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mtolar5 May 24th, 2015 01:52 PM

Itinerary help for 3-night stay in DC?
 
Just wanted to share our agenda and ask if this looks like a reasonable itinerary? I think I'm close but may be missing some important things and/or may have some things out of order. We are a family of 5 - mom, dad, and 3 sons ages 19, 18, and 12. We will be spending 3 nights in DC next week before heading to NYC via Amtrak. Any answers to my questions, suggestions or tips would be appreciated. Thanks so much!!

Wednesday 27th
Arrive Reagan airport late morning. Buy 5 Metro tickets and put about $20 on each card?? Is this best option??
Check-in (store luggage) at hotel Cambria Suites and then grab Lunch somewhere??
Air & Space Museum
Spy Museum
Dinner somewhere??
Evening: Top of Doubletree

Thursday 28th
Breakfast somewhere?
Trolley??? What is the best way to get around to everything besides only walking??
Monuments, Capitol (not guided tour), White House (from outside), Library of Congress, National Archives, Supreme Court building
Arlington National Cemetery (Tomb of Unknown) -- if time
Somewhere in this day have Lunch and Dinner
(Really feel this day isn't organized well). Help?

Friday 29th
Museum of Natural History
Lunch ??
Newseum
If missed on Thursday, visit Arlington National Cemetery (Tomb of Unknown)
Iwo Jima (at night)
Dinner?? Where?

Saturday 30th
Union Station early so have time to eat breakfast and shop before train to NYC

I think we are going to depend on the Metro to get us everywhere. Please help me make sure we get that correct. Everywhere I've read says to not do the HOHO busses anymore due to wasted time in traffic? I hope that's the correct decision. But should we take the trolley?? Again, any advice is welcome. Thanks again!

TravelinFeet May 24th, 2015 06:34 PM

Do not miss the Holocaust Museum. They have a special section for younger folk, if your youngest is too young for the rest of it.

The metro in DC just isn't as handy as you might wish it to be. If you can get a last minute deal on a car you might consider it. Then you can drive by all those places you want to see. Otherwise I would definitely take one of those hop on hop off trolley things. The Capitol is worth a tour, or at least a good long look around. Many of the others are, well, just old buildings. Always a thrill to drive by the Whitehouse.

You can't get to Georgetown by metro but it's a great place for food the kids will enjoy. Beautiful houses. lovely small canal to walk along.

Air and Space will take a lot of time, and well worth it. Definitely do the TO FLY film, it's a classic! Ditto Natural History. This is where you find the trucks to get the 3 for $10 t shirts -- buy them 3 sizes too big as they shrink. Great take back souvenirs.

Old Town Alexandria across the river is also lovely with old streets and old houses. Very walkable once you get there.

Again, you don't say where your hotel is... or where you are from...

Going up in the Washington Monument if it has reopened is nice. Spending sunset with a picnic dinner at the Jefferson or Lincoln memorial is great, especially in the summer they might have a band playing. Definitely stop at those monuments, do not just drive by. They are wonderful! And good places to talk to your kids about what freedoms we have here and how many people died so that in fact we do have them.

Hope that helps!

TF

mtolar5 May 24th, 2015 07:35 PM

Thank you TF! Definitely helps! We are from North Louisiana and are staying at the Cambria Suites at the Convention Center. So, we should either rent a car or buy 5 tickets for the trolley....

mtolar5 May 24th, 2015 08:03 PM

I think renting a car may bring headaches for parking, right? Perhaps we should just try the trolley just for Thursday's touring?

TDudette May 25th, 2015 08:58 AM

Hi again, mtolar5. Take a look at the Circulator link also. It's very inexpensive and looks convenient. There <u>used</u> to be a hop on/off site-seeing trolley--I don't know if that is back or not. We picked it up at Union Station many years ago and it went all the way to the Cemetery. Do check at your hotel about your options. Because DC isn't as large as New York City, and school isn't out yet, I don't think the HOHO system would be too snarly.

http://www.dccirculator.com/ Look at the Georgetown/Union Station route.

If you google "899 O St NW" and look at the map, you can see a blue M at 7th and M Streets <u>NW</u> (remember there are 4 quadrants in D.C.), That station (Mt. Vernon Square/Convention Ctr.) is a straight shot to the one at Gallery Place/Chinatown (Spy Museum) and Archives (Newseum nearby). Smithsonians an OK walk if weather is nice.

Have an excellent time. Trip report, please!

obxgirl May 25th, 2015 10:02 AM

Breakfast. There is a grocery store within a block of your hotel. If your room has a fridge, I'd go that route. If you prefer a larger sit down breakfast, use the hotel's restaurant or ask at the hotel for neighborhood places.

Metro. Car. Trolley. The suggestion to rent a car for 3 days, pay to park it at the hotel as well as paying to park it anywhere and everywhere you will be going is terrible advice. Ditto the advice that the metro "just isn't as handy as you would like it to be" for the places you've listed on your itinerary.

The Mt. Vernon Sq metro station is a short walk from your hotel. If you look at a map you can plan your day so that you minimize lengthy walks or unnecessary backtracking. Purchase Smartrip Cards at the metro station at the airport. The card costs $10 -- $2 for the card and the rest in fare. Add more there if you like or add as you go when needed. And your Smartrip card will work on the Circulator Bus TDudette mentioned.

As far as the trolley goes, that's a HOHO thing right? I think the daily ticket is fairly pricey. I can't imagine you'd spend that much $ on the Metro so it's hard for me see the advantage. But for your family perhaps it is worth the price for the transportation and the commentary as well as choosing where to get on and off.

I can also see doing an evening bus tour of the monuments. Or a Segway tour. If you don't do an organized tour of the monuments, I suggest you look at a map and group and prioritize what you want to see. Early morning is a also good time to see some of the monuments. I run in the area around the Reflecting Pool and see plenty of people there in the 7-7:30 timeframe.

Wednesday. It's doable to see both the Air & Space and the Spy Museum in one day especially if one or both have started their summer extended hours. If you're going to pay $22 a person for the SM you'll want to get your money's worth. The SM is in Penn Quarter which is crawling with restaurants for lunch and dinner. Gallery Place/Chinatown metro station is one stop from your closest station, Mt. Vernon Square. L'Enfant Plaza is the third stop from Mt. Vernon Square and a short walk to the Air & Space.

Thursday. You're all over the place with probably more than you can accomplish and a fair amount of criss crossing. Prioritize your choices and group them by location. Do you have timed entry tickets for the Archives? They aren't required but you will stand in line for general entry. http://www.recreation.gov/tourDetail...d=292085&cat=1 The Archives Metro station is two stops from Mr. Vernon Sq. Same timed entry ticket advice applies to the Washington Monument or the Holocaust Museum. Both offer tickets for the day of but this time of year they are usually gone minutes after the ticket booth opens.

Friday. Doable plan if you leave the possible trip to ANC for late in the day. They have extended summer hours now. The Archives Metro stations is in-between Natural History and the Newseum and has a number of good lunch options. As well as the cafeterias & restaurants in the museums themselves.

It's going to be hot this week so pace yourselves. It's a lot of walking but there's plenty of AC at your indoor destinations. Hope you have a great trip and let the forum know how things went.

capecod73 May 25th, 2015 10:07 AM

I would dedicate a day to the Capitol side of the Mall/Monuments area - do Natural History Museum on this day combined with Air/Space and the Capitol etc. Holocaust museum is also a must do. Then on your Newseum and Arlington and other non-Mall on a different day.

One evening head to the other end of the mall and experience Lincoln Memorial, Vietnam Wall at night. It is gorgeous and inspirational. There is something very special about standing where MLK gave his I Had A Dream speech. I have been in the day as well, but the evening seems more special to me.

We have visited DC a few times with kids and always used the Metro only even though we had our car. Never had an issue with it.

Georgetown and Alexandria are nice areas, but not must see - if you have time great, but I would focus on the museums. I doubt you will have time on this trip but the Air and Space Museum near Dulles is phenomenal. DC is one of those cities you can visit repeatedly and still not see it all.

Enjoy the trip - it's a great city for kids and adults!

ElendilPickle May 25th, 2015 10:37 AM

You don't need to rent a car for this trip. Take the Metro and the Circulator as others have suggested.

We did a nighttime walking tour of the monuments with DC by Foot, which was excellent. http://www.freetoursbyfoot.com/washington-dc-tours/ It's tip-based, so you can give your guide whatever you can afford at the end of the tour.

You might also look into Capital Bikeshare; Mr. Pickle rented a bike one evening and went to a few monuments that weren't covered on the tour. https://www.capitalbikeshare.com/

Lee Ann

NewbE May 25th, 2015 12:49 PM

Sorry, but I disagree with most of TraveinFeet's advice. Listen to everyone else: don't rent a car, don't take the HOHO, and don't stand in line to go up the Washington Monument. Don't buy t-shirts that will disintegrate after two wears, lol (they're that cheap for a reason).

You don't have time to do everything, and the Holocaust Museum is not a must for everyone.

You don't have time for Old Town Alexandria or Georgetown.

And you CAN"T DRIVE BY THE WHITE HOUSE! Sorry to shout, but honestly, that hasn't been possible in years. And again, you won't be renting a car anyway, right? :-)

The Capitol IS worth a tour, but the Library of Congress, National Archives, and Supreme Court are a lot more than "just old buildings", as TravelinFeet puts it. OP, keep them on your list if time allows, and try to do the free tours at the SC and the LoC.

To save time during the days, check out the monuments at night. If I were to ax anything from your list it would be the Newseum, not because it's not good--it is--but it's a lot of reading to do it properly, and IMO unless someone is a newshound, other museums (which are free) are more exciting.

tchoiniere May 25th, 2015 01:54 PM

I will second all of NewBe's advice and agree that you need to respectfully disregard most of TF's advice in this thread and the NYC (not to walk Brooklyn Bridge, etc).

sf7307 May 25th, 2015 02:26 PM

We've been to DC many times (kids live there, and had been on occasion before). We always find something new and interesting to see and do - last trip it was the Library of Congress and the Capital BikePath (along the canal from Georgetown to Bethesda). Time before that it was the National Portrait Museum, and before that, the Newseum. We were lucky enough to get into the OEOB because our son worked there. There are endless interesting things to see and do. We never rent a car, in fact, we find it a liability within the city.

gardendiva May 25th, 2015 04:24 PM

NewbiE and obxgirl got it right. No car. You will be paying for the car to be parked. I to Dc many times in the last few years. My most useful tool is a map by Map Easy. You can get them online or at your bookstore. It has all the Metro spots, points of interest and restaurants. As mentioned not all Metro stops are as convenient as you would expect. I have found that, like the exits on the airplane, the most convenient stop may in the opposite direction of where you want to go.

Although the National Archives is just an old building, it does house the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Some of the other stuff is also interesting. However, The Library of Congress is just a pretty old building.

sf7307 May 25th, 2015 04:52 PM

A pretty old building that houses Thomas Jefferson's library, among many attributes!

NewbE May 25th, 2015 08:01 PM

<However, The Library of Congress is just a pretty old building.>
This is spoken by a person who, I guarantee, has never taken a docent-led tour there. If you take one, and they are free, you will leave with an appreciation for not only what it houses but for its architecture and decorative elements (and their meaning) as well. It was built to be what it is, after all., which is the people's library.

NewbE May 25th, 2015 08:04 PM

I would add that DC Metro stops are farther away from each other than their counterparts in other cities I've been to, and the National Mall is huge. People who set out to walk from the Capitol to the Lincoln Memorial and stop at a museum or two along the way find themselves hiking a looong way. Unfortunately, driving yourself is no solution.

gardendiva May 26th, 2015 05:24 AM

"<However, The Library of Congress is just a pretty old building.>
This is spoken by a person who, I guarantee, has never taken a docent-led tour "

You would be wrong in your thought process. The Library of Congress is beautiful inside. However, if I only had 2 1/2 days in DC, there are many more interesting things to see especially for teens. Many of the buildings in Dc have great architecture.

flygirl May 26th, 2015 06:36 AM

It's too late to do this, but, if you write your Congressperson you may be able to get a smaller tour of the Capitol - and get a tour of the White House.

andyrenee May 26th, 2015 09:43 AM

Just wanted to say that the Newseum is amazing! You should start the morning there and anticipate a full day. The things housed in that museum are beyond the imagination. I was perpetually fascinated.

Are you going to New York after this? You could always see the Museum of Natural History there and pop into the one in DC just to say you saw the Hope Diamond.

BigRuss May 27th, 2015 08:00 AM

"Drive by the White House" - where? From four blocks away glimpsing it through the intersection maybe.

DC is walkable. Easier to split the Mall in half - Capitol side one day (includes A&S museum, National Gallery, various others), Lincoln Memorial side (including the various war memorials, atrocious FDR memorial, commie-sculpture-at-its-finest MLK memorial, and south to Jefferson Memorial) another.

msrva May 27th, 2015 10:15 AM

1. No car. It's a very walkable city and the Metro will take you anywhere you don't want to walk. With a car you will pay $$$ to park and risk getting towed if you miss one of our less-than-clear signs.

2. If you get bored of monuments and museums, venture over to Nats Park for a ballgame. The Nats are home next week against Toronto and then the Cubs.

3. There's lots of great places to eat in the neighborhood near the Convention Center (it's where I work) ... some favorites are Matchbox (pizza and great tap list), Luke's Lobster (Maine lobster rolls!), and Taylor Gourmet (Philly style sandwiches).

Enjoy DC!!

kathleen May 27th, 2015 12:01 PM

We took this evening monuments trolley tour 2 years ago. Terrific tour! In the evening, when you're tired from walking from trying to see everything, it was just the right thing to do. Check the itinerary to see where all it goes, since I can't recall.

http://www.trolleytours.com/washingt...ight-tours.asp

All the buildings are better if you can visit inside. The Library of Congress (beautiful interior), the Capitol building (absolutely amazing inside), the National Archives, the Supreme Court building (if the timing is right, go inside to have a short talk by a guide in one of the actual court rooms), all were wonderful. It will help if you plan the timing of your visits, since some need tickets and the wait lines can be long.

I would get around by metro only.

TDudette May 27th, 2015 12:05 PM

Has anyone confirmed the Circulator? It has the benefit of being outside and inexpensive.

obxgirl May 27th, 2015 12:13 PM

<i>Has anyone confirmed the Circulator?</i>

Confirmed that it's running? I took it today between Dupont C. and Georgetown.

tchoiniere May 27th, 2015 12:23 PM

I believe that is referencing the Circulator around the Mall that is supposed to be starting soon.

obxgirl May 27th, 2015 12:48 PM

No, not running yet.

TravelinFeet May 28th, 2015 07:21 PM

Sorry but I always drive in DC and always find it easier. But I don't stay at hotels where I have to pay to park. Now I'm disabled, so up and down and in and out of the Metro is hard for me. So certainly feel free to ignore the car advice. But sometimes convenience is worth the money. I spent a fortune in Rome for a stupid hop on hop off bus, but I managed to see a lot more than I would have seen otherwise, had I taken public transportation. But be prepared to walk a lot. But the DC metro certainly is NOT a convenient as BART here in CA or in NYC. On a scorching day it can be a looooong walk between metro stops. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think there is a stop handy to the Lincoln Memorial.

The t shirts shrink. A lot. I said that. But I still have mine from ten years ago. Hell I still have them from Clinton's first inaugural! Especially good for kids who will grow out of them anyway. And with an election coming up there will be some funny ones. At three for around $10 they're a lot of fun.

Oh and my daughter still has the $20 sweatshirt we bought her 10 years ago in a rainstorm.

And remember I said it depends what they are looking for. The adults might adore all the old books, but the 12 year old might prefer to curl up and die. I simply hated being dragged from building to building as a kid. And I have raised a 12 year old boy who loved driving across the Brooklyn Bridge but might have killed me had I suggested walking it on a hot day(especially with their short time allotment). I'm going to NYC in August, but I know what to expect. If it's a cool spring day with time on your hands sure. But walk the BB when you only have a total of three days in NYC? Sorry guys, that's nuts.

SKIP THE HOLOCAUST MUSEUM? Ignore that person please. It's totally amazing. Even if your youngest "only" does the children's tour.

Gtown is simply a lovely place to go after everything else is closed, get a late dinner, buy an ice cream and stroll the streets. We did that with our kids from stroller age through high school -- always something to see and do. I wouldn't give up a museum for it (I admit, I didn't know about summer hours)but it's just plain nice family time.

I've actually done research in the Library of Congress. Again, the teens might rather be elsewhere. But the Capitol is important -- cuz they're Americans, and ever after, when they hear about the House and the Senate, they will see it in their minds eye. And yes you still can see the damned White House from a Car, and I agree that the monuments at night are magical. They certainly should go knock on the doors of their Congressman and Senators -- they'll be given photos and maybe even pens that say United States Senate on them!

The Neweum is kinda cool, but nowhere near the Air and Space or other Smithsonians...

Mainly, I didn't want this family arriving in DC expecting to easily get everywhere by Metro. When you can't. Period. And I didn't want them to miss the glory of taking the time to sit and take in the monuments, to read the inscriptions, and as someone else eloquently said, stand where MLK stood. Part of the glory that is DC is that it is the center of our country and a powerhouse.

Is The Palm still where the movers and shakers go for lunch? You wouldn't go there for the food, but you might go there for the ambiance. And while they don't have time, I certainly regularly drive to Great Falls for the fabulous Auberge Chez Francois, one of the very few remaining true classic French restaurants. IDK what the rules are for visiting the SpCt. If you can actually see the courtroom that would be kinda cool, but otherwise... maybe the kids are into spy things... is there an FBI tour? Anyway I didn't mean to give bad advice, just trying to avoid the letdown I have had many a time of arriving in a city thinking that I am "close" and have "easy access" only to discover that in fact things were farther than I could, or my children were willing to walk.

TF

obxgirl May 29th, 2015 07:17 AM

With all due respect, TravelinFeet, public transportation advice offered to a person with mobility issues is going to be very different than the advice offered to a person w/o them. Regardless, traipsing from metro station to metro station thinking that it is the quickest way between points isn't smart advice for anyone. A few minutes of planning with a map on a smart phone or a laptop is a good way to group sights and plot the shortest walking distance.

Per the OP's dates, his/her family is here now. The weather in DC now is warm but not brutal. Apparently they are from Louisiana so I'm guessing they are familiar with humidity.

We all have opinions about "must see's" which reflect to some degree our personal biases. The Library of Congress is on the OP's itinerary so let's assume that he/she has a reason for it being there.

Some of your advice is a bit dated and some of it is simply factually incorrect.

NewbE May 29th, 2015 07:21 AM

I agree with your post, obxgirl. The part I can't wrap my mind around is how the White House is visible from a car. You can see it, sort of, from one of the winding roads around the monuments, down by the soccer fields--as a white speck at the end of a broad lawn. On foot, that view is better, though still distant.

Anyway, it's not worth arguing about. I will agree that DC is a tough city for a person with mobility issues to deal with, as there's a lot of walking to do in general.


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