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redsoleslady Feb 23rd, 2016 07:49 PM

LA 1st timer... HELP!!
 
Hi all, I'm a female solo traveller going to the US for the 1st time, not gonna rent a car so I'll depend a lot on public transport, shuttle (if any) and Uber/taxi.
I'll go to LA this summer, eta touch down LAX by 18th of July 2016 around 14.00pm. I want to go to Disneyland 1st from here so my would be itinerary is:
18July touch down LAX go straight to Anaheim (Hotel TBC, I wanna stay super near Disneyland, maybe Super8 Anaheim Maingate or Americas Best Value Astoria Inn & Suites, need advice on this)
19July play at the park
20July play at the park (is 2 and half days too long? I love Disneyland)
21July morning (10-11ish am) move to LA (need advice on transport, better to get Uber or any shuttle/public transport)
21July-26July free time in LA,
I wanna do Universal Studio, Six Flag Magic Mountain Santa Clarita (better just take Uber or via public transport??), Runyon Canyon Hike, Griffith Park/Obs walk, Hollywood touristy thing like walk of fame etc (but maybe can be done in like half a day?), take a stroll/sightseeing in Beverly Hills like rodeo drive, melrose ave, etc, Getty Villa in Malibu (how to get there without a car??), shopping, Maybe do a stroll Santa Monica-Venice via boardwalk (have no idea of what it is but some travel forum suggested it).

FYI I love walking and do sightseeing enjoy scene of the new place that I visit (so safety of the area is no.1), that's why I'm hooked with travelling alone all over Europe because I found it is convenient to walk/convenient public transport in Europe (I came from a city that is probably has the worst traffic in the world, so no driving in LA for me thankuverymuch). I don't do clubs, I love window shopping, and I love to eat.

Thus, my ultimate question is:
- Where to stay? Santa Monica, Hollywood or Downtown? (My budget's quite minimum so am pretty much down to option like USA Hostel Hollywood or Hostelling International Santa Monica, I never experience any stay in any hostel in any part of the world, so I also need a review or advice on those 2 hostels too, is it a bad idea? or I have another option of staying at Miyako Hotel Downtown)

27July super early morning like 6ish am depart LA (so going to LAX, gonna take Uber)

I heard that there'll be extension of subway rail going all the way to Santa Monica from downtown that'll be open somewhere this year (May'16 I heard), but it'll pass culver city etc, so is it safe? I need insight from locals.

I never use Uber in my life because where I live we all have cars and we drive and drive and drive all the way to heaven (thus the bad traffic), so I wanna know how convenient is taking Uber in LA? Is it okay to take Uber like at night 10ish pm or early morning like 6am?

Many thanks in advance to whoever reply with helpful advice and insights!

Tabernash2 Feb 23rd, 2016 08:47 PM

First and foremost, Los Angeles without a car will be an experience in frustration. There aren't that many cabs or Uber drivers. Public transportation can be iffy.

It's probably cheaper to get a car than to rely on Uber.

maitaitom Feb 23rd, 2016 09:16 PM

Here are a lot of Southern California things to do.

I have included both Gettys, Huntington Library, Griffith Observatory, the Broad, Farmers Market and dozens more.most in the L.A. area.

<B>http://travelswithmaitaitom.com/california-dreaming-1/</B>

Fern Dell to Griffith Observatory is a wonderful hike...you can go further from there if you like.

<B>http://www.simpsoncity.com/hiking/griffith/ferndell.html</B>

Feel free to ask me any questions. Have a great trip.

((H))

Guenmai Feb 23rd, 2016 11:03 PM

I'm from L.A. County. Good luck, without a car, to do all the things that you want to do.

Happy Travels!

redsoleslady Feb 24th, 2016 01:19 AM

Thanks for the reply, ok so, car matter aside, pls kindly advice which place I should stay like whether in Hollywood, Santa Monica or Downtown?
Also, I wanna ask about prepaid card for internet mobile, is it better to buy one or just rely on wifi in like Starbucks or shopping malls?

nytraveler Feb 24th, 2016 08:30 AM

You very seriously need to reconsider getting a car. LA is not a city for walking like those in europe - or NY, Boston, SF or Chicago. It is really made up of a large number of connected suburbs with very limited public transit which could really limit what you are able to see and do.

While you might be able to get from A to B via public transit it could easily take one or more changes and 2 hours or more to do a 30 minute trip by car.

Tabernash2 Feb 24th, 2016 08:55 AM

You say, "that's why I'm hooked with travelling alone all over Europe because I found it is convenient to walk/convenient public transport in Europe"

Los Angeles is NOT like that.
Look at a map of Los Angeles, and plot the places you want to visit. You will see a pattern: they are NOT clustered together.

Please take our advice on this. I have lived in southern California, my son lives there now. We have tons of experience there. We would not dream of trying to visit without a car. We even rent one when visiting our son, because he needs his car and we need a car-- it would not be realistic to expect him to drive us everywhere, as well as do his own work.

To be honest, I don't think LA traffic is all that bad. I just stay off the interstates, and go through the neighborhoods. It's more scenic and less stressful.

If you absolutely will not get a car, then you might consider the train:
https://www.amtrak.com/pacific-surfliner-train

"Connecting San Luis Obispo and San Diego through Los Angeles and Santa Barbara, the Pacific Surfliner offers a unique vantage on the Southern California seascape. . . .

Starting at the southern end of the route, you'll find an almost endless list of attractions in the sun-splashed city of San Diego. Take in a thrilling aquatic show at SeaWorld®. Stroll by the many shops and restaurants of the Gaslamp Quarter. Or take a sandy step back in time at the grand old Victorian beachfront Hotel del Coronado.

Heading north, the route takes you directly through Anaheim, making the Pacific Surfliner your ticket to a worry-free trip to Disneyland® and Disney California Adventure® Park."

This option would keep you by the ocean, and you could rent bikes at different stops to get around closeby. The cities you could visit are great ones.

Surfergirl Feb 24th, 2016 09:51 AM

Where are you coming from?

For what you want to do (which sounds mostly like going to amusement parks), as a solo traveler without a car, the proposal just screams book a tour for Los Angeles. And by that, I mean an "all inclusive" type of tour that will book you into hotels, drive you around, and take you to all of these places. And you won't be alone. And you'll be safe. And it will probably end up costing you a lot less than doing it yourself by yourself.

I say this because:
(1) I've been going to all of the theme parks in the Los Angeles area for over 50 years; and
(2) Know the great distances between the theme parks in the area, which, except for Universal, can only be reached by car (or a tour bus).

DISNEYLAND:
Uber, while now plentiful and are allowed to and from the airport, will not work to get you from LAX to Anaheim . . . much too expensive. There are buses that will take you from LAX to one or more hotels at Disneyland. Alternatively, there is, as Tabernash2 noted. One is public transport via taking a shuttle at LAX to the Metro Green Line, but getting to Union Station involves using 3 Metro Lines (the green, the blue, and the red or purple) and with luggage, forget it!). There is also a flyaway bus to Union Station (best bet). Now the Surfliner travels from Union Station to Anaheim (where Disneyland is located) about once an hour or so. It takes about 50 minutes to get there by train. However, once you are at the Anaheim station, you need to find your way to your hotel, which will mean uber, more public transport, or taxi. All in all, anticipate 3 hours to get there from LAX, wait time included.

See link below options getting to Union Station:
http://traveltips.usatoday.com/amtrak-lax-39890.html


MAGIC MOUNTAIN:
Magic Mountain is way the heck north of mid-city LA on I-5, and really only accessible by car, not by public transport. I'm located at the I-405 in West Los Angeles, and it takes me a good 30 minutes with NO TRAFFIC to drive to Magic Mountain. While that may have happened 25 years ago, you're living in Fantasyland if you think you can make it there these days in 30 minutes. Double that time. Again, depending on where you stay in LA, I don't think anyone would be willing to UBER you to and from Magic Mountain, unless you paid a LOT of money to make it worth their while. You'd probably spend less hiring a limo for the day!

UNIVERSAL:
Universal is really the easiest to get to by public transportation, since it is located on one of our Metro subway/light rail lines. The thing is, it drops you off at the bottom of a steep hill, and Universal Studios is at the top of the hill. I suspect there are shuttles to Universal from the station, but because I drive up there, I'm not sure.

Your question about hotels:
Either the hostel in SM or one of the 2 in Hollywood would work fine for you. I would check with each of them in terms of: (1) availability, and (2) what amenities they offer. For example, some hostels have tour trips you can join that goes to Magic Mountain or Universal, which would be perfect for you. Also mind the reviews of each of the hostels, since one might be more of a party atmosphere than you'd like. From a single woman safety standpoint, I'd feel safer at the Santa Monica location than the Hollywood ones. The one on Schrader south of Hollywood is probably a little safer than the one on Hollywood Blvd. itself, but Hollywood as a whole, is fairly mixed. I would not venture north of Hollywood Blvd. alone at night unless you are walking on a major street like Highland.

Bedar Feb 24th, 2016 12:09 PM

Something strange here - the OP expects to stay in hostels and take cabs all over ? Must be a troll.

jamie99 Feb 24th, 2016 12:10 PM

Rethink the car.
From Hollywood, which has halfway decent public transport to Six Flags takes 1 metro and 2 buses and will take 90-120 minutes ONE WAY.
From Hollywood to Getty Villa will take two buses, one of which is a local with many stops, and will take 60-90 minutes ONE WAY.
Disneyland is great, but is in another county an hour drive south of Los Angeles so good you will stay there for your visit.
LA is just not a walking city and although our public transport is getting better it still has a long way to go. We just cannot compete with Europe and places like New York. LA was based on the car.

tomfuller Feb 24th, 2016 12:44 PM

What you need to know to get from Los Angeles to Magic Mountain 6 Flags - http://www.santaclaritatransit.com/s...agic-mountain/
My grandkids live in Stevenson Ranch and they only go 3 times a year.

janisj Feb 24th, 2016 12:49 PM

>><i>Thanks for the reply, ok so, car matter aside,</i><<

Please don't put that 'aside'. Reality check -- the Los Angeles Basin isn't some ancient, walkable European city. It is almost <u>5000 square miles</u> and the areas you want to visit are spread over more than half the region . . . so no it isn't realistic to try this by public transport or uber.

Some people certainly can manage a trip to LA w/o a car, but not visiting the places on your list. You will either have to take tours or rent a car -- OR change the wish list.

Tabernash2 Feb 24th, 2016 04:59 PM

Or take the train

redsoleslady Feb 24th, 2016 05:50 PM

Thank you all for replying and being helpful, I understand that LA is not walkable etc. But I also kinda put off by having to drive during my holiday (I know what am talking about)
I also know that public transport in LA is somewhat meh, so am asking a lot of things wanna hear about options like Uber or shuttle or tour bus (It is exactly why I kinda hold back on spending much on accommodation because I know I might spend more *either in terms of bucks or time* in transportation mode as I know I wouldn't wanna drive)

@surfergirl thanks for your helpful comments and now am like 78% sure that I shud just book by a tour company (the tour company is the one that said I will stay at Miyako Inn Downtown, near Union Station).
For Disneyland, I think I will take Super Shuttle from LAX, what do you think of this company?
For Magic Mountain, I found starline tour company that provides return shuttle to some hotels + park ticket, so I think I'll go by that.
My only concern is just how to get to Getty Villa, am now researching about bus from Santa Monica to Getty Villa.
Am flying from Indonesia by the way, I grew up in Singapore but now practically living in Jakarta and Bali (back and forth due to work).

sf7307 Feb 25th, 2016 08:23 AM

I just googled it and found that UberX from LAX to Disneyland is about $40, and from the Santa Monica Pier to Santa Clarita (where Magic Mountain is) is about $100.

Here's an Uber fare estimator:

http://uberestimate.com/costs.php

redsoleslady Feb 25th, 2016 08:49 AM

One more question guys, I think might need a prepaid SIM card for internet mobile access. Which company is the best (like the best plan/package)?

suze Feb 25th, 2016 09:21 AM

I also would encourage you to consider some kind of packaged deal.

Staying in hostels and trying to do everything you list somehow solo and without driving a car is simply not practical.

suze, born & raised in LA

redsoleslady Feb 25th, 2016 11:00 AM

@suze you mean like a package tour?

suze Feb 25th, 2016 11:04 AM

Yes, either a packaged tour or several different tours you hook together on your own to get your transportation to the things you want to see & do.

Since you have never been to Los Angeles I just think you really don't have a realistic picture of how spread out everything is, and how car-dependent the culture is there.

What you propose, as you have proposed it, is simply not practical.

redsoleslady Feb 25th, 2016 11:45 AM

@suze pls advice which part of the itinerary that you think is a killer without a car?

I might stay in Santa Monica, I wanna do:

Getty Villa (bus 534 from Santa Monica)
Universal Studio (Metro red line)
Six Flags (this one sorted out by hiring tour bus, Starline company or something)
Beverly Hills (maybe this one I just take a cab and walk around the area or maybe I'll research on buying one of those hop on hop off bus ticket)
Hollywood, Runyon Canyon and Griffith Park (either hop on hop off or via the new Expo Line from Downtown Santa Monica, I hope it's open by the time am there, change Red Line to Hollywood)

As for Disneyland, I'll take Super Shuttle from LAX directly to my hotel (either super 8 or anaheim astoria), from Disneyland to Santa Monica I think I will just try my luck with Uber.

What do you think?


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