may be things that are specific to one or two Parks. Great Falls is close to Washington, DC and highly-populated N. Virginia. Most of the Parks affected by the additional $100 per person are not close to large urban areas. |
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