Istanbul -NYC-MA-VT-ONT-MI-IL, A Sinner and an Angel on Pilgrimage
Oct 9th, 2012, 09:14 AM
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Will second much of what's above about NYC delis. Agree with Adu that Second Avenue Deli is the best overall deli experience on food and (if one accepts the idea of a kosher deli being open on the Sabbath) the major kosher option available. Though Katz's pastrami on rye with brown mustard is the best sandwich I've ever eaten anywhere, plus Katz's does one of the best egg creams I've had in NYC. I say go to both spots.
I like Katz's pastrami "juicy" (opposite of "lean"), myself -- for my palate, it has more flavor. Mileage of course varies on this notion.
I like Katz's pastrami "juicy" (opposite of "lean"), myself -- for my palate, it has more flavor. Mileage of course varies on this notion.
Oct 9th, 2012, 11:40 AM
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Katz's pastrami is delicious and it is fun to bribe the meat slicer for an extra thick sandwich and a taste but the kugels and the kasha varnishkes at 2nd Avenue make it a complete experience. They also make wonderful french fires which I rarely order becuase I would rather eat other things icnluding the chopped liver. I will undertand the expression, "What am I chopped liver?" I love chopped liver and think sliced bread is a waste of time and bread.
OC
Anyone who stays in New Jersey dserves their fate.
OC
Anyone who stays in New Jersey dserves their fate.
Oct 9th, 2012, 12:58 PM
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somehow i lost my [very amusing] post on this thread so i will restrict my comments about your travails on your flight, OC, to saying that having myself endured an 11 hour flight from Colombo to Heathrow yesterday, my bladder and coccyx sympathise with your left leg. and we didn't have any belly dancers either.
I'm very jealous of the mini GTG and insist on a blow by blow account and photos, and NOT just of the food. Has the venue been decided?
and I'm very pleased to see your return, Adu. reports of your demise were clearly exaggerated.
I'm very jealous of the mini GTG and insist on a blow by blow account and photos, and NOT just of the food. Has the venue been decided?
and I'm very pleased to see your return, Adu. reports of your demise were clearly exaggerated.
Oct 9th, 2012, 06:06 PM
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and I'm very pleased to see your return, Adu. reports of your demise were clearly exaggerated.
Ann
I am here temporarily. I am still angry at Fodor's for their capricious and arbitrary censorship by under educated but supercilious children. But of course, I wish you nothing but the best and sunshine in your corner of the world.
I am hopeful to see OC tomorrow and then I will probably disappear again.
Ann
I am here temporarily. I am still angry at Fodor's for their capricious and arbitrary censorship by under educated but supercilious children. But of course, I wish you nothing but the best and sunshine in your corner of the world.
I am hopeful to see OC tomorrow and then I will probably disappear again.
Oct 10th, 2012, 02:01 PM
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No gossip. I can deal with the characters here, I was tired of being censored by Fodor's. Apaprently the loudest and most inscecure needed Mommy to intervene and Fodor's was too happy to oblige. It is hard to conduct a discussion or argument when segments disappear. I was even censored here, for what reason I will never know. At one time Fodor's threatened to throw me off because I used the term tea baggers. After the Tea Braggers looked up what that meant they complained. But I think there were others.
Oct 10th, 2012, 02:32 PM
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We had lunch with OC and his charming wife today at 2nd Ave Deli. He loved the perfect patrami but was not a fan of chopped liver. We shared three side dishes besides the chopped liver, potato kugel, and kasha. The noodle kugel is far superior to the potato. And for the first time, and we have been going there forever, we had dessert. The warm chocolate babka could be the best I have ever eaten.
We hope to see them again some time in the future with or without without Jewish or Turkish pastrami. (OC explained the differences in preparation.)
We hope to see them again some time in the future with or without without Jewish or Turkish pastrami. (OC explained the differences in preparation.)
Oct 10th, 2012, 06:12 PM
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Back in the room. This also became a long day. A senior bus ticket for me and an adult one for Eser took us to Port Authority on a very frequent bus No 320 right across from entrance of Hampton Inn. This was after we bought missing necessities from very near Walmart and the new AT&T card from the little AT&T shop at the Plaza across the hotel again from a Turk.
Adu and Mrs. showed us the underground of the city around 42nd and 8th and then above the ground from 42nd to 33rd, the women racing us across traffic lights and through crowds. We let them get to the 2nd Avenue Deli before us naturally.
The food ws fine although Eser ate half my pastrami sandwich while I was talking to Adu.
Adu and Mrs were excellent hosts and we had a very pleasant three hours or more with them, hardly realizing the time flying.
Decided to try the Hertz at 95th street to see if our sale priced Lincoln Town Car which we had reserved for the 11th was actually ready a day early. The Hertz office was hectic. The lady had four kids. She over-charged us only $500 for a Mercedes 350 instead of the Lincoln but then swiped $200 more from my card. Will have to go back and correct tomorrow since dinner is very close at Picnic matket & cafe. Eser says she deserves even better than the Mercedes. I believe that I deserve the companionship of the GPS which came with this car.
Finding our hotel was very simple despite Eser.
I tried to tell her that the movie theaters near the hotel would replace a Broadway show easily since we could sleep through either because of jet lag. Went to see "Looper" and she decided that a bucket of popcorn would be our dinner tonight. I am starving, sleepy and achy now, having left the movie theatre before the end of the film because the seats were not suitable for a comfortable snooze.
The Mercedes I rented costs about $280,000 to buy in Turkey because of taxes.
Adu and Mrs. showed us the underground of the city around 42nd and 8th and then above the ground from 42nd to 33rd, the women racing us across traffic lights and through crowds. We let them get to the 2nd Avenue Deli before us naturally.
The food ws fine although Eser ate half my pastrami sandwich while I was talking to Adu.
Adu and Mrs were excellent hosts and we had a very pleasant three hours or more with them, hardly realizing the time flying.
Decided to try the Hertz at 95th street to see if our sale priced Lincoln Town Car which we had reserved for the 11th was actually ready a day early. The Hertz office was hectic. The lady had four kids. She over-charged us only $500 for a Mercedes 350 instead of the Lincoln but then swiped $200 more from my card. Will have to go back and correct tomorrow since dinner is very close at Picnic matket & cafe. Eser says she deserves even better than the Mercedes. I believe that I deserve the companionship of the GPS which came with this car.
Finding our hotel was very simple despite Eser.
I tried to tell her that the movie theaters near the hotel would replace a Broadway show easily since we could sleep through either because of jet lag. Went to see "Looper" and she decided that a bucket of popcorn would be our dinner tonight. I am starving, sleepy and achy now, having left the movie theatre before the end of the film because the seats were not suitable for a comfortable snooze.
The Mercedes I rented costs about $280,000 to buy in Turkey because of taxes.
Oct 11th, 2012, 04:13 AM
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thanks for letting us in on your mini-GTG albeit vicariously. time does indeed fly with good food and company, and you all obviously had both.
Mr & Mrs OC - enjoy your rented Merc. and the rest of your trip. In respect of car costs Turkey sounds somewhat like Sri Lanka where new vehicles carry 400% tax. unless you are a politician or a doctor.
politicians were not popular with our driver.
Mr & Mrs OC - enjoy your rented Merc. and the rest of your trip. In respect of car costs Turkey sounds somewhat like Sri Lanka where new vehicles carry 400% tax. unless you are a politician or a doctor.
politicians were not popular with our driver.
Oct 11th, 2012, 05:35 AM
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Fun read, OC, and I'm glad you ended up at 2nd Ave. Deli. DH and I ended up there--huge portions, eh?
annhig, how does one pronounce 'merc'? Soft or hard 'c'? The first time I ever saw that was in a Dick Francis book and have always wondered. Thanks.
Onward, OC!
annhig, how does one pronounce 'merc'? Soft or hard 'c'? The first time I ever saw that was in a Dick Francis book and have always wondered. Thanks.
Onward, OC!
Oct 11th, 2012, 05:42 AM
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TD - here in the UK we say Merc with a hard C, but pronounce Mercedes with soft C ie Mersedes.
We also say VW using the english pronunciation, but say Folksvagen, or Volksvagen, not Volkswagen.
yep - we're all mixed up.
We also say VW using the english pronunciation, but say Folksvagen, or Volksvagen, not Volkswagen.
yep - we're all mixed up.
Oct 11th, 2012, 09:50 AM
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Was so delighted to start reading this, Other, because I KNEW we'd hear from Adu, too. Keep it up. Loving it, but do feel a bit sad that I can't be a fly on the wall whenever you guys meet for dinner. Sniff, sniff.
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