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bfamilyfun Jan 16th, 2020 07:42 AM

Ideas for Arizona visit at end of March
 
Looking for some insight on a location in Arizona that might be somewhat warm around March 23. We are coming from the Northeast so 60-70 degrees would be somewhat warm. At the end of this jaunt we would be flying to Denver. Previously we visited NParks in Utah and Sante Fe again ending up in Denver. We love NParks and would love to visit others but seems too early in the season.
We enjoy mountains, hiking, yet welcome a pool setting for a few days. Food/restaurants is less important.
I guess my question is if we wanted more warmth how far south would we have to go? Or which NParks in neighboring states would be doable at the end of March.
Thanks in advance for any and all ideas from such knowledgeable posters on this forum.

MmePerdu Jan 16th, 2020 08:44 AM

Within Arizona the temperatures are a matter of elevation, not "south". The Phoenix area is the warmest. Check weatherbase.com for weather information.

Patty Jan 16th, 2020 11:25 AM

Tucson has some nice hiking opportunities like Saguaro NP, Catalina State Park, Sabino Canyon and I think day time temps would meet your somewhat warm requirement. Madera Canyon to the south is within day trip distance though higher in elevation so will be colder.

tomfuller Jan 16th, 2020 01:40 PM

If you are planning to fly, fly to Phoenix or Phoenix-Mesa if you can fly Allegiant. Next month my wife and I will be taking trains from Oregon to Tucson and renting a car. We are driving back to Yuma for a gathering of geocachers. The last time I went solo to this meeting, on the second Sunday of February, it was 79* when i left Yuma. I visited the Organ Pipe Cactus NM on the way back to Tucson.
If you do go as far west as Yuma, bring your passports so that you can walk over into Los Algodones Mexico.

MmePerdu Jan 16th, 2020 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by tomfuller (Post 17047470)
. . . The last time I went solo to this meeting, on the second Sunday of February, it was 79* when i left Yuma. I visited the Organ Pipe Cactus NM on the way back to Tucson. If you do go as far west as Yuma, bring your passports so that you can walk over into Los Algodones Mexico.

I guess I should have said "of the places most people might want to go" Phoenix is the warmest. Unless there's a particular reason to go to Yuma, like for a meeting of geocachers, it wouldn't be a place I'd recommend. A friend with a daughter in Yuma often had trouble convincing herself to visit from we lived in SE AZ.

I haven't been everywhere in the state but lived there for 25 years. I also prefer the Tucson area to Phoenix but it depends entirely on your interests. The 2 areas are very different with very different sorts of possibilities. They both have mountains nearby with hiking possibilities & resorts with pools & it'll be warmer in Phoenix. What else? Are you birders? Do you enjoy a good museum? Both cities have good ones, depending on what kind you might like. Both have desert parks/outdoor museums for flora & fauna. I suggest you do some reading, online or guidebooks from your library so you have a better idea what area suits you, just too many possibilities for us to guess. Then, which are closer to parks "in neighboring states" adds a whole new level of complication. We'd love to help so guide us more with specifics.



MichelleY Jan 16th, 2020 05:22 PM

Las Vegas/ Death Valley combo might fit your requirements. If you want to stick to Arizona, I vote for Tucson.

janisj Jan 16th, 2020 05:56 PM

I really enjoyed Tuscon. I usually only visit Phoenix for sports events.

StantonHyde Jan 16th, 2020 07:02 PM

I love, love, love Tucson. The Sonora Desert Museum is amazing. You could spend a whole day there. But I would not miss the Heard Museum in Phoenix--it is truly amazing!!! You could fly in/out of Phoenix, spend a couple days there and spend more time in Tucson.

bfamilyfun Jan 17th, 2020 04:26 AM

Thanks so much for the ideas to get me started.; especially the tip describing north vs south as compared to elevation. My east coast knowledge is showing.

We do like museums but given the choice outdoor activities win out. Since we have never visited Arizona everything will be a new experience. Based on thoughts here I知 leaning towards the Tucson area. Of course, flights available with our miles do not fly to Tucson, only Phoenix.

What I meant about neighboring states was probably meant to ask which national parks would be open at the end of March. I know I can find that easily enough on the npark website.

Thanks again. I値l be back with more questions!

MichelleY Jan 17th, 2020 06:43 AM

We flew into Phoenix and rented a car. It is about a 2 hour drive and an interesting stop is the Casa Grande Adobe. Well worth a visit.

https://www.nps.gov/cagr/learn/historyculture/index.htm


tomfuller Jan 17th, 2020 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by bfamilyfun (Post 17047727)
Thanks so much for the ideas to get me started.; especially the tip describing north vs south as compared to elevation. My east coast knowledge is showing.

. Based on thoughts here I知 leaning towards the Tucson area. Of course, flights available with our miles do not fly to Tucson, only Phoenix.

What I meant about neighboring states was probably meant to ask which national parks would be open at the end of March. I know I can find that easily enough on the npark website.

Thanks again. I値l be back with more questions!

Will your miles get you to Las Vegas? You don't have to stay in Las Vegas - just head for Hoover Dam. See Hoover Dam on your way into Arizona. Maybe check out Sedona before you get to Phoenix.
Flagstaff and the Grand Canyon have lots of snow now but southern Arizona is nice now. There are many snowbirds that are living in their travel trailers for the winter in Quartzite AZ.

janisj Jan 17th, 2020 09:12 AM

If you decide on Tucson definitely fly in to Phoenix and drive down. It is an easy drive.

bfamilyfun Jan 17th, 2020 10:57 AM

Flying to Phoenix and driving to Tucson is a great idea. Thanks! I need to pay more attention to driving distances. I didn't realize how close Phoenix and Tucson were.
Still leaning toward Tucson and finding a clean hotel with free breakfast, fridge, and microwave. We have enjoyed VRBO and others but recently are put off by all of the additional fees and such. Having a washer and dryer is a plus but not a deal breaker. Any favorites?

bfamilyfun Jan 17th, 2020 11:01 AM

We only plan on a few days so the additional drive from Las Vegas may not be appealing. Yet certainly not out of the question if the timing is appropriate. We had good luck flying to Las Vegas and then on to Utah national parks. Well almost.....that was a lot of miles in the middle of no where. Would not repeat that drive in the dark.

tomfuller Jan 17th, 2020 04:21 PM

Sunset in Las Vegas in late March is about 5:45PT (6:45 Arizona time). Depending on when your flight lands and you get your rental car, you could stay at Henderson or out at Hoover Dam Lodge and see Hoover Dam in the morning. From the dam, head for Sedona and then Phoenix. Yes there a lot of miles of pretty much nothing in parts of Utah, Nevada and Arizona. Avoid driving in the dark to avoid animals in the road.

lindagj Jan 20th, 2020 03:26 PM

Check dates for Cactus League baseball in Phoenix area. Very busy hotels, restaurants, roads, etc. lots of visitors May be winding down by your visit.

HappyTrvlr Jan 24th, 2020 11:58 AM

Yes, be aware of baseball spring training. We rarely go to Phoenix from Tucson, terrible traffic.

bfamilyfun Feb 1st, 2020 08:58 AM

Again, thanks for sharing suggestions. I’m back to the planning after considering a few days in Florida before ending up in Denver. Obviously a different thread but with major airports involved we can go in any direction.
That being said, does anyone have thoughts or experience with the 2 Hyatts in Tucson?
Hyatt Place Tucson Airport
Hyatt Place Tucson - Central 1375 W. Grant Rd

Distance to PHX is within minutes of each. Any reason to choose one over the other?
We plan on mostly outdoor/activity.

Thanks for any input on these hotels or any others for that matter.

MmePerdu Feb 1st, 2020 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by bfamilyfun (Post 17056090)
That being said, does anyone have thoughts or experience with the 2 Hyatts in Tucson?
Hyatt Place Tucson Airport
Hyatt Place Tucson - Central 1375 W. Grant Rd

Distance to PHX is within minutes of each. Any reason to choose one over the other? We plan on mostly outdoor/activity.

Hyatt Place was my go to stay at the airport, to stay before flights & leave my car. In your case both have easy access to I-10 or maybe depending on if you have plans one direction or another. Grant Road location is closer to downtown & around town, airport may be easier if going to the east & southeast & back on I-10 especially at commute times but other than that I'd decide by price.

bfamilyfun Feb 5th, 2020 11:57 AM

With advice from posters our plans are firming up.

Flying into Phoenix arriving late Tuesday morning.
Rent a car and drive to Tucson.
Tucson will be our base staying at the Hyatt.
Fly out early on Sunday morning.

On our list in no special order but looking for suggestions on amount of time to spend at each. Hikes of 5 miles or so are very doable.
* Sabino Canyon

* Catalina State Park

* Saguaro National Park

*Mission San Xavier del Bac

* Mt. Lemmon

Thanks for any hints or ideas about our journey. This is our first trip to Arizona.

bfamilyfun Feb 28th, 2020 06:43 AM


Originally Posted by bfamilyfun (Post 17058793)
With advice from posters our plans are firming up.

Flying into Phoenix arriving late Tuesday morning.
Rent a car and drive to Tucson.
Tucson will be our base staying at the Hyatt.
Fly out early on Sunday morning.

On our list in no special order but looking for suggestions on amount of time to spend at each. Hikes of 5 miles or so are very doable.
* Sabino Canyon

* Catalina State Park

* Saguaro National Park

*Mission San Xavier del Bac

* Mt. Lemmon

Thanks for any hints or ideas about our journey. This is our first trip to Arizona.

Any thoughts on the above sights? Also, what might be the considerations for choosing Pima Museum vs Titan Missile?
Thanks again for suggestions.

tomfuller Feb 28th, 2020 06:56 AM

Mt. Lemmon is always cooler than downtown Tucson due to the elevation. If you are interested in history, you might want the head for Tombstone and later Bisbee to see the Queen Mine.
Southern Arizona could be warmer than you expect. Earlier this month I was in Tucson and Yuma when the temps were in the 60's up to 70.
Do you have any plans to visit Sedona or maybe the south rim of the Grand Canyon?

MmePerdu Feb 28th, 2020 08:37 AM

Regarding San Xavier del Bac, a comment I made on an another thread which might be of use if you haven't seen it already:

Not far south of Tucson, just off 19 to the west, is San Xavier del Bac Mission, one of the most beautiful buildings, in my opinion, on the planet. It's located on the Tohono O'odham reservation so is free of urban encroachment that so often ruins the setting of historic architecture. Highly recommended.

https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...exico-1676624/

janisj Feb 28th, 2020 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by MmePerdu (Post 17071025)
Regarding San Xavier del Bac, a comment I made on an another thread which might be of use if you haven't seen it already:

Not far south of Tucson, just off 19 to the west, is San Xavier del Bac Mission, one of the most beautiful buildings, in my opinion, on the planet. It's located on the Tohono O'odham reservation so is free of urban encroachment that so often ruins the setting of historic architecture. Highly recommended.

https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...exico-1676624/


True that. Years ago I took a gorgeous photo of the mission with an amazingly dramatic sky and ended up selling more than 100 framed/matted prints of it.

bfamilyfun Feb 28th, 2020 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by tomfuller (Post 17070982)
Mt. Lemmon is always cooler than downtown Tucson due to the elevation. If you are interested in history, you might want the head for Tombstone and later Bisbee to see the Queen Mine.
Southern Arizona could be warmer than you expect. Earlier this month I was in Tucson and Yuma when the temps were in the 60's up to 70.
Do you have any plans to visit Sedona or maybe the south rim of the Grand Canyon?

Our plans do not include Sedona or the Grand Canyon. Bisbee is on my research list. The temperatures I have been seeing look most favorable! Again, thanks for your ideas.

bfamilyfun Feb 28th, 2020 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by MmePerdu (Post 17071025)
Regarding San Xavier del Bac, a comment I made on an another thread which might be of use if you haven't seen it already:

Not far south of Tucson, just off 19 to the west, is San Xavier del Bac Mission, one of the most beautiful buildings, in my opinion, on the planet. It's located on the Tohono O'odham reservation so is free of urban encroachment that so often ruins the setting of historic architecture. Highly recommended.

https://www.fodors.com/community/uni...exico-1676624/

Great recommendation! Thanks!

HappyTrvlr Feb 28th, 2020 02:07 PM

Pima Air Museum would be much more interesting to visit than the Titan Missle.
As far as those two Hyatt’s, neither are in great locations. The airport is far south of things you want to see and do. The other one on Grant is west of I-10.,rather isolated from the important areas of Tucson.Try to get closer to the University or up in the Foothills.
Tusxon’s gems are Mission San Xavier del Bac where Tucson was founded by Padres Kino and Sabino Canyon upon the foothills.
it is in the 70s this afternoon but was in the 30s when I got up this morning. The desert has huge fluctuations in temperatures. Tucson has a higher elevation than Phoenix so usually cooler.
The only reason we ever go to Phoenix is to see doctors at the Mayo Clinicis there. Otherwise, we avoid it, it’s traffic and sprawl.

MmePerdu Feb 28th, 2020 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by HappyTrvlr (Post 17071193)
. . . As far as those two Hyatt痴, neither are in great locations. The airport is far south of things you want to see and do. The other one on Grant is west of I-10.,rather isolated from the important areas of Tucson.Try to get closer to the University or up in the Foothills.

I don't agree, for reasons I already mentioned. I'm assuming they know neither is a resort property & for getting around, especially for going out of town, they're both convenient. For something in town I stayed from time to time at Lodge on the Desert & once at Westward Look in the Foothills which I also liked. But it doesn't seem to me that those are what they're looking for.

MichelleY Feb 28th, 2020 06:14 PM

We thought the Titan Missile Museum was fascinating.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fod...c1686f0e6.jpeg
Missile Silo

bfamilyfun Mar 11th, 2020 04:22 AM

Again, thanks for the many replies and suggestions. As far as staying at the Hyatt we are looking for a home base. We have found their properties to be a few notches above your standard Choice Hotel types and are willing to be spend a few more dollars. The breakfasts we've enjoyed at other locations get the day started on a relatively healthy note and allow for more frivolous meals during the day. The year round, outdoor, heated pool was another plus although our expectations are low for that.
Unfortunately, we are concerned that our flights may be cancelled ending our trip or worst case leaving us stranded somewhere as our trip involves 3 legs on 2 different airlines.
Assuming that we go does anyone have any recommendations for car rentals? We would pick up in Phoenix and drop off in Tucson. I've had reasonable luck with AutoSlash where they search using your stated membership discounts. Wondering if I should just go with their findings or am I missing something.
And again, thanks for the continued and helpful responses.

tomfuller Mar 11th, 2020 06:20 AM

I ended up taking my trip solo from Oregon to Arizona (post #4). The Sunset Limited arrived on time coming from Los Angeles on Saturday 2/8. I and several other people had to wait until Enterprise picked us up from their location on Stone Avenue in Tucson. I got a good deal with them and was happy with the car. Last November, we rented from Enterprise at a local Enterprise in Mesa getting picked up at our hotel since our flight came in late in the evening. We were allowed to drop off at the Phoenix-Mesa airport with no drop fee.
Can't you fly in and out of Tucson? Yuma also has a nice airport.

bfamilyfun Mar 11th, 2020 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by tomfuller (Post 17076661)
I ended up taking my trip solo from Oregon to Arizona (post #4). The Sunset Limited arrived on time coming from Los Angeles on Saturday 2/8. I and several other people had to wait until Enterprise picked us up from their location on Stone Avenue in Tucson. I got a good deal with them and was happy with the car. Last November, we rented from Enterprise at a local Enterprise in Mesa getting picked up at our hotel since our flight came in late in the evening. We were allowed to drop off at the Phoenix-Mesa airport with no drop fee.
Can't you fly in and out of Tucson? Yuma also has a nice airport.

Airline tickets were purchased weeks ago and subject to change fees so flying into Tucson is not a likely option.
Thanks for the Enterprise tip. I値l check it out.

tomfuller Mar 11th, 2020 07:21 AM

There is a shuttle that runs from Phoenix Sky Harbor to anyplace in Tucson that runs about 6 times per day if you find that the drop fee is large. The cheapest fare is $10/person on up to about $77 plus tip. Google.


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