marknelis

Hi. We will be heading to honolulu on our trip in a few days. Are there any New york style bagel shops in the Waikiki area of Oahu? I know this sounds crazy, but you don't know unless you ask, right? We will be staying at the Hale Koa Hotel.

Dukey

There is a coffee stand set up in the lobby of the Hale Koa which sells bagels.

Whether or not they are "New York style" and what that actually means who knows

Melnq8

No idea if these are anywhere near your hotel, but here's a couple to get you started:

CJ's
New York Style Deli
Hilton Hawaiian Village®
2005 Kalia Road
Honolulu, Hawaii 96815
(808) 942-0027
http://www.cjshawaii.com/

Lox of Bagels
111 Sand Island Access R Unit R1
Honolulu, HI 96819
(808) 845-2855

Dukey

Forget Sand Island ()the Coast Guard base) unless you have a car.

The Hawaiian Village is right next door to the Hale Koa...just be sure to compared prices.

suze

sure enough HHV is just next-door to the Hale Koa

trippinkpj

We stayed at the Hale Koa, and remember the coffee stand with bagels though don't recall having one.

DebitNM

NY style bagels will never taste like NY bagels outside NY. It is not just how they are made [boiled before baking] but it is the use of NYC water that makes a huge difference. And NYC water is some of the finest tasting water in the country. I should know, it comes from Westchester County where I lived for ages before heading to SW.

Rather than getting replicas, try some original Hawaiian things for breakfast like Banana Macadamia Pancakes, or fried rice.
IMHO

nytraveler

It;s practically impossible to get real bagels (New York style bagels) outside of New York. What you see in supermarkets are Wonder bagles - NOT real ones. This is becaue they're not prepared properly. Real bagels are boiled before they are baked - something practically no one outside of NYC does. That's why you get bagels that are just soft and mushy - instead of chewy as they should be.

(I have friends now living in several other parts of the country - and as soon as they return head to Zabar's for real bagels and real deli.)

trippinkpj

I just saw Zabar's on Giada's weekend show. My New York friend agrees with the NYC bagel comment, and says the only place to come even slightly close to NYC bagels is House of Bagels (we have a few in San Jose, CA).

MelissaHI

Is this something you're really craving? If not, I have to agree with DebitNM.

You can get bagels almost anywhere with your breakfast in Waikiki, probably even at the Hale Koa itself.

Apparently there is a New York Deli in the Ala Moana area:
Bernard's New York Deli
(808) 594-3354
1200 Ala Moana Blvd Honolulu, HI 96814

There's also one in Kaimuki, but that will be harder for you to get to than Ala Moana.

marknelis

Thanks for the good advice. You are right I guess to get a REAL NY bagel you have to go to New York. Well at least I have a few ideas for places we can try for breakfast.

Thank you.

iamq

Have malasadas instead of bagels!

DebitNM

Yesssssssss! I second Bill's suggestion for malasada's! YUM

suze

& i keep thinking about the mac nut pancakes w/ coconut syrup!!!

Dukey

I'm not convinced..yet..that the New York style bagel (boiled before baking) has to be purchased only in New York.

There are numerous places where that style can be purchased and I would assume those are prepared using that particular method.

I cannot, unfortunately, remember whether or not the bagesl sold at the Hale Koa were marketed as "New York style" or not.

Perhaps they were "Montreal style" but I would still check that out before trooping around the island although walking next door to the HHV wouldn't be hard to do.
Regardless, enjoy your stay at the Hale Koa...it remains one of the best hotel bargains in Hawaii IMO.

suze

what Dukey says is true. There's a place right on my street here in Seattle that does the authentic boiled bagel deal, keeps kosher, all that.

trippinkpj

I loved my stay at the Hale Koa. Breakfast was great there in the dining room. We had a party of 5 where a couple of us were light eaters and the others had the buffet. A great dining bargain right there at the HK. And Biba's was great for pizza's, salads and sandwiches. There's a small snack/ lunch type place near the pool area, though I'm not sure if they had breakfast. In other words, I'd check out your food options at the HK first and then venture out from there. HHV was an easy 5 minute walk from there I think.

DebitNM

"It is not just how they are made [boiled before baking] but it is the use of NYC water that makes a huge difference."

Yes, they will be NY style but they will not taste like they do in NY. Perhaps you have to be a NYer to taste the difference?
IMHO

Postal

I agree - the Hale Koa has a great breakfast place called Koko's which overlooks the water (through the beautiful trees) and you can sit inside or on the patio.

sandi

... and even New Yorkers have their favorite bagel shop.

There was only one place that sold bagels that tasted like NY bagels... a store in Las Vegas. Why? They actually imported NY water!

May places outside of NY have learned the "boil them first" but it's the water folks, the water!