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Vette4Paris Jun 10th, 2003 12:56 PM

Sure, avoid Houston, boring town with no character and nothing worth seeing. In Dallas, see the Sixth Fllor Museum and the two modern art museums in Ft. Worth. By all means see San Antonio, TX's nicest town.

rjw_lgb_ca Jun 10th, 2003 01:04 PM

vette4Paris gives great recommendations. Houston is not a real tourist destination, and Dallas is a huge yawn (except for the Sixth Floor Museum). Ft. Worth has some of the best museums in the state, San Antonio is a trip, and oh yeah! Austin is a great town for good music and nightlife.

crazymina Jun 10th, 2003 01:05 PM

And Austin is definitely worth seeing! Didn't it just get voted #1 for the best place to be single?

JungleCat Jun 10th, 2003 01:23 PM

Debt. Lots o debt is how I financed most of my vacations and now I'm paying hard for it. But I don't regret it.

One way to travel is to call up a cousin or an old friend. At first, U usually hesitate because I feel bad to impose but in reality, they always love to have the company and love giving tours of their own town. I always wonder why I hesitated at the end, especially when they invite you back later.

Sometimes you get lucky. One of my friends who worked for a travel company got us flights from JFK to Sydney for $375 round trip! This came about, though, because I stayed in touch with him vis a vis the last paragraph.

The moral to the story: don't be afraid to use your resources.

austinite Jun 10th, 2003 01:37 PM

Wow! This is why I absolutely LOVE you fodorites...what an amazing response. Hi Trish!
Crazymina - good for you!
BayArea - great advice.
Don - What I want to do is take three to four weeks to spend in one destination. (MileKing - the reason I might have trouble taking off work). I've gotten a taste of Europe and would LOVE to go back but there are so so many places I would like to see elsewhere as well.
Here's a little about my background...I was lucky enough to spend one month in France and one month in Spain (thanks mom and dad) when I graduated from high school - almost 8 yrs ago. I was also lucky enough to win a trip to London from an Austin radio station, if you can imagine. Since then I have financed my own trips and have been to many of the major US cities and really have my sights set on international travel. By no means, do I need anything top of the line and I think I do a pretty good job of researching and preparing for my "short trips" and getting some good prices. It's just that I would like to travel all the time. I could probably set aside $1000 a year, I guess. I forget now who mentioned it, but a lot of the posts I read do seem to be from posters who stay in $200+ per night hotels.

Irishk - I have a lot to say about things to see here, maybe I can email you? I'm so glad you want to include Austin on your itinerary.


bluefan Jun 10th, 2003 02:53 PM

I'm a CPA by profession, so despite frugality and detailed planning being occupational hazards, they're sure beneficial when it comes to traveling. There's a lot of excellent advice already posted here on this thread, but I would like to offer up a crazy idea that may lead to a responsible lifetime of travel. Tough to do, but I can really see it benefiting you (someone in their 20's) in the near and far future.

Pay yourself first! Before you give your money away to creditors or frivolously spend it, pack away $300 a month in a stock mutual fund. Each year spend $1,200, which should afford you a very nice vacation for a week or more just about anywhere in the Americas. After the end of 17.5 years, considering an annual compound rate of 10% which seems reasonable post-01 bear market, your other $2,400 annual contribution would have grown to around $100,000. Pack that $100,000 away in a tax-free muni bond paying 5% or more annually, and you could have $5,000 every year (in the form of tax free interest income) for vacation purposes for the rest of your life! Then again, that may not afford you much if inflation rears its ugly head like it did in the late 70's. But at least you'd have $100,000 to chip away at for the rest of your life. This is an extreme savings example, but one that would turn your dreams into reality! Think bigger and longer savings and you could have a handsome retirement on top! Just something to consider.

bluefan Jun 10th, 2003 03:14 PM

That should read "your other $2,000 annual contributions" rather than "your other $2,400 annual contribution."

Wouldn't want an already crazy idea seem even wilder!

uuhhhh Jun 10th, 2003 03:28 PM

okay, let's do the math. $300 x 12 = $3600 - $1200 = $2000? i always heard a good cpa could add 2 and 2 and get 3, but you're amazing bluefan.

seriously, you should stick to auditing and tax preparation and leave the financial planning to someone else.

puddy Jun 10th, 2003 03:28 PM

I think someone briefly mentioned it above... sign up for efare emails from the airlines. You have Continental based in Houston and American in Dallas so there should be a lot to choose from each week. Every Tuesday they post discount fares for travel on Saturday and returning on Monday or Tuesday. Sometimes they have really great fares to good cities, including international. Of course, it's only good for last minute travel.

bluefan Jun 10th, 2003 03:41 PM

uuhhh, obviously it looks like I'm better at using a 10-key than a keyboard. One typing error after another. I'd better lay off them mai tais, which was helping me cope with the post-trip blues! ((B)) b(


rjw_lgb_ca Jun 10th, 2003 03:53 PM

Actually, bluefan referred to $2,400-- not $2,000. That would be the net of $300/month put aside in a Savings plan (i.e., $3,600) less the $1,200 vacation budget. The central tenet of bluefan's advice is good: Put aside money, and put it to work for you. That's good advice for everyone, no matter what they want to do with the cash.

My problem with bluefan's scenario is that of the tax consequences of taking $1,200 out of a stock fund. But that's another "Oprah". Also, I think 10% return on a stock mutual fund in today's low-inflation environment is very optimistic (even given the gains of this year, which I fear could be given back in a thrice). Figure on 8% pre-tax return and move on from there....

rjw_lgb_ca Jun 10th, 2003 03:55 PM

Duhhh-- I see. bluefan mistakenly corrected himself/herself. My eyes are even more tired...!!!

bluefan Jun 10th, 2003 04:10 PM

It's obvious boys and girls that I was trying to offer up a very simplified suggestion for austinite and other youngsters who list travel as a high priority, and y'all got the gist despite my mental farts. Didn't want to make it too technical...this is a travel board afterall. Good thing I work at a firm where others can catch my errors before they become public!
:B

BayArea Jun 10th, 2003 04:36 PM

One last thing I wanted to put out there was Never Underestimate the Power of a Picnic.

have picnics at home when you're tempted to have a restaurant evening out.

have picnics on the road.

The savings you will see is outstanding, and you'll probably eat better too.

travelbear Jun 10th, 2003 05:26 PM

Three words.....travelzoo-dot-com

Great Web site for you and yours and a real staple for my never ending travel appetite. They work as a huge billboard for all things cheap and last minute in travel and their Top 20 e-mail subscription will leave you wondering why everyone isn't doing this. FYI-my 20 something wife and my 20 something self are going to Prague for four nights over Thanksgiving with R/T air and hotel for a grand total of $400 a person. That's what I am talking about. If Europe isn't your thing they are all the time running cruise and Caribean deals leaving from New Orleans and Galveston, just a hop skip and jump away for you.

ALso, get onto to American Airlines site (aa.com) and subscribe to the weekly Netsaver fare. Last minute deals all over the place, with a whole truck load of stuff leaving from DFW every week, once again a drive and fly and before you know it you are traveling!

Otherwise, check out Southwest's last minute deals leaving from Austin and San Antonio. Unfortunately, I don't know that much about them, but I know they are there.

The name of your game for now though is flexibilty. Be ready to take the Friday thru Monday trip and your world will open up beyond your wildest dreams. Take it from the 20 something young professional with a whopping two weeks vacation and massive student debt. It can be done, and on the cheap at that.

Of course, this is just the tip of the iceberg for me, if your thirst still needs to be quenched I can list more cheap travel sites than you can shake a stick at! Enjoy!

Smokyboy Jun 10th, 2003 06:14 PM

Well since you asked here goes - When I was young I was mostly frivolous with my expenditures. Slowly I began to see that didn't cut it. I was missing out on things I really wanted to do. I began to see how MANAGING money/time was the way to "riches". Then I met the woman I love, had kids, and HAD to change. Today am in late 40's and we have 5 kids. We own a nice home in Atlanta's Chastain Park and have a mountain cabin/land in western NC. We go to the cabin almost every other weekend. We go on hikes, waterfalls, amusement parks, biking, rafting. In the last four years alone we have been to New York, Las Vegas, Yellowstone, San Francisco, Lake Tahoe, Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, South Carolina, Florida, and Caribbean. Next year we are going to Europe which we are already planning. We have stayed at some great hotels, Bellagio, Venetian, Mandalay Bay in Vegas, Palace in San Francisco, Doubletree in Manhattan. All this on less than 100,000 a year. How do we do it? To begin we have no car payments. We own 3 USED cars. That alone probably saves us well over 1000 a month. Yeah we have repairs but the most has been maybe 3000 in one year as compared to say over 12,000 a year in car payments? We keep 'em maintained and clean. We drive the way your supposed to drive and our car insurance is low. We get 50% off specials every few months from Enterprise car rental. We buy our clothes at places like good will and Target from the clearance racks. We buy the dress clothes we need when major department stores have one day 40-70 off. We shop at Costco alot. We dine out more than we eat at home but we use coupons, 2 for 1, and specials. All of our credit cards we have at less than 10%. We pay 30-100 % more on min due each month. All household goods at Lowes/Home Depot/Rooms To Go, with major purchases 12 month no interest. We go to yard sales, flea markets. We shop E-Bay. We plan our vacations months in advance. We use the computer for all planning/pricing. We fly coach specials. In all we are one big happy family! Again its all about MANAGING your money/time. Yeah maybe this aint everybodys cup of tea but thats how we do it!!!

methinks Jun 10th, 2003 09:17 PM

All the advice so far is wonderful and I think I'll print it out and give to my niece who is a sophomore in college.

I've only recently moved out of the young and broke stage of life. Make enough money now that I don't have to scrimp and save to do trips, I just do them. But before my good fortune, I was your typical tacky tourist and went many fun places for minimal expenditure. My advice would be do all those trips locally that you can do on a shoe string. Never underestimate the power of going with several friends and sharing digs. I once went to Mardi Gras with 9 gay men and a dog, all in one Econolodge motel room (no, the maid never had to clean-up she just left clean towels and we left the room spotless after 5 days) I think that trip cost me a grand total of $100.00. Go stay with all your college friends who have moved around the country - I was able to see lots of gorgeous countryside and smaller midwest cities. All my college friends have come to NYC and all it cost them was airfare and spending money, which to NYC can get very cheap - plus at that stage, I knew all the cheap places to eat, drink, play (actually, I still do). For Europe, travel off-season. Aer Lingus was just running a special out of NYC,Boston, etc for $99.00 each way. It was off season travel to Ireland(April and May), but Bunratty castle is Bunratty castle whether it's April or July. Hostels are a great place to stay on a budget, just make sure you make the age restrictions. Don't eat in Restaurants - the "wine/cheese/bread in a park meal" will do for almost all meals or head to college areas in major cities for cheap eats (e.g in NYC on 8th street around NYU, you can stop in at EVA's and get the best falafel of your life for less than $5.00).

Now that your career has started never underestimate the power of a business trip. When I was first starting out, I would extend all my business travel by 2-5 days. Yes, I had to pick up the extra cost of hotel (you can move to cheaper digs), but the airfare was paid for and sometimes your company may pick up some of the extra hotel costs, esp if it means staying over a saturday night - that can cut the cost of an airline ticket $500-$1000, esp when purchased semi-last minute. (I once had a business trip completely cover the cost of my extending from Chicago to LaCrosse, WI, because extending the trip over a saturday night cut approx $800 off the cost of a Thurs- Friday flight by making it a Thurs - Monday Flight - unfortunately, I never got to make the trip - Sept 2001). Most of the time these extensions are over a weekend so it does not cut into vacation time. It's also a good way for friends to travel with you. I always invite someone along on my business trips (now it is my partner, but it can be Friends or Mom). This way they get to see the sites, while I'm tied up during the day and they only have to pay for airfare.

Also, research where you are going, find out what days or nights the museums are free ( In NYC they are free all the time - they cannot force you to pay to get in, it is a "suggestion" - but one night a week each museum is free and no one will look at you sideways, because everyone is not paying) and what free things are going on in the parks, esp in summer. Like tonight, you could have sat in Central Park and listened to the Metropolitan Opera for free. Most major cities have these opportunities. And don't feel funny not paying, I went for free when I couldn't afford it and now I belong to different museums and zoos in NYC and pay some hefty and not so hefty membership fees each year to help support them. When you need you are given and when you have you give. ( what is that phrase - More if you can, less if you can't).

In my younger and poorer days, I probably did 3 "flying trips" a year and 2-3 "driving trips" a year, I also always left a job with the max payout possible for accrued sick and vacation days - I would use that $1-2K for a trip between jobs.

jbrowne Jun 11th, 2003 05:29 AM

I understand all too well what it's like to have that passion to see the world, but only be able to see it through others eyes. I married very young(huge mistake)and became a single parent some yrs after. There was never enough money for anything more than a weekend at the beach. I remarried a man who was starting his own business, anyone who has done this knows those first years are VERY lean. When things started to turn around and my oldest was nearly grown we took some wonderful trips, UNTIL.. the stork (damn bird)decided to surprise us with a midlife bundle. Now our trips are mostly to see family or family oriented places.

I dream of the day that there will be enough money & time to really travel, I hope I live long enough!

Tia Jun 11th, 2003 07:29 AM

crazymina:

Yosemite is FABULOUS!!! I was amazed. You'll LOVE IT!!!!

Tia

S_F_E Jun 11th, 2003 07:58 AM

Another consideration is: how attached are you to your career at this point? your current job? When I was young and single, after working for a couple of years, I decided (since I wanted to have a family eventually) that it made sense to leave my career for a while and do some serious traveling BK (before kids) and before I reached a point of career seniority that I would not be able to regain easily after a hiatus. A semi-entry-level job is usually easier to find than one as a CEO (not that I've ever made CEO - maybe because I take too much time off ;->).

In the age-old money vs. time trade-off, it's amazing how cheaply you can do things when you have abundant time.

I always try to keep in mind that in ANY paid job, I am basically selling my time - my most limited and precious resource - for money. So the job better be worth it - either in intrinsic meaning and satisfaction or money or SOMETHING - don't sell your life away cheaply (and I'm not talking about dollars).

I remember meeting a woman in Fiji - a nurse - who had left her job in Seattle, picked up as crew on an Australian yacht - not as an employee, but rather sharing duties and expenses the way you'd share a house, and was sailing all over the South Pacific and living a life many people dream of for an unbelievably small amount of money - less a month than some people's monthly bill for lattes at Starbucks. She wasn't smarter than you or me, and not richer - but she found a way. I've met people who left professional "careers" and worked as waiters in tony restaurants six months of the year, making enough to travel the world (on the backpack plan) the other six. If your career is not meaningful enough to be a source of major satisfaction, you might consider a job that may pay less money but leave you more time and flexibility for the things important to you ...

Let your imagination, creativity, and your own interests be your guide! (Then you can pontificate to some youngster twenty years from now just like I'm doing.)

suzanne Jun 11th, 2003 09:28 AM

My advice kind of sums up what everyone else has said:
1) Live below your means
2) Look for travel discounts
3) Use effective birth control

blh Jun 11th, 2003 11:33 AM

When we were young - with young children - like a lot of others, we took road trips close to home, stayed in state parks, went to the beach, took longer road trips to visit relatives, etc. As the children got older, we took some longer trips - (flights), usually choosing the trip that was a good buy at the time (cheap flights - from Dallas to Denver for $58 round trip each, $98 round trip from Dallas to LA). This allowed us to see new parts of the country at a bargain price. Since the kids were grown, we have taken a cruise (it was chosen because it was a great deal), three trips to Europe (all on miles and spending about $200/day for all expenses), and we are planning a trip to NYC for Christmas (purchased thru Priceline). We love to travel and hope to continue to see the world - all at a bargain price of course! We save for our trips, and I spend hours planning them - in order to do more for less! I do enjoy the planning - it's half the fun!

Syv Jun 11th, 2003 12:34 PM

I took my first trip about 5-6 years after completing university. Since graduating in 1985, I've always had two jobs. One very full-time, and one part-time (couple nights a week or weekends). The part-time job money always goes into a "trip fund". The full-time job money is my day-to-day living money.

That's how I fund my trips. My first trip was about 4-6 years after graduating: Trafalgar first class 2-week bus tour of Europe. I was hooked!

Since then, I've had one "big" trip per year (two weeks usually). One more bus tour of Great Britain, and the rest driving around North America.

laurafromtexas Jun 11th, 2003 12:49 PM

At the risk of offending Fodors, I suggest subscribing ($12 a year) to Arthur Frommer's Budget Travel magazine. Each month, they feature 40+ package trips (usually airfare, hotel, and breakfast included and sometimes tours and car rental also) to places in North America, South America, trans-Atlantic and trans-Pacific -- often for $399 to $599 for a week or more! The magazine is chock-full of helpful tips for budget travel and you'll more than make up for the cost of the subscription.

nomopromos Jun 11th, 2003 01:00 PM

I think one of the most popular threads I've seen on the Europe forum was entitled "Is everyone here immensely wealthy?"

The person asked essentially the same question that you did, and hundreds chimed in with ideas and strategies on budget, money and travel. You couldn't help but learn a few things after reading the responses!

I'll try to locate it and bring it to the top for you on the Europe forum.

austinite Jun 11th, 2003 01:07 PM

Thanks nomopromos.

Carib_Ruby Jun 11th, 2003 01:16 PM

Hi,

I know many people can't do this (myself included) but I have a friend who NEVER spends a One $ bill.

If something costs $6.00, she pays with a $10 bill (not a 5 and a 1) and when she receives 4 $1 bills in change... well that is another $4 that she won't spend, and just puts it away. It is AMAZING the money she saves every year.

I do a varation of this, probably like many people, and dont spend my change. I honestly do not miss the nickle here, quarter there, but manage to save a few hundred $ a year

Anyone else do something similar?

:)Ruby

SaraLM Jun 11th, 2003 02:16 PM

I also was very discouraged to read such fun stuff that others were doing, then I read the thread with the bios and so many are older than I (not old!) and/or retired. I felt such relief to realize that I will get there in time and am pretty well on my way.

You have gotten great tips, some I may use too. I have learned to travel with people, my Mom, brother, husband and I. I love to travel with my Mom and brother because we like the same types of things and know when to give each other space. My husband is fun because he hasn't been anywhere so everything is an adventure. Splitting the costs is great too (though Mom is picky about places to stay)!

We also rent homes or apartments so we can cook meals. If we do stay in a hotel, I try to get one with a fridge, microwave and continental breakfast. Take a backpack and lunch (lunchables are easy). So then dinner is the only thing we eat out - but we could eat in if we needed to.

Another thing is look into home exchanging. Then all you pay for is airfare and doing stuff (museums etc). I am so excited to buy a house so I can begin to look at it seriously, though there are condos and apartments listed.

From here I also thought about exploring my own backyard. For example I would give recommendations on things to see here or see questions on here about things that I hadn't even seen. So I try and do that - even been known to sleep in my canopy. I can't wait to get a trailer so we can go further and more easily. Even rented a motorhome to see some of my state up close (with Mom, brother, husband, 2 cats and a dog - doesn't get much more adventurous than that)!

spacea Jun 11th, 2003 02:46 PM

We are in a very different situation. We are retired military so use space-a when ever we can. We are retired and our mortgage is paid up. We have been taking a trip to Europe almost every year. Have done a 30 day eurrail pass and also a 60 day. Besides many driving trips. We usually pick up things for a picnic lunch. Nothing better than french bread cheese and a bottle of local wine. Even on the train we take our lunch. Never stay in large hotels. Prefer small inns and B&B's. Last year did a two week Elderhostal in Ireland followed by four weeks on the continent.
This is the way we love to travel. Staying in small towns is cheaper than big cities and so much more interesting
When Our children were small we had a trailer and made many trips with that. They saw a lot of America which they still remember.

Clifton Jun 11th, 2003 04:05 PM

There's a quote I heard once, and I wish I knew the author, but I know it isn't me.

"No one looks back on their life and wishes that they'd spent more time at work"

I think what people have said about patience and priorities are on the mark. It takes time to have and do the things you really want but isn't that always the case with worthwhile things?

But, it helps to make sure that you're on the course to end up doing the things you love. People have a tendancy to figure out how much house or car they can afford at any given time and then spend that. It makes much more sense, if you want to be able to do more than live for the next paycheck, to leave some headroom. Don't rent the apartment that just fits into your budget. Buy a house that comes way under what the bank says you qualify for. Same with cars, etc. Figure out if the career path your on will ever let you get away to use that money you've saved.

In the meantime, shop fares and rates and look for deals. Accept roughing it. Get the adventure travel in while you're young. Camp, use hostels, whatever.

My dad used to pile us up in a car and head out constantly. We drove all over the US and Canada, camping or in cheap hotels, cottages, so forth. I remember us pulling a 16' v-bottom boat behind a tiny little 70's Toyota Corolla from St. Louis all the way to Montreal. He was determined he was going to boat in the St. Lawrence Seaway. When we got there, there were signs the entire length - "No Boating". Then he pulled it all thw way back dry as it started. But we did see Niagra Falls. You just do what you got to do, and usually, but not always, it comes out ok. You won't ever regret finding a way to scrape by and do it.

indytravel Jun 11th, 2003 04:40 PM

A lot of great ideas here, but I'm not seeing many along the lines of the above mentioned used cars and Target shopping. I've found it's much easier to stretch the money I have rather than try to make more. Some may apply to you austinite, some may not.

One of the biggest and best things you can do is figure out how to live without credit card debt. Giving 20, 30, 100 dollars or more a month in interest to a credit card company can really cut into your budget.

I too drive a seven year old used car.

I don't own a cell phone, (horrors! :-) ) I figure 30 bucks a month times 12 is $360 a year towards my next vacation.

I'm careful when I eat out. You can pack your lunch and take it to work. If you save $5 a day 4 working days a week that's 1000 dollars a year.

If you smoke stop it, $3 a day times 365 days = $1095 per year.

Stop giving Starbucks 3 dollars for a cup of coffee, 200 days a year is $600. I know people who have two cups of Starbucks a day.

Get a roommate. My younger brother and I bought our home 12 years ago and paid it off two years ago. Our home is a modest 2,000 square feet. Do you really need a 4,200 square foot home in suburbia? Just imagine what no house payment at the age of 40 did to my traveling prospects. I know roommates aren't an option for many people, but when you're young and single...

Buy a case of beer, rent a movie and have friends over. A Miller 30-pack is running $12 right now. 30 cans of beer in a bar at $2.50 apiece is $75. While your at it, grill out burgers and dogs rather than ordering pizza or Applebees carry-out.

Avoid the technology trap. It's incredibly expensive to keep getting a palm pilot upgrade, the newest computer and a bigger and bigger TV. I'm sitting here typing on a 3 year old Dell Latitude laptop. It has a 56k modem and a Pentium II processor. It doesn't take much to visit a message board; it takes a lot of money to buy the latest video game and the new PC it takes to run it.

HSS - I call it Hobby Startup Syndrome. Scuba diving this year, snow skiing next year, rollerblades for 6 months after that, collecting comic books for two years, etc. Everytime you fire up a new hobby, you can expend a lot of cash. If you didn't stick with the last hobby, why do you bother to start a new one? If you want to do something like jet skiing, rent the equipment at $50 an hour for a few times. You'll throw away a ton of money spending $10,000 for a jet ski you use one summer then have to sell used.

Smokyboy Jun 11th, 2003 04:55 PM

We sort of do the same thing Carib_Ruby. My youngest son collects the spare change, keeps the quarters and cashes in the dimes,nickels at those grocery store change kiosks. Last vacation he cashed in 80 dollars for his fun money. Its amazing how many georges I collect. I put them in a plastic tucks jar and will probably cash in over 100 for our Disney trip July.

indytravel Jun 11th, 2003 05:06 PM

Smokey those kiosks take 7%! I give my change to my nieces & nephew and tell them to roll it. If they're going to take it to a change kiosk I'll roll it myself. :-)

Smokyboy Jun 11th, 2003 05:16 PM

He rolls (keeps) the quarters, only cashes in dimes & nickels at the machines.

tinatoadster Jun 11th, 2003 05:38 PM

my suggestion... be patient....Take short trips when you can. Do not risk heavy debt just for travel. There is plenty of time for that. It would not be worth it to risk bad credit and huge bills!!

My husband and I are 33 and have just really started heavily traveling.

Enjoy!!

Celine Jun 11th, 2003 05:52 PM

Great tips Indytravel, we live like this as well, although we do have a cell phone (lowest minutes however), and high speed internet (definitely worth it!!). But I agree that Starbucks coffee,etc...is a ripoff! Is it that hard to time your coffeemaker and buy Starbucks on sale at Target??!

Our 2001 car is paid, and we're saving to pay for a house, so we're on our way!

az2hot Jun 18th, 2003 12:29 PM

Austinite: I am glad I found this. I am seeking info on Austin as I would like to fly in & check it out. Am bored in AZ-I am female & single. Can you tell me about Austin?

Mote Jun 18th, 2003 11:35 PM

Austinite ! You have broken the bank with such an answer ! God thing ! I'm in mi middle 30's, and like you, I'm a fun for travelling. Tha fact is that I've always been on a budget. But no matter this, have I always make my best to travel. My suggestion is that, for first travellers ona a budget, a clean bed and a shower are the unique musts you need. First time in NY I had to sleep literally on the floor, at a room rented by a friend. No matter this, I did enjoy the city as much as a Plaza Hotel guest. Do eat cheap, which is easy in your country, and just bear in mind if this $ you're gonna spend is absolutely necesary. When travelling in the US ( gone 4 times, repeating this summer ), sleep at motel6 like motels, have enormous breafasts, and run ! Go for it ! Good idea: monthly fixed earnings for the matter, try en envelope ! Jaime. spain

Stephanie Jun 19th, 2003 04:43 AM

People will come up with money if its something they like to do. I like local travel which makes the expense for travel very low, but there are others who are willing to spend thousands to go to Europe. I am a clothes horse and love home decor so I spend my extra money on that. When there is a will there is a way.




alise Jun 19th, 2003 05:35 AM

Marry Well!! JUST Kidding!!! ;-)

However I did make a point to marry someone that was better with money than I am!

Prior to getting married I was saddled with a huge Credit Card debt. The several hundred a month I spent to pay it off for 5 yrs....would have paid for SEVERAL nice European Vacations!

IF you do have the time to give up 3-4 nights a week I do recommend waitressing. I usually got out early enough to still go out at night on the weekends and the extra $100 take home CASH in your pocket adds up. I probably had a good 250-300/week from those 15-20hrs. Minimum wage part time jobs won't do the trick especially when the tax man comes calling.

I worked a regular M-F 8-5 desk job while I did this. It was rough but if you get in good with the managers they will usually be flexible with time off. And I had a LOT of fun with my co-workers.

BEFORE you find yourself in debt or locked down to a mortgage, kids, pets etc....I agree with a poster above who said to change jobs---find a job that allows you to travel.

We just got back from Germany and met a girl on a bike tour from Australia. She was working for a tour company and got to travel, work and see lots of places PAID for!!!!! Plus her company didn't require her to babysit the customers --so she had free time to take the bike tour.

Probably doesn't pay a lot BUT --she gets to see all of Europe for most expenses paid.

AND by all means do the student/hostel thing as long as you can! We missed that age level a few years ago...but it would save us a lot of $. Plus now I am accumstomed to nicer travel. Makes it a lot harder to lower your level of comfort!

I know we will have to change our vacations once kids come along.

In the meantime--we visit my parents in Japan next August! FREE place to stay in Japan is PRICELESS!!!!!!!





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