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It's Kaua'i not Kaui.....
I hate to be picky, but I guess misspellings have always bugged me. The spelling also affects the pronunciation of the garden island's name: It's Koh-AH-ee, not Cow-ee, or Kaw-eye.
Just a helpful hint or friendly reminder.... Mahalo, Kealii |
Aloha <font color="blue">kealii</font>,
Mahalo for the clarification, anyway you say it, pronouncing Kaua'i brings a smile to my face:-d. Seems the "3:O-eye" pronunciation may still remain nearby on Niihau, according to this article: <font color="blue">starbulletin.com/2003/11/03/news/kokualine.html ((?))</font> |
Sounds Picky to Me although you hate to be picky.
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Must be a full moon >:-)
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Reply to <font color="blue">iceeU2</font>
Nope, only a 1/4((S)) :o) |
One should break up the syllables of the Hawaiian words to get the most proper pronunciation. Hitting the proper accented syllable is also considered good form.
Kealii is correct, HOWEVER, I would point out that most of us locals don't do that. In fact when we hear someone with such perfect Hawaiian pronunciation, we know they're eith someone who takes the language very seriously, or tourists!! hehe..... In the example of this post, most of us do pronounce Kauai, COW-EYE. Accent on the EYE. Not gramatically correct yes, and I guess we're just lazy that way, but just letting the mainlanders know the "scoops" so to speak...... However you pronounce it though, it's a great island to visit. |
Now I know what all you IRS agents do at your desks after April 15th has come and gone!
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Aloha kealii, I don't think you are being picky. Thanks for the reminder!
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There's a very good Hawaiian language tutorial site, with assorted word categories:
http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/hltableofcontents.html This page on "common mispronunciations" is excellent: http://www.geocities.com/~olelo/wl-m...nciations.html Scroll down that list to see how to pronounce Kaua`i correctly. |
auntiemaria,
How do you get the accent thingy on Kaua'i to go in that direction. Is there another way to do it other than using the apostrophe? Call me a =:), but I go =-O when I see it spelled Kaui. -Bill |
Damn, last week I felt voted off the island for a simple typo of a place I have visited many times....now it's groundhog day........you are picky and should get over it since people like me who know the island well, will most likely not get over typos. I will try, but I can't make any promises. However, I do know how to say the island, if and when I fail to type it. Now is it KEE LEE or KAY LEE or KEA LI, or KEE LAH EE??? Cureous.
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Don't tell us yet...
I'm guessing kay-ah-lee-ee. |
I think peole should be respectful of the Hawaiian language -it should not be made a fun object. If there is a correct pronunciation of a word or place, we should take the time to learn it. We take the time to research restaurants and hotels, but not the People's language. Hawaii is a most wonderful, beautiful place to visit. We love and respect it.
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I know the feeling of cringing when someone mispronounces the name of a location...many years ago I worked as a 411 operator in Southern California..out of state calls came in all of time for "La Jawla", "Placenta" and many other Spanish names that the unfamiliar slaughtered. As long as I knew what the heck they meant and they were nice I didn't mind!
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The thingy that looks like an okino -`-is on your keyboard to the left of the [1] key. I worked on the directory at my kids school, and found it really fast!
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((8)) You say potato, I say patattah, you say tomato, I say creole tomata.... ((8)) b(
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Oooops, please replace b( with b-(
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OH, forget it! :-D
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Thank lcuy!
Kaua`i! Yippee! I'm so easily pleased... -Bill |
Just call it freakin Hawaii and forget about it. :S-
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An old friend of mine owned an almond ranch. I asked him the correct pronounciation of "almond".
He said "Once you buy them you can call them what you want". You can say that since you paid the money to go to Kauai you can pronounce it the way you want. YOU can say it but I wouldn't. It's a respect thing to me. At least give it a try. Like going to Europe and not even trying to speak the local language. ((H)) |
Kaui is clearly wrong, but I've always wondered about the hyphen. I just checked the "official tourism site for the county of Kauai" (kauai-hawaii.com) and they use both names (with and without hyphen) interchangeably. Ditto kauaigov.org. They use Kaua'i in most but not all text, but titles, official maps, etc are all sans-hyphen.
Were the hyphens even used back when the alphabet was first introduced to Hawaii, or is it a newer introduction to combat haole pronunciation? Maybe we should call you Keali'i? |
wemr,
Is it HA WHY EE or HA VIE EE? BTW, you're velcome. 8-} |
it is not a hyphen, it is an `okina. The `okina is a character of the Hawaiian alphabet. To be correct it is Kaua`i, with the `okina. The use of the okina can completely change the emaning of a word. `aina (with `okina) means land, while aina (no `okina) means sexual relations. The problem with resources like the websites you mentioned is that the content often comes from multiple sources, and are often created by people with less than adequate knowledge of `olelo Hawai`i. Rarely do they have editors who read for consistency, and content is often just thrown up.
And, if we really wanted to be correct, it would be Keali`i, a name that translates literally as "The Chief." |
How 'bout we just call it what ever the native people called it before us US gov types stole it as a US territory and a US state?
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And it's "coop-on" not "kyupe-on"
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Hmmm learned something new. Thanks here_today. Here's hoping that you won't correct me when I tell Kal that either pronunciation of Hawai'i (see, I learn fast) is acceptable. Different islands used to have different accents when it came to V and W sounds.
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I wouldn't worry too much about spelling..it was only about 5 years ago that the Honolulu Advertiser decided to use them. Street signs are now printed with the okina, but there are old ones up without.
The two that bug me are Kaneohe and Pali. Not can-ee-oh-ee. It is kha nay oh hay. Pah-lee, not pal-ly |
Well, if we are going to get picky. I believe it is Po'ipu and not Poipu. but it's all paradise to me!
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Will the Original Poster please step up and give us the correct pronunciation of their/his/her name PLEEEZE!!!! You started this kealii, don't quit on us now!
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ke=kay
ali`i=ah-lee-ee |
What is the correct pronunciation of New Orleans ?
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new-awlins but spoken as if it were one syllable? which makes it more like na,awlins? Or is it New?Or?leans?heehee
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Wow. I didn't expect such discussion. But that's great. Many great comments here - I especially appreciate those who recognize the issue of respect. Yes, I am Keali`i (Kay-ah-lee-ee)which means "the chief", though I do not mean to portray any superiority or leadership. I am, however, a promoter and appreciater of all things Hawaiian, or Hawai`ian. Mahala nui loa for all who likewise appreciate Hawai'i, her people, language and culture, and have the spirit of Aloha. That includes all of you fodorites, I'm sure.
Keali`i |
Psst--Keali`i: No `okina in Hawaiian. Hawaiian is not a Hawaiian word, but an English word, thus no `okina. Another common mistake made is in pluralizing Hawaiian words--there is no S in `olelo Hawai`i, so it would be two lei, three lu`au or six liliko`i. As for mongoose, anymore than one is plenty.
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