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travelgirls Aug 26th, 2003 07:12 AM

Locking luggage vs using plastic cable ties?
 
I have read that because of heightened airport security, passengers should leave their luggage unlocked! Otherwise security will cut one's luggage open if the machine shows anything which looks suspicious! One article suggests using plastic cable ties to keep luggage from accidentally opening up, so airport security can inspect it, if need be, without ruining the luggage. Hopefully, they will tie it back. Has anyone had experience with this? Are most of you locking your luggage when flying or not? Does the plastic cable tie system work? Thanks for your advice.

E Aug 26th, 2003 07:15 AM

I have never locked my luggage, even when I was flying 3X/month. Never lost a thing.
My understanding of the plastic ties is that inspectors will not reattach them if they remove them to search your luggage. I think the idea is that at least you will only have lost a plastic tie, rather than a metal lock.

RachelG Aug 26th, 2003 07:17 AM

We have used the plastic locking devices for years, even before 9/11. Sure enough, on our recent trip back from Canada, when we got home, 2 of the 4 suitcases had our clear plastic ones removed and they were replaced with blue ones, so someone was searching them. Nothing missing, and they did lock them back. I definitely would not use a regular lock now.

bookhall Aug 26th, 2003 07:17 AM

I never lock my luggage. But I don't put anything in it worth stealing. Valuable stuff is hand-carried or in my carry-on.

E Aug 26th, 2003 07:19 AM

Btw, if they search your bag, they leave a white one-page flyer inside describing your rights, what to do if something is missing, etc., so you can always tell if your bag was searched.

utahtea Aug 26th, 2003 07:20 AM

We didn't lock our luggage. We didn't put anything of value in the luggage we checked.

On our return trip home we found a little note in our big suitcase tell us that it had been choosen at random to be searched. Glad I didn't lock it because it's an OLD samsonite and it would never stay shut again if the lock was broken!

Utahtea

Cher Aug 26th, 2003 07:22 AM

I've switched from the traditional luggage locks to the plastic cable ties. When checking in at at airport without the x-rays in which your check-in luggage undergoes inspection when you check in, I give the ties to the inspectors who put them on after they're done with the inspection. (This is where you have to stand on the side and can watch them do the inspection, but you're not allowed to come near the luggage.)

So far when I've reached my destination, the tags have still been on indicating that my luggage didn't undergo any further checking.

J_Correa Aug 26th, 2003 08:07 AM

I don't lock my luggage either. I figure lock or no lock, zip tie or no, if someone wants to get into my luggage and steal something, they will. I've always carried anything of value with me onto the plane.

Molly2 Aug 26th, 2003 08:49 AM

I used the platic ties on a recent trip Boston-Calgary and return. On the Calgary-Boston leg, one of our three checked pieces had the ties cut, with no note or replacement tie. Nothing appeared to be missing. Before 911, we locked all our luggage. Now, for us at least, the plastic ties seem to be the best option - nothing is perfect.

Cerlaurie Aug 26th, 2003 09:22 AM

Just a side note - recently I was talking to someone at the airport who said that security was inspecting her carryon bag and she noticed the person pull his hand out in a fist. She asked him what he had and at first he said nothing. She made him open his hand and he had $50 that he stole from her purse. He denied it and said he found it on the floor. Luckily, she was watching him search her bag.

DownSouth Aug 26th, 2003 09:42 AM

Just flew Southwest from New Orleans to San Diego. I told check-in security that I wanted to put metal locks on all suitcases after screening. I was escorted to this area and after the bags were screened with some being opened and searched, I was then able to hand the locks to the screener who locked the suitcases in my presence. No problems.

Chele60 Aug 26th, 2003 09:51 AM

When I went to New Orleans/Houston last March, I used plastic cable ties. My luggage wasn't opened or searched at that time. And no, I don't have anything of value in any checked bag, but I do not like the idea of my luggage spilling all over the baggage carousel (as I've seen happen to one or two other people), so I lock it.

Patty Aug 26th, 2003 10:00 AM

I have built-in combination locks on my luggage. I always leave it in the 'unlocked' code but worry that they'll get locked accidently if something bumps into one of the numbers. I thought about putting the combination code in the luggage tag, but do you think they'll even bother to look for it or just break the locks?

ibob Aug 26th, 2003 10:17 AM

I tied a bandana to the handle of each of my 2 checked suitcases (for easy identifying purpose) oops no more bandanas. They did not fall off. Lesson learned, now I use ribbon. Also alot of the luggage looks the same. Especially when your luggage doesn't make the return flight (1 bag out of 2). That's my story and I'm sticking to it........

islandmom Aug 26th, 2003 01:20 PM

What was the blue plastic lock with numbers they put on one of my bags? I had to leave locks off mine last trip. One came back to me with some type of search tag.

simpsonc510 Aug 26th, 2003 02:55 PM

OK, here's my story. I don't lock my bags and never have in the past either and I've been lucky. I flew from Chicago to Dallas and when I picked up my bag, it had a plastic tie thru the zippers. That's fine...but...and here's the problem...my scissors were INSIDE the bag that I couldn't get undone because of the plastic tie. We can't carry scissors in a carry-on bag, so I had to get clippers to open my suitcase! Bet the airlines didn't think about that inconvenience...LOL

KenCT Aug 26th, 2003 03:07 PM

Direct quote from the Transportation Security Administration website, the "horse's mouth," as it were. Excellent source for all sorts of information regarding air travel. http://www.tsa.gov

"In some cases the TSA will have to open your baggage as part of the screening process. If your bag is unlocked then TSA will simply open the bag and screen the bag. However if the bag is locked and TSA needs to open your bag then locks may have to be broken. Therefore TSA suggests that you help prevent the need to break your locks by keeping your bag unlocked. In the near future TSA will provide seals at the airport for you to use to secure your luggage as an alternative to locking your bag. Until that time you may want to consider purchasing standard cable ties to secure your bags if it has zippers."


ARKANSASNURSE Aug 26th, 2003 03:19 PM

I had bought a new rolling case with it's own matching locks to use on my first business trip. Got to STL w/o problems. Trip home another story, bag was 9 lbs overwieght which I had to pay for $25 extra for. Not the problem, the suitcase was cut open and some of my new clothing was gone.

kopp Aug 26th, 2003 04:00 PM

Using a plastic cable tie or metal lock is a good option on suitcases with zippers. What about the hard-sided suitcases that just have a latch with a keyhole? These can come undone quite easily with a simple flick of the latch, so locking has been a necessity in the past. I like my hard-sided as so many of my other soft-sided with zippers have ended up with torn zippers, broken wheels, etc., which the airline says are exempt from any monetary recovery. Similarly, many golf club cases are hard-sided, and there is no way my clubs are going unlocked. So I just stand around, wait for security to finish, then smile nicely and pray they'll take my key to lock it. Makes me very nervous, however.

Jed Aug 27th, 2003 05:26 AM

Patty- If you cover the numbers of your combination lock with a piece of tape, it will keep them from being accidently turned. ;;)

faubourg Aug 27th, 2003 05:53 AM

My luggage was checked after a trip to Vegas this past weekend. Apparently the checker was having a sugar attack. He/she opened a gift package of candy and ate one piece. VERY TACKY! And difficult to give a gift of candy with one piece missing!

Jed Aug 27th, 2003 07:08 AM

faubourg - You have to give the checker a lot of credit. He/she was risking his/her life to make sure that the candy was not full of explosives or poison. O-)

irishdame Aug 27th, 2003 08:29 AM

Simpson,
You CAN have scissors in your carry on bag as long as they have BLUNT tips, pointed tips will not be allowed.
Please see the link below, it will gie you a complete list of what are permitted and prohibited items. I'd keep a copy and bring it with you when traveling because I've found that the TSA has confiscated a few of my personal belongings in error!!

http://www.tsa.gov/interweb/assetlib..._7_24_2003.pdf

ADOBE ACROBAT needed to view this link!


I traveled to Amsterdam this past spring and used the plastic zip ties on my checked bag. The bag was returned to me with all the ties removed but not replaced, AND with no paper whatsoever that indicated anyone had been in my bag. Of course I knew that someone had be rooting around in it but nothing was amiss. I don't keep anything in their that I'd mind losing anwyay!

RachelG Aug 27th, 2003 09:16 AM

I use nail clippers to get the plastic ties off-- it's a little tricky, easier if you don't pull the tie all the way tight (which is what my husband is prone to doing).

E Aug 27th, 2003 09:59 AM

Several people have said they stand around and wait for the inspectors to finish looking through their checked luggage, then lock their bags, BUT: that isn't possible anymore at some airports, and will eventually be impossible everywhere. The only option will be to leave your luggage unlocked and que sera, sera.

luna Aug 27th, 2003 11:46 AM

I use the cable ties on my soft-side zippers, and leave a cheap pair of nail clippers in one of the outside pockets. I also carry a second pair of clippers (without the file attachment) in my purse.

Kay2 Aug 27th, 2003 12:46 PM

After the abuse our luggage has taken over the years, we use hard sided for checked and soft sided just for our wheelaboards.

Just back from trip to Montana. Had to leave unlocked when checking in at local airport or risk them breaking the built-in locks. It arrived on the carousel open with clothes hanging out in all directions. We reported to the counter folks and searched the bag--thankfully nothing missing. We also don't pack anything really valuable, just what we need for the trip, so it would be a real inconvenience for my hiking shoes or something similar to be missing. Counter agent said it must be heavy and have just come open when bringing it in from the plane and must have been hard to close so they just threw it on the carousel. Indeed it was heavy--we only check baggage when we have to take hiking boots, ski boots or something else too bulky for carryon. She said she would talk to the staff but it was obvious she didn't think it was a problem.

Returning that airport had the stand by while they screen then allow you to lock the luggage, so we did. Arrived closed this time.

Patty Aug 27th, 2003 02:54 PM

Thanks Jed, I had thought of that but wasn't sure how well the tape would stay on. Guess I will try it out next time.

kopp,
Regarding the hard sided suitcase issue, I use a belt that goes all the way around the suitcase. Keeps the suitcase from popping open if accidently unlatched. It's a Samsonite accessory but I'm sure others make them. Don't know what to do about the golf clubs though.

gail Aug 27th, 2003 03:15 PM

When we checked in for flights 2 weeks ago at Logan (Boston) there were signs warning people not to lock luggage and USAirways counter person also reminded us. I could not see how one could wait for luggage to clear check at Logan since it disappears on some conveyer belt thing behind a wall once you check in.

Earnst Aug 27th, 2003 03:19 PM

I never lock my luggage. If I am taking anything that I consider to be of value, I put it in my carry-on.


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