??JFK to Hyatt Grand

Old Dec 29th, 2005, 04:25 PM
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??JFK to Hyatt Grand

After having been over much of the world we are taking our first trip to NYC

How do we get from JFK to our hotel??

Shuttle??Taxi? Do we reserve ahead of time??How much will it cost??

Thanks :-B
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Old Dec 29th, 2005, 04:40 PM
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You just go to the taxi stand at JFK and tell them you are going to the Hyatt. It's easy!
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Old Dec 29th, 2005, 04:55 PM
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From the JFK website:

"Flat Fare is $45 to the first destination (plus tolls and tip). The taximeter and receipt should relfect that this trip is a flat fare. There is no $1 peak time or 50-cent night surcharge for these trips."

You will have to add tolls and tip on that.

I often take the Super Shuttle because I think they are safer (?) but, really, the quickest and easiest way is a cab. Also, it depends how many people are in your group. The shuttle will run $15 to $19 per person (before tip), so it can add up if you are a group. Also, you have to be willing to make stops on the way in because you will not be alone on the shuttle. That may or may not annoy you. Plus, you might get stuck hanging around the airport quite awhile waiting for one to leave.

Taxi info:
http://www.panynj.gov/aviation/jfktaxiframe.html


Shuttle info:
http://www.supershuttle.com/Default.htm
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Old Dec 29th, 2005, 04:59 PM
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There ia also a bus service from JFK to Grand Central (VERY VERY close to the Hyatt) which I would consider (big buses - safer yet!! You can tell I hate NYC cabs). I used to take them all the time. They used to be called Grey Line but now they are NY Airport something or other. Again, it depends how many people will be in your group.

http://www.nyairportservice.com/
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The bus is $15, no tip required really unless you have lots of luggage or something.

Sorry for the multiple postings!!
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Old Dec 29th, 2005, 05:16 PM
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I hate the bus service, and the shuttles. Bus service is slow as swamp water and shuttles may stop at 2 or 3 places before the Hyatt.
If there are 2 or more of you you might as well go for the cab.
Cabs are not unsafe in NYC...
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Old Dec 29th, 2005, 05:52 PM
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Unless $ are a really big issue take a cab - less than $60 with $45 flat fare plus tip and toll. The shuttle can be excrutiatingly slow - and most people's time is worth more than the few $ saved on the shuttle.

(By the way taxis in NYC are perfectly safe - just stick to the official - always yellow - cabs or one of the car services you call in advance. As in any city do not take one of the "limos" the drivers of which lurk at the airport - they are always scams.)
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Old Dec 30th, 2005, 04:34 AM
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There are 2 kinds of shuttles. The kind that drop people off at their hotels which can take forever if you're not the first to be dropped OR the shuttles that make 1 stop. If you were to take a shuttle to Grand Central station, you'd be less than a block from your hotel. That's $15/person. If you can handle your luggage for a block, that's what I'd do. Otherwise a taxi is going to be $60 with toll and tip included. Neither of these options require reserving ahead.

If you want to take a car service, carmel and tel aviv are the 2 most used

carmellimo.com
telavivlimo.com

They'll be about the same price (or maybe a bit less with a coupon) than the taxi. They'll ask you to phone when you get your luggage and you'll wait b/w 5-15 mins. for the pick up.
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Old Dec 30th, 2005, 06:33 AM
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Cabs in NY are probably not "pefectly safe." Three times I have been involved in cab accidents. Once I was in one that hit another cab (a rather hard sideswipe at an excessive speed). Twice I was on a corner when a cab came up on the sidewalk (one of those times sadly involved a fatality). So, you can see why I might be a little scared. (Not enough to never take one though.)
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No motor vehicles anywhere are perfetly safe. Anyone in a car, cab, bus or pedestrian can be involved in an accident at any time. An airplane may fall on your house. This is life and has nothing to do with NYC cabs. Everyone knows this.

Your statement implied NYC cabs are not safe vs shuttle buses becauue drivers are dangerous criminals or trying to pull scams - clearly untrue.
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"No motor vehicles anywhere are perfetly safe." No, really?

What scams? Who said anything about a scam???
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Old Dec 30th, 2005, 04:06 PM
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If you will look at the other posts you wil see that other posters also understood your comment to be about the safety of cabs specificially in NYC (cheating drivers etc) rather than a general comment on the fact that any vehicle can be involved in an accident.

Just because you know what you mean to say doesn;t guarantee that it will come across that way to others.
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Old Dec 30th, 2005, 04:08 PM
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And do you - in fact- have data showing theat NYC cabs are dangerous because they have more accidents per mile driven than cabs in other cities - or buses - or private cars?
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Gee, nytrav, sorry to have gotten you so riled!
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One other possibility is Airtrain to the subway, then the subway to Grand Central.

If you don't have too much luggage and are not averse to public transportation, you can make the trip for $7 each way per person.

You can find more information at

http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/

and

http://www.panynj.gov/airtrain/

Good luck!
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Actually, it turns out that while the statistics on taxi accidents are pretty hard to interpret (partly due to variances in reporting requirements) it is clear that if you are in a crash, you are much more likely to be injured in a taxi. Of course, there is a plethora of statistics that show buses and subways to be safer than passenger automobiles.

In this study, http://www.schallerconsult.com/taxi/crash.pdf
it appears that passengers in cabs in NYC are three times more likely to be seriously hurt.

"Taxi passengers are far more likely than other vehicle occupants to sustain
relatively serious injuries when involved in a crash. In 1999, 11.5% of rear-seat
taxi passengers involved in crashes sustained injuries such as fractures,
concussions, internal injuries, bleeding, burns, contusions and abrasions. The
injury rate for taxi passengers is much higher than for rear-seat livery
passengers (3.0%) or for rear-seat passengers in other vehicles involved in
taxi/livery crashes (3.1%). In other words, looking at the various vehicles
involved in taxi/livery crashes, taxi passengers are three times more likely to be
relatively seriously injured than passengers in other vehicles."

I don't think anyone can deny that MANY people (including us native New Yorkers) do not feel particularly safe in many NYC cabs. We take them anyway because we have to get from point A to point B relatively quickly and relatively cheaply. But, there are people who refuse to take NYC cabs - and many have a bad experience or two behind them. (But that is not unique to NYC either.) So I can understand that some travelers might have a preference for non-cab transportation.
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