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JeffBK Nov 28th, 2015 05:37 PM

Is it Appropriate for Grandmother to Sing to Bar Mitzvah Boy?
 
Hi,

My mother offered to sing a song at our son's Bar Mitzvah - the same one she sang at mine. ("Little Boy of Mine", translated from Yiddush Oiffen Pipenstock - or something like that). My wife feels it's inappropriate. I liked the suggestion since I'd like to share with my son the same warmth and good wishes I had at my Bar Mitzvah (and I don't have the voice to do that).

Is it appropriate for a grandparent to sing at their grandchild's Bar Mitzvah, or is this something that's not cool?

Thanks....

Inakauaidavidababy Nov 28th, 2015 06:07 PM

Ask your Rabbi?

Although it sounds sweet.

sf7307 Nov 28th, 2015 06:47 PM

Why not?

IMDonehere Nov 28th, 2015 07:38 PM

I am not sure why this is here, but why not? One can only assume it is not in an Orthodox shul.

The most inappropriate thing is spending $10,000's for a child's party, so I hardly see a grandparent's affection as inappropriate.

MmePerdu Nov 28th, 2015 08:08 PM

Maybe the real question is what will cost you more, your mother's disappointment or your wife's disapproval. A very difficult choice. I feel for you.

Sassafrass Nov 29th, 2015 03:44 AM

Would your son like it?

happytrailstoyou Nov 29th, 2015 05:01 AM

Why would your wife insist that your mother cannot sing to your son? Is she trying to set up a rivalry between herself and her mother-in-law?

HTtY

IMDonehere Nov 29th, 2015 05:32 AM

I just went to a bar mitzvah and baht mitzvah of first cousins. Both their paternal grandparents died in the last few months. They would have been thrilled for their grandmother to sing. No time to be petty. It should be a celebration of joy and family, not just an ostentatious display.

Dukey1 Nov 29th, 2015 05:35 AM

What "cool" has to do with anything is beyond me.

DebitNM Nov 29th, 2015 07:39 AM

Curious - this is the poster's first post and it is not a travel related question. Not sure how one decides to ask this sort of question here.

BUT -

Unless your mother is a professional singer [and even then, I wouldn't have her sing] the short answer is no.

The long answer is no because:
#1. This is not her "little boy" he is his mom and dads' son.
#2. This is a birthday party [albeit a special one] for the son. Did Grandma sing at any of his parties before?
#3. Ask the bar mitzvah boy if HE wants her to sing. I am guessing if he is like most 13 year old boys he either couldn't care less or he would be mortified.
#4. Mom trumps Grandma.

As Dad, if you want "to share with my son the same warmth and good wishes I had at my Bar Mitzvah" make a toast in his honor and say whatever you'd like. A toast will make him seem more "man" like.

nytraveler Nov 29th, 2015 08:47 AM

I think that the best thing is to ask the boy. It's his day and it should be what he wants - he's working hard enough to get it. If he wants the song fine - if not - I can see doesn;t want to be uncomfortable in front of all his friends.

(Also I think the point about being a professional quality singer is a major one. My grandmother did sing at a couple of family weddings - but she was the lead soloist in her group's chorus - and they were good enough to sing at one of the Kennedy presidential inauguration balls.)

Sassafrass Nov 29th, 2015 08:47 AM

DebitNM, thoughtful and good answers.

DebitNM Nov 29th, 2015 08:52 AM

And don't forget -- a happy wife is a happy life :)

gail Nov 29th, 2015 09:09 AM

I agree 100% with DebitNM, especially #1

Inakauaidavidababy Nov 29th, 2015 09:11 AM

Let Bobba sing. And the idea that she needs to be a proffesional quality singer is bull. Just look at Audrey Hepburn singing Moon River - a huge controversy. The producers didn't want her to sing, but it was the most memorable part of the movie and song - an untrained voice singing from the heart and soul.

Why would Bobba singing to her grandson be less appropriate then Daddy doing a toast.. Do both. It's a life celebration of traditions. It all should be embraced.

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DebitNM Nov 29th, 2015 09:52 AM

It's Bubbie, Bubala.

gail Nov 29th, 2015 11:38 AM

To me the 2 main issues are that it is her grandson (so "boy of mine" feels inappropriate) and that the mother of the boy objects.

If both parents and the grandson endorsed having Grandma perform, the rabbi approves, then for all I care she can juggle swords. But we don't know the grandson's take on this and she is proposing to sing something that sounds a bit like she is taking over the role of the kid's mother.

Why do I have a sneaking suspicion that this is not the first time the grandmother and mother have clashed on control issues, especially about role confusion on the part of Grandma? I can just hear "your mother is always trying to... and you don't stand up to her"

IMDonehere Nov 29th, 2015 01:37 PM

My two cousins who just got bar and baht mitzvahed in the last two months would say yes. They are good kids and already understand not everyone in the family is the same.

I know I would have said yes, whether they could sing or not. It is the intention not whether they sing in key or not.

happytrailstoyou Nov 29th, 2015 03:35 PM

The grandmother doesn't need permission to sing. Overcome with love and joy, she should simply go to her beloved grandson, put her arm around him, and let her feelings pour out in song. Who would object to an expression of a grandmother's love?

On the other hand, if the grandmother just wants to turn the spotlight on herself, her daughter-in-law should put her in her place.

HTtY

JeffBK Nov 29th, 2015 04:10 PM

Thanks all. Of course we'd ask my son. The day is about him, and he has been involved in all the planning and decisions. He's a great kid and loves all his family, so I do think he'd appreciate the attention. Grandma is professional quality - has soloed in big name places before. But it is about the boy, her grandson. Unfortunately the person who speculated on past family strife is correct. My wife's parents and mine have had issues in the past. This may be more about that than anything else.


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