How's My Itinerary-Redwoods, Oregon, Washington and Vancouver?
Mar 26th, 2018, 04:15 PM
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I was hoping you could get a reservation in or near Crater Lake NP and not stay in Grants Pass at all. If you leave the north entrance of Crater Lake by about 4PM you should be able to get to Bend before 7.
Cross "The Bridge of the Gods" over the Columbia River to get to Rt. 14 for Carson.
Leaving Bend for Hood River it's US 97 north to Madras and US 26 west to Government Camp and north on Rt. 35 on the east side of Mt. Hood down to Hood River.
Cross "The Bridge of the Gods" over the Columbia River to get to Rt. 14 for Carson.
Leaving Bend for Hood River it's US 97 north to Madras and US 26 west to Government Camp and north on Rt. 35 on the east side of Mt. Hood down to Hood River.
Mar 28th, 2018, 01:20 AM
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In Oregon, Lewis & Clark is a gorgeous campus, and I've toured it. But I prefer the teaching style and academic rigor of Willamette University in Salem. On the tour, we saw the professors' offices were located off study quads and open doors were everywhere if students wanted to drop by. Their outdoors program is geared toward all levels, including beginners. Internships in state departments (not just political internships) are common for Willamette kids. They also give excellent merit aid if your student has a strong academic record. Willamette does have an international studies major.
I know less about this one, but University of Puget Sound in Tacoma is known for its international program with Asia.
Glad you are going on the Crater Lake boat ride. One of my kids' favorite things growing up was that day. Worth it to get off at Wizard Island and climb to the top.
In Oregon, Lewis & Clark is a gorgeous campus, and I've toured it. But I prefer the teaching style and academic rigor of Willamette University in Salem. On the tour, we saw the professors' offices were located off study quads and open doors were everywhere if students wanted to drop by. Their outdoors program is geared toward all levels, including beginners. Internships in state departments (not just political internships) are common for Willamette kids. They also give excellent merit aid if your student has a strong academic record. Willamette does have an international studies major.
I know less about this one, but University of Puget Sound in Tacoma is known for its international program with Asia.
Glad you are going on the Crater Lake boat ride. One of my kids' favorite things growing up was that day. Worth it to get off at Wizard Island and climb to the top.
Mar 28th, 2018, 10:26 AM
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In Oregon, Lewis & Clark is a gorgeous campus, and I've toured it. But I prefer the teaching style and academic rigor of Willamette University in Salem. On the tour, we saw the professors' offices were located off study quads and open doors were everywhere if students wanted to drop by. Their outdoors program is geared toward all levels, including beginners. Internships in state departments (not just political internships) are common for Willamette kids. They also give excellent merit aid if your student has a strong academic record. Willamette does have an international studies major.
I know less about this one, but University of Puget Sound in Tacoma is known for its international program with Asia.
Glad you are going on the Crater Lake boat ride. One of my kids' favorite things growing up was that day. Worth it to get off at Wizard Island and climb to the top.
In Oregon, Lewis & Clark is a gorgeous campus, and I've toured it. But I prefer the teaching style and academic rigor of Willamette University in Salem. On the tour, we saw the professors' offices were located off study quads and open doors were everywhere if students wanted to drop by. Their outdoors program is geared toward all levels, including beginners. Internships in state departments (not just political internships) are common for Willamette kids. They also give excellent merit aid if your student has a strong academic record. Willamette does have an international studies major.
I know less about this one, but University of Puget Sound in Tacoma is known for its international program with Asia.
Glad you are going on the Crater Lake boat ride. One of my kids' favorite things growing up was that day. Worth it to get off at Wizard Island and climb to the top.
Crater Lake boat ride is going to be dependent upon our timing. We spend a lot of time on out boat, albeit this would be a completely different experience, so if we have to miss it...we have to miss it. Gonna check the CL Lodge web everyday for openings.
Mar 28th, 2018, 10:50 AM
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(Also, FWIW overseas undergraduate tuition at my grad school alma mater, Edinburgh University in Scotland, are roughly half that of those same US small colleges. Just sayin'.)
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Mar 29th, 2018, 12:02 AM
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Hi, Odie--
It is a listed major on this list. If you follow the links you can see what courses are required for it, and even bios of the professors who teach in the major.
Academics: Majors & Programs | Willamette University
It is a listed major on this list. If you follow the links you can see what courses are required for it, and even bios of the professors who teach in the major.
Academics: Majors & Programs | Willamette University
Apr 1st, 2018, 12:26 AM
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Vancouverite jumping in - while a lot of people make the trek up to Whistler for a day of skiing, given you have just 2 days here I'd maybe look at sticking closer to the city. Consider a visit to Grouse Mountain or Lynn Canyon. Or if you guys like hiking, 'The Chief' in Squamish (a bit closer than Whistler) offers stunning views - https://www.vancouvertrails.com/trails/stawamus-chief/ It's a little under an hour's drive from the city and you can do the first peak and back in a few hours. It can get a bit crowded in the summer but it's worth it to take this in:
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We like to stay at Cedarbrook Lodge close to Sea-Tac. It doesn't look or feel like an airport hotel and they have a fairly good restaurant plus a van to the airport if you want to drop your car off early.
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Certainly none of my business, but I wonder if you might not have a look at the University of British Columbia. Their international studies options (various sub-themes) are pretty diverse, and not only is the UBC a beautiful place, the fees for overseas students compared to private colleges in the US are significantly lower. And Vancouver is about as ethnically diverse a city as you're likely to find. Just a thought.
(Also, FWIW overseas undergraduate tuition at my grad school alma mater, Edinburgh University in Scotland, are roughly half that of those same US small colleges. Just sayin'.)
(Also, FWIW overseas undergraduate tuition at my grad school alma mater, Edinburgh University in Scotland, are roughly half that of those same US small colleges. Just sayin'.)
Gardyloo, she is very interested in going abroad for all four years as well. We already looked at Trinity in Dublin, planning on looking at Prague, Amsterdam, Vienna and perhaps England/Scotland but Trinity proved to be a bit formal for her she said so would imagine that perhaps UK schools might as well. I had looked at UBC, it is a huge student population (over 50,000), I think she is thinking something smaller but have not ruled out a tour of the campus.
5alive-thank you for the link. I can't imagine how I missed that. Now to see if we can squeeze that in this trip or perhaps on a return trip if she also considers Gonzaga.
musicdiveor-thank you so much for that info. I had no idea of that area. Looks great and f it is closer than Whistler that is appealing! Museum of Anthropology also sounds very appealing since that is of interest to both of us.
topwater-thanks for the rec on the Cedarbrook Lodge. I can't get over how expensive hotels in Seattle are!
I have one last accommodation to book and then I am all set! So excited-thank you all!
Apr 3rd, 2018, 12:19 PM
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Gardyloo, she is very interested in going abroad for all four years as well. We already looked at Trinity in Dublin, planning on looking at Prague, Amsterdam, Vienna and perhaps England/Scotland but Trinity proved to be a bit formal for her she said so would imagine that perhaps UK schools might as well.
I live a mile from the University of Washington so "American college life" is something I see at (too) close range all the time. My unofficial comparison with Edinburgh is that kids are kids and universities are universities, and going to one in a big city, be it Seattle or Edinburgh, is going to deliver pretty much the same social experience. American universities tend to be campus-based, and this is much less the case with older European universities, which tend to blend into their cities in a more hodgepodge manner. While places like E.U. have student dorms (halls of residence) and all the typical accoutrements of universities everywhere, there are key differences, for example a general absence of inter-collegiate athletics, a more permissive alcohol environment, and a greater reliance on general public services rather than ones controlled by the universities themselves. (For example, in Seattle the UW has its own police force, despite being fully surrounded by the City of Seattle.) But I certainly wouldn't call E.U. "formal," quite the contrary. Which is not to say they're not academically rigorous, far from it. Why not have a look at this blog covering overseas students' experiences in Edinburgh - https://usinedinb.wordpress.com/
You might also investigate Glasgow University, which is a more campus-based (and academically excellent) school in the nicest part of Glesga, and if she'd like to see someplace smaller and more close-knit, by all means look at St. Andrews University too, but my money would be on the prospects of a love connection with the University of Durham in its namesake cathedral city in the north of England. Durham is an ancient and highly regarded small university in one of the UK's most beautiful cities. Durham is a big town rather than a small city, so there would be fewer distractions than in a bigger city, and my sense about Durham is that it's a very tight community. Here's a blurb covering overseas student life there: Being an international student studying at Durham University - Durham University Student Blogs
Sorry, don't mean to hijack your thread, but had to respond.
PS - Cedarbrook is very nice but it's kind of in the middle of nowhere. Check out the University Inn in Seattle. https://www.staypineapple.com/university-inn-seattle-wa
Apr 3rd, 2018, 12:49 PM
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I think not, having both studied and taught at a couple of Scottish universities, interviewed at several more, and visited numerous over the years. I can't speak to Trinity, only having been there once a long time ago.
I live a mile from the University of Washington so "American college life" is something I see at (too) close range all the time. My unofficial comparison with Edinburgh is that kids are kids and universities are universities, and going to one in a big city, be it Seattle or Edinburgh, is going to deliver pretty much the same social experience. American universities tend to be campus-based, and this is much less the case with older European universities, which tend to blend into their cities in a more hodgepodge manner. While places like E.U. have student dorms (halls of residence) and all the typical accoutrements of universities everywhere, there are key differences, for example a general absence of inter-collegiate athletics, a more permissive alcohol environment, and a greater reliance on general public services rather than ones controlled by the universities themselves. (For example, in Seattle the UW has its own police force, despite being fully surrounded by the City of Seattle.) But I certainly wouldn't call E.U. "formal," quite the contrary. Which is not to say they're not academically rigorous, far from it. Why not have a look at this blog covering overseas students' experiences in Edinburgh - https://usinedinb.wordpress.com/
You might also investigate Glasgow University, which is a more campus-based (and academically excellent) school in the nicest part of Glesga, and if she'd like to see someplace smaller and more close-knit, by all means look at St. Andrews University too, but my money would be on the prospects of a love connection with the University of Durham in its namesake cathedral city in the north of England. Durham is an ancient and highly regarded small university in one of the UK's most beautiful cities. Durham is a big town rather than a small city, so there would be fewer distractions than in a bigger city, and my sense about Durham is that it's a very tight community. Here's a blurb covering overseas student life there: Being an international student studying at Durham University - Durham University Student Blogs
Sorry, don't mean to hijack your thread, but had to respond.
PS - Cedarbrook is very nice but it's kind of in the middle of nowhere. Check out the University Inn in Seattle. https://www.staypineapple.com/university-inn-seattle-wa
I live a mile from the University of Washington so "American college life" is something I see at (too) close range all the time. My unofficial comparison with Edinburgh is that kids are kids and universities are universities, and going to one in a big city, be it Seattle or Edinburgh, is going to deliver pretty much the same social experience. American universities tend to be campus-based, and this is much less the case with older European universities, which tend to blend into their cities in a more hodgepodge manner. While places like E.U. have student dorms (halls of residence) and all the typical accoutrements of universities everywhere, there are key differences, for example a general absence of inter-collegiate athletics, a more permissive alcohol environment, and a greater reliance on general public services rather than ones controlled by the universities themselves. (For example, in Seattle the UW has its own police force, despite being fully surrounded by the City of Seattle.) But I certainly wouldn't call E.U. "formal," quite the contrary. Which is not to say they're not academically rigorous, far from it. Why not have a look at this blog covering overseas students' experiences in Edinburgh - https://usinedinb.wordpress.com/
You might also investigate Glasgow University, which is a more campus-based (and academically excellent) school in the nicest part of Glesga, and if she'd like to see someplace smaller and more close-knit, by all means look at St. Andrews University too, but my money would be on the prospects of a love connection with the University of Durham in its namesake cathedral city in the north of England. Durham is an ancient and highly regarded small university in one of the UK's most beautiful cities. Durham is a big town rather than a small city, so there would be fewer distractions than in a bigger city, and my sense about Durham is that it's a very tight community. Here's a blurb covering overseas student life there: Being an international student studying at Durham University - Durham University Student Blogs
Sorry, don't mean to hijack your thread, but had to respond.
PS - Cedarbrook is very nice but it's kind of in the middle of nowhere. Check out the University Inn in Seattle. https://www.staypineapple.com/university-inn-seattle-wa
Apr 3rd, 2018, 06:44 PM
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If you are thinking of an overseas university, I have to put in a word for University of East Anglia. I really liked the faculty and the ambiance of the school here. It was challenging and interesting coursework. The campus itself was built in the 1960s and is rather unattractive. But the city of Norwich is a lovely place and about an hour and 20 by train from London.
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If you are thinking of an overseas university, I have to put in a word for University of East Anglia. I really liked the faculty and the ambiance of the school here. It was challenging and interesting coursework. The campus itself was built in the 1960s and is rather unattractive. But the city of Norwich is a lovely place and about an hour and 20 by train from London.
Thank you so much everybody for all of your input. I just booked our last accommodation-now just to make sure we hit some of the highlights as far as hiking trails and sights. Doing a full day river raft now out of Grants Pass and a whale watch out of Port Angeles-the only extra activities I have planned. If there are any others we should consider, I am open to hearing about them.
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I'm late reading this wonderful thread but for future reference, I'm not sure why someoNE suggested concern about taking an American car into Canada. We took our rental from Hertz and thete wrre no isdues. We did ask before we rented and were told it was Ok.
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I am back and have had to make a few changes and trying to figure out the rest. Here is my itinerary and any input is helpful. I have booked all accommodations.
July 6- arrive Portland 8:00 PM (Air BnB)
7-Portland (Air BnB)
8-Portland (AIr BnB)
9-9:30 tour Lewis and Clark, drive to Salem, 12:30 tour Willamette, overnight Yachats (Ocean Cove Inn)
10- drive coast stopping along the way (any place in particular?), overnight Brookings (Air BnB)
11-Jedidiah and Redwoods, overnight Grants Pass (Air BnB)
12-AM half day Rogue river raft, overnight Grants Pass (Air BnB but still looking for a room at Crater Lake)
13-Crater Lake (hike?) on to Bend (depending on time maybe via Cascade Lake Scenic Byway) (Marriott)
14-Stop at Mt Hood (hike?), overnight Hood River (Air BnB)
15-Waterfalls along Columbia R. gorge (Latowell and ?), overnight Hood River (Air BnB)
16-Forest Service Road #141 to Mt Rainier (hike?), overnight Ashford (Mountain Meadows Inn)
17-Quinault rain forest (hike?), overnight Lake Quinault (L. Quinault Lodge)
18-Ruby Beach and Hoh rainforest Mosses trail hike, overnight Forks (Misty Valley Inn)
19-Neah Bay walk (possible hike on Ozette Loop), overnight Port Angeles (Air BnB)
20-Hurrican Ridge and Hill hikes, Overnight Port Angeles (Air BnB)
21-Whale Watch (9:30-2:30), overnight Port Angeles (as of now)
Here is where I need some help. We were supposed to meet up with my husband in Vancouver but his dates have shifted and is flying out of Vancouver on the 24th now. So I am thinking we won't make it there.
BUT we still would like to see some family (even for a short visit in Bellingham), and now we must visit the U of W and drive to Spokane (I know) to visit Gozaga (it has both international affairs and Arabic as majors/minors-plus a great study abroad program-all what my daughter is looking for-yikes!)
Ideally we would drop the car and fly out of Spokane now on the afternoon of the 24th BUT we are flexible and can extend it if possible HOWEVER my husband's sister and her son are flying in from France to see us and will be arriving on the 25th (she booked the dates without checking with us first-argh!)
Here is what I am thinking...help:
21-after whale watch head to Bellingham, stay the night (see family)
22-drive to Seattle, U of W tour and overnight Seattle
23-Drive to Spokane
24-AM tour Gonzaga, 3:00 PM flight home
Exhausting yes! Doable for us, absolutely! Any thoughts on this, besides the fact I am crazy?
July 6- arrive Portland 8:00 PM (Air BnB)
7-Portland (Air BnB)
8-Portland (AIr BnB)
9-9:30 tour Lewis and Clark, drive to Salem, 12:30 tour Willamette, overnight Yachats (Ocean Cove Inn)
10- drive coast stopping along the way (any place in particular?), overnight Brookings (Air BnB)
11-Jedidiah and Redwoods, overnight Grants Pass (Air BnB)
12-AM half day Rogue river raft, overnight Grants Pass (Air BnB but still looking for a room at Crater Lake)
13-Crater Lake (hike?) on to Bend (depending on time maybe via Cascade Lake Scenic Byway) (Marriott)
14-Stop at Mt Hood (hike?), overnight Hood River (Air BnB)
15-Waterfalls along Columbia R. gorge (Latowell and ?), overnight Hood River (Air BnB)
16-Forest Service Road #141 to Mt Rainier (hike?), overnight Ashford (Mountain Meadows Inn)
17-Quinault rain forest (hike?), overnight Lake Quinault (L. Quinault Lodge)
18-Ruby Beach and Hoh rainforest Mosses trail hike, overnight Forks (Misty Valley Inn)
19-Neah Bay walk (possible hike on Ozette Loop), overnight Port Angeles (Air BnB)
20-Hurrican Ridge and Hill hikes, Overnight Port Angeles (Air BnB)
21-Whale Watch (9:30-2:30), overnight Port Angeles (as of now)
Here is where I need some help. We were supposed to meet up with my husband in Vancouver but his dates have shifted and is flying out of Vancouver on the 24th now. So I am thinking we won't make it there.
BUT we still would like to see some family (even for a short visit in Bellingham), and now we must visit the U of W and drive to Spokane (I know) to visit Gozaga (it has both international affairs and Arabic as majors/minors-plus a great study abroad program-all what my daughter is looking for-yikes!)
Ideally we would drop the car and fly out of Spokane now on the afternoon of the 24th BUT we are flexible and can extend it if possible HOWEVER my husband's sister and her son are flying in from France to see us and will be arriving on the 25th (she booked the dates without checking with us first-argh!)
Here is what I am thinking...help:
21-after whale watch head to Bellingham, stay the night (see family)
22-drive to Seattle, U of W tour and overnight Seattle
23-Drive to Spokane
24-AM tour Gonzaga, 3:00 PM flight home
Exhausting yes! Doable for us, absolutely! Any thoughts on this, besides the fact I am crazy?
Jun 16th, 2018, 06:25 AM
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Well, yeah. Exhausting, but we've already said that enough. Thoughts:
I would give serious consideration to swapping the La Push beaches (esp. Rialto) for the Neah Bay day. There are plenty of walks around the beaches. Some family did the Ozette loop not long ago and reported a lot of mud; hopefully things will be drier and not buggy when you're there. In my view you should have a strong "Plan B" for all of your Olympic NP coast hikes; if things are socked in or raining horizontally (yes, even in July) it's going to be a sub-optimal experience.
On the 21st I'd definitely head to Bellingham. You'll need to book space on the ferry from Port Townsend to Whidbey Island; if the whale chasing ends at 2:30, you're probably looking at the 4:15 PM or 5:15 PM boats, which will put you into Bellingham around 7 PM or 8 PM respectively. Enough time to see the family? You need to reserve car space on this ferry - https://secureapps.wsdot.wa.gov/Ferr...e/default.aspx
Hotel prices in Seattle in cruise season are astronomical, so I would give consideration to visiting the UW, maybe have a meal in town (recommend Agua Verde on Portage Bay) then head over the I-90 bridge and stay someplace cheaper on the east side.
If you stayed in, say, Bellevue, you could get an early enough start on the 23rd that you could visit Gonzaga that afternoon and still be able to make an evening flight if you so choose. Otherwise consider shooting past Spokane and spend the night in Coeur d'Alene, a very nice little town on a spectacularly beautiful lake. It's around a half hour from central Spokane. You might also consider a quick stop at Snoqualmie Falls as you leave the Seattle area; there should still be decent flow when you're here.
I would give serious consideration to swapping the La Push beaches (esp. Rialto) for the Neah Bay day. There are plenty of walks around the beaches. Some family did the Ozette loop not long ago and reported a lot of mud; hopefully things will be drier and not buggy when you're there. In my view you should have a strong "Plan B" for all of your Olympic NP coast hikes; if things are socked in or raining horizontally (yes, even in July) it's going to be a sub-optimal experience.
On the 21st I'd definitely head to Bellingham. You'll need to book space on the ferry from Port Townsend to Whidbey Island; if the whale chasing ends at 2:30, you're probably looking at the 4:15 PM or 5:15 PM boats, which will put you into Bellingham around 7 PM or 8 PM respectively. Enough time to see the family? You need to reserve car space on this ferry - https://secureapps.wsdot.wa.gov/Ferr...e/default.aspx
Hotel prices in Seattle in cruise season are astronomical, so I would give consideration to visiting the UW, maybe have a meal in town (recommend Agua Verde on Portage Bay) then head over the I-90 bridge and stay someplace cheaper on the east side.
If you stayed in, say, Bellevue, you could get an early enough start on the 23rd that you could visit Gonzaga that afternoon and still be able to make an evening flight if you so choose. Otherwise consider shooting past Spokane and spend the night in Coeur d'Alene, a very nice little town on a spectacularly beautiful lake. It's around a half hour from central Spokane. You might also consider a quick stop at Snoqualmie Falls as you leave the Seattle area; there should still be decent flow when you're here.
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The Cape Alava/Sand Point hike at Ozette is wonderful! Be sure to allow time to look of the petroglyphs. Not sure if you are aware, but this hike HAS to be timed with the tides otherwise you can easily get swept away by the water. Here is a link to the tides for this location.
https://www.kaleberg.com/tides/alava/2018-07-tides.html
Due to the low tide being mid day, you would most likely need to do Neah Bay after this, which would not put you into PA until the evening. That isn't a bad thing, but just so you know. I really enjoy Neah Bay and it is close enough to make it work, even though it would be a long day.
At Hurricane Ridge, it is all about the views. The Hurricane Hill hike is very nice, but doesn't take much time, less than 2 hours. Lots of marmot there, so don't set your packs down and leave them unattended even for just a minute. Those critters are fast and know hikers have food.
https://www.kaleberg.com/tides/alava/2018-07-tides.html
Due to the low tide being mid day, you would most likely need to do Neah Bay after this, which would not put you into PA until the evening. That isn't a bad thing, but just so you know. I really enjoy Neah Bay and it is close enough to make it work, even though it would be a long day.
At Hurricane Ridge, it is all about the views. The Hurricane Hill hike is very nice, but doesn't take much time, less than 2 hours. Lots of marmot there, so don't set your packs down and leave them unattended even for just a minute. Those critters are fast and know hikers have food.
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So I know you are blending a vacation and a college tour, but one question I would have is--how much will you enjoy the driving in some parts of your trip.Could you forego parts of it to free up more time to see more of the areas around the campuses? It could even just be a couple of hours more per campus. But running onto the campus, taking the tour and then flying out doesn't seem like a full picture.
UW has a couple different areas of great off-campus food, shopping etc. Salem has a lot better places to eat and hang out than in decades past. I'm not saying it's Portland, but I've been a little surprised. For good or ill, I think it would be good to see a bit of Spokane.
My only micro-level question would be the 16th, I have never driven Forest Service Road 141 to Mount Rainier and I hope someone here has advised you on that route.
UW has a couple different areas of great off-campus food, shopping etc. Salem has a lot better places to eat and hang out than in decades past. I'm not saying it's Portland, but I've been a little surprised. For good or ill, I think it would be good to see a bit of Spokane.
My only micro-level question would be the 16th, I have never driven Forest Service Road 141 to Mount Rainier and I hope someone here has advised you on that route.
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Hi odie1, following your thread with interest as we are leaving Oz in 10 days to do a very similar trip - SF to Seattle over a month.
I think we will be a couple of days ahead of you in many places ��
In case you are still deciding on accommodation in Seattle, have a look at Shafer Bailie Mansion. My son lives in Seattle and we have stayed here before and will again this trip. It’s a lovely alternative to a downtown hotel but still quite central.
Have a wonderful trip and thanks for all the extra tips in this post everyone ��
I think we will be a couple of days ahead of you in many places ��
In case you are still deciding on accommodation in Seattle, have a look at Shafer Bailie Mansion. My son lives in Seattle and we have stayed here before and will again this trip. It’s a lovely alternative to a downtown hotel but still quite central.
Have a wonderful trip and thanks for all the extra tips in this post everyone ��
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5alive-I understand what you are saying re college tours. We will have spent three days in Portland, we will stay for lunch in the Salem area, UW will stay in Seattle for the rest of the day and night (will keep it near the campus), and Gonzaga will will have been in Spokane the day before and then the morning of and after. I would agree that 2-3 days in each place would be ideal but we can't do that now. What this will do is hopefully be able to scratch a few off or add a few for sure to the list and then we will have to return if necessary.
We were advised on that route to Mt Rainier.
Gardyloo-Thank you. Will look at booking car reservations for the ferry. I have an extra day in there for Gonzaga. We will spend the 23rd driving to Spokane and exploring the area and then the 24th, we will visit the campus and take a 3:30 flight back home.
