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Dick Jun 8th, 2005 08:56 AM

Man with a chain saw that was apparently covered with blood was let into the U.S.
 
I hope that they do a better job of security at the airports.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/mas...t_into_the_us/

irishdame Jun 8th, 2005 09:04 AM

There was no reason to hold the guy, no warrents out for arrest and they can't tell dried blood from rust or paint. All weapons he had were confiscated and he was fingerprinted. Not much else they could do.

Tiff Jun 8th, 2005 09:19 AM

Unbelievable.

bluestructure Jun 8th, 2005 09:26 AM

WHY ARE PEOPLE MAKING A BIG DEAL ABOUT THIS??? There was nothing illegal about someone showing up at the border with those items. They interviewed him for 2 hours, confiscated all his items and let him go. He had no warrants and was a US citizen. Red stains doesn't always mean blood and as of right now, they still haven't been able to confirm it's blood or not!

jlm_mi Jun 8th, 2005 09:33 AM

I have not yet seen anyone making a "big deal" about it, but it's in the news because it's a really strange story. People find it interesting, and it is a bit creepy, even if everything was done "right".

NorthwardBound Jun 8th, 2005 09:53 AM

Regardless of what the police can and can't do - what normal citizen lets a man with a chain saw and what could be blood all over him into their car? And it was more than one person who gave him a ride!

Say what you want, but our system is convoluted. We let someone toting an arsenal into the country and are daily detaining people merely based on the color of their skin or their accent - because they 'could' be affiliated with a terrorist group.

Somehow that comparison is just wrong.

al Jun 8th, 2005 09:54 AM

It's nothing to worry about -- it's only Jason Voorhees, in town for a couple Red Sox games.

atilla Jun 8th, 2005 10:28 AM

Is that photo of him for real?? That is one creepy image.

BeachBoi Jun 8th, 2005 10:34 AM

Love that "do" !!!

sks Jun 8th, 2005 10:34 AM

Just because he isn't wanted in the US, doesn't mean he hasn't potentially done anything wrong. Infact he was due in Canadian court (for threatening the man who was decapitated I think) and a 'person of interest' in regards to a double murder - involving the guy that was decapitated.

Too bad the US and Canada didn't communicate a little better before they let him go.

Wednesday Jun 8th, 2005 10:41 AM

Too bad the US and Canada didn't communicate a little better before they let him go.

No kidding, you would think in that 2 hours they had him they might have made a call just to be sure...especially since it seemed suspicious in the first place...

brookwood Jun 8th, 2005 10:47 AM

I don't think US officials call Canada.

ahhnold Jun 8th, 2005 10:47 AM

They have to let nearly everyone in because if they don't, the ACLU will acuse them of PROFILING.

mah1980 Jun 8th, 2005 11:04 AM

Clearly, there is 1) a reason to be upset about the way that the US Customs agents handled this case; and 2) a reason that the obviously deranged man should not have been let into this country.

The agency did not do its job. They could have called Canada (excerpt from the article that was linked: "On the same day Despres crossed the border, he was due in a Canadian court to be sentenced on charges he assaulted and threatened to kill Fulton's son-in-law, Frederick Mowat, last August."). When someone is coming from another country, in this case from Canada to the United States, I'm sure that the US can ask for a Canadian background/criminal check on a person as suspect as this guy obviously was. If that is not possible and the person attempting to enter the US looks as dangerous/criminal as this man was, then he should be detained indefinitely. There was reasonable suspicion and I would even argue probable cause to detain this person (PC because of the bloody chain saw and arsenal of weapons).

Ahnnold: I'm pretty sure that even the ACLU would have been comfortable w/holding this psycho longer than two hours. How could it be "profiling" as you say if the killer was a white male. Profiling applies to targeting minority groups that stereotypically commit certain types of crime. I've noticed your assorted posts regarding how liberals are evil, stupid, etc. While I would not classify myself as liberal, I definitely wouldn't be as far to the right as you are (I'm assuming your screen name is taken from the articulate Governor of California who is doing such a great job right now). The ACLU may have the right to bring lawsuits, however, for your information criminal justice laws in this country in the last 20 years have become, right or wrong, increasingly police friendly. The Rehnquist court has carved out many exceptions to search and detention rules, therefore, the customs agents had every right to detain the guy (also, at border entry points agents have more rights to search/detain under the law than regular law enforcement officers have).

ahhnold Jun 8th, 2005 11:12 AM

That was intended to be a joke, much like your sarcastic comment about the job The Governator is doing now.

cmcfong Jun 8th, 2005 11:28 AM

Sorry, this is driving me nuts. I cannot view the story without giving the Boston Globe my email address . Has anyone seen this story on another new service?

AAFrequentFlyer Jun 8th, 2005 11:31 AM

That's why our government really needs the "no-fly" list????

This guy is accused of killing people right next door and nobody blinks an eye (hardly) and lets him in after they discover knives, hatchet, a chainsaw with possible blood stains. Cat Stevens is flying from London and the plane gets diverted.... go figure

The no-fly list is really working, NOT!!!

CAPH52 Jun 8th, 2005 11:50 AM

cmcfong, the link took me straight to the story the first time I tried. Now I'm getting the sign in screen.

So is this guy related to the runaway bride? Same eyes!



CAPH52 Jun 8th, 2005 11:55 AM

cmcfong, I put "man with chain saw admitted to u.s." in google and was able to get the story.

dusty56438 Jun 8th, 2005 11:59 AM

sks - The murder was not discovered until after he had entered the U.S.

But, somehow this guy should have been detained.


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