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beachfamilyo6 Aug 24th, 2013 01:14 PM

Moving
 
We are considering moving to Florida, Myrtle Beach, SC or Norfolk, Virginia with our school age children. We have thought about Tampa and surrounding areas, as well as Ft.Meyers. Still looking for employment, but would like for advice on areas to look. We want good schools- elementary to college levels, would like a lower cost of living, but low crime.Need a 5 bedroom house, but can't pay $400,000. No more than 1 hour from beach. Would like to not have to pay crazy property taxes or insurance( while we are aware they will be more than other places in states!). Worried about sinkhole areas a bit also. Please, any and all advice is welcomed. This will hopefully be our last move. Retired army pilot, and have moved too much! If their are any other suggestions for places to move, please post! We want to be by water,warmth and sunshine, low cost of living, great schools, good employment options for hubbie, ......you know, the dream!! But cheap!

Christina Aug 24th, 2013 01:57 PM

Beach communities aren't usually cheap if they are in an area near employment and good schools, just don't think this is going to happen. What kind of employement would a retired pilot do, anyway? What are his skills other than flying planes, what kind of job does he think he will be looking for?

I live in DC metro area and don't know why you are considering Norfolk. Unless you just want to be around a bunch of Navy people, of course, and there is a beach. It has a big crime problem, a lot of crummy neighborhoods and bad schools.

http://hamptonroads.com/2012/09/norf...rst-performing

nytraveler Aug 24th, 2013 03:13 PM

You seem to be looking for an awful lot - usually a huge house in a neighborhood with good schools and lots of job opportunities will not be budget friendly.

I would start with areas that have lots of job opportunities - for whatever types of jobs the two of you will be looking for, then look at local schools. Size of house and budget will have to follow that.

I have some fami.ly in VA - but near Richmond - and in good neighborhoods with great schools very large houses tend to be pricey

sludick Aug 24th, 2013 05:37 PM

We moved to the Central Florida area in 1986 for a number of reasons. Truth to tell, one was that we could be at the beach in an hour or less, and there was a much better job market than we found along the coast.

Honestly, you do need to realign your search parameter a bit, starting with matching your job marketable skills with areas - keep in mind that if one job ends, you will probably want to have other local options to avoid yet another move.

The Orlando area could do it for you, although of course you would not be beachside. I think you might also consider Tampa area, near MacDill. But as for sinkholes - well, just write off Florida if that's a no-starter; conditions change and you don't know that what might seem to be a safe bet won't erupt in the next sinkhole.

Katzgar Aug 25th, 2013 01:20 AM

a retired army pilot is worried about sink holes? holy crap! for cheap you will be inland.

Ackislander Aug 25th, 2013 02:51 AM

You should not have two posts on the same topic at the same time.

Dukey1 Aug 25th, 2013 03:15 AM

Are you aware that the State of Virginia levies an annual personal property tax on automobiles?

And as to the sinkholes in Florida, a lot depends on what part of Florida you live in.

I think your real estate cost expectations are somewhat unrealistic also.

Dukey1 Aug 25th, 2013 03:55 AM

Also be aware that Virginia will fully tax any of your income to include military retirement pay as well as any Social Security income you may have.

Auto insurance rates are not as high as they are in some parts of Florida but they are not cheap. Auto registration fees are relatively reasonable.

You will be required to register your vehicles and be liable for state income taxes if you are domiciled in the state for longer than 30 days.

suewoo Aug 25th, 2013 05:05 AM

Beaches are never cheap. You will have extra insurance costs because of hurricanes. Myrtle is primarily a tourist place. Traffic in summer months is heavy.

DebitNM Aug 25th, 2013 06:22 AM

Jobs first, everything else follows.

garyt22 Aug 25th, 2013 06:50 AM

Check out Cape Coral Florida... just across from Ft Meyers and it seems to offer a lot of what you are seeking...

Austin Aug 25th, 2013 06:57 AM

You asked for other ideas....Areas surrounding Austin will fit your needs except a beach. Closest would be about 3 hours away. We have excellent schools and a 5 bedroom <$400k is doable. Reasonable cost of living and lots of opportunity for work,

suze Aug 25th, 2013 08:40 AM

As others have suggested, I would start with where you can find work. I think your stated price and requirement to be near a beach are going to be tough to pair up.

NewbE Aug 25th, 2013 11:05 AM

I think that Tampa fits a lot of your requirements: less than an hour from the beach; great public schools in most of Hillsborough County; job possibilities, presumably, at MacDill AFB; single family homes available in your price range across the county.

Cons are high property taxes (but not state income tax, so there's the tradeoff); sinkholes, although it's not like they sprout up everywhere every day; property insurance gets pricier the nearer you are to any body of water; and hurricanes, although, like sinkholes, these are not even annual events in most areas.

A lot of people here seem to be thinking about beachfront property when they say your budget is unrealistic. There are many parts of the Tampa Bay area where your budget would work just fine. Good luck!

Gretchen Aug 25th, 2013 12:51 PM

What kind of work do you want to do?

JanetKMR Aug 25th, 2013 01:25 PM

I have a good friend who moved to Tampa a few years ago and loves it. He is single, so no idea on the schools.

I would not move to Norfolk if someone gave me a house there.

As far as cost of living and good schools, I'd recommend Chesterfield County, VA, which is a suburb of Richmond.

NewbE Aug 25th, 2013 02:19 PM

<I would not move to Norfolk if someone gave me a house there.>
Me, neither. We lived in the Hampton Roads area for 2 years.

Christina Aug 25th, 2013 03:13 PM

I have friends in the Tampa area, also, and I think that sounds like a good possibility if you can be an hour from the beach. I like Tampa, it's a good enough place to live with a little culture, and good airport. And there are lots of military people living in Florida, including retirees, so access to some services you can only get at bases or MTFs. I have no idea about job possibilities at an AFB for a retired pilot, of course, or anywhere for that matter.

The only issue that would give me pause is the sinkhole thing as it seems like those recent horror stories were in Tampa area. I don't know how you check that out, but maybe there is a way. I have a friend in Gainesville, also, and I know you could live there for that amount of money but I think it is pretty dull, I don't know how she can stand it myself. And it is far from a beach.

NewbE Aug 25th, 2013 05:12 PM

The Tampa Bay area really is sinkhole central; almost any part of the state can get a sinkhole, but there are more of them here than anywhere else. A home inspection will usually turn up sinkhole activity.

Fwiw, the person who died this past spring was one of only 5 or 6 who have died in sinkhole since they started keeping track--so they are very, very rarely fatal. Still, property damage is severe when one opens up.

And they have tornadoes in the Midwest, and earthquakes out west... stuff happens!

schlegal1 Aug 26th, 2013 12:19 PM

<<I would not move to Norfolk if someone gave me a house there.>>

Me, three.

Christina Aug 26th, 2013 12:58 PM

yeah, stuff happens, but you really can avoid sinkholes pretty well as they don't occur in that many places. There are lots of places that aren't that dangerous from natural disasters, also, I live in one (Maryland, not on the eastern shore where you can get more possible hurricane damage). I'm from Ohio and there are occasional tornadoes there but not really as many as some of those Plains states. There is occasionally a minor tornado in Maryland, also.

How about the FLorida peninsula, like around Pensacola?

Birdie Aug 27th, 2013 06:23 PM

Take a look at York County in Virinia, 45 minutes from Norfolk. It's near military bases so there are civilian jobs for ex-military with the right skills. The school system is excellent. Yes, it's in Hampton Roads which has a lot more going for it than folks on this thread will have you think.

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OO Jan 15th, 2014 05:36 AM

I've lived in Tampa and the majority of my friends sent their kids to private school or tried to get them into a magnet school. The Westchase section of Tampa has better schools, but it will be a drive to the beach, and I'm not sure if you could find a house that size under $400. Our DD and SIL are in St Pete, and if they had not gotten their son into the school of their choosing through the lottery, he would have had to go to private school as well.

You asked for other suggestions and San Antonio came to mind immediately...but of course, it is far from the beach. It is a huge draw for retired military because of BAMC, and the Commissary is at your disposal too. Property taxes are high, but there is no state income tax. Schools are especially good in the northern suburbs, and housing is far more affordable than most areas of the country, but even so, 5 bedrooms under $400, might be tough, especially in the better school districts. The negative...no beach, and excessive heat in the summer.

NewbE Jan 15th, 2014 07:10 AM

The schools in the suburbs ringing Tampa--like Westchase--are overcrowded, the Fishhawk Ranch area and Brandon especially.

< the majority of my friends sent their kids to private school >
If they lived in South Tampa, I'm very surprised to hear this. The Gorrie-Wilson-Plant school district is among the best in the country.

OO Jan 15th, 2014 07:27 AM

Yes, almost all were in south Tampa and spending nearly as much for private school as we spent for our kids college, although one whose child was at Gorrie was very happy with it, and she was picky. The mobile classrooms in school parking lots were a real turn off to me too. Has that been remedied?

NewbE Jan 15th, 2014 07:31 AM

No, those are still there, OO! I confess, not having kids, I am going by what my neighbors say, and stats and so on. I don't envy parents the burden of choosing the right school for their kids, that's for sure. But I know a handful of young couples who are moving from the suburbs to South Tampa, despite increased housing costs, in order to save money by sending their kids to public schools.

To each his/her own! The one thing I take umbrage to is the idea that all public schools in FL are awful. They vary.

suze Jan 15th, 2014 12:41 PM

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