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Gratn Aug 7th, 2005 08:22 PM

Hotel locations in NYC
 
Hi all

I am planning a trip for my wife and I - it will be our first trip to NYC and we want to do some shopping and hit all the major tourist sites. My problem is, I have no idea where we should stay. We usually stay in 5* hotels but I'm not keen on the $500+ pricetag these seem to come with in NYC. To help me narrow my search, can someone please explain what neighbourhoods I should be looking in - by Times Square? By Cnetral Park? Near 5th Avenue?

Thanks in advance.

G

wantsomesun Aug 7th, 2005 09:31 PM

Try www.hotels.com, it will be a good tool for hotel shopping. The listing will include location, amenties, rates and what the hotel is close to.

Have a great time while you are here.

ampm24 Aug 7th, 2005 09:35 PM

I recommend the W - tight rooms but good central locations - there is also the Hilton have stayed there clean centrally located in Ave. of the Americas - The Ritz Carlton down in Battery Park was offering great deal (close to vast property of Twin Towers) it does have great view of statue of liberty. I vote for the W - there is a W by Times Square in Theatre district wallking dist to 5th Ave. The 2 on the other side of 5th near maybe Lexington. All great - NYC is a walking town.

nytraveler Aug 8th, 2005 05:14 AM

Times Square is handy if you want to do a lot of theater. Otherwise it's very loud, garish and full of tacky tourist shops (going out of business electronics, t-shirts for all purposes and chain restaurants).

I would tend to do something near the southern end of Central Park if you feel like spending the money.

Or if you want to be thrifty - do the upper west side - perhaps the Lucerne (3* but quite pretty, an interesting neighborhood with great subway access, lots of good inexpensive restaurants and close to a bunch of the major museums.)

Your other option is to look for 5* on Priceline - not sure what they're offering now - but it should be below $500 - unless you're talking holioday season.

GoTravel Aug 8th, 2005 05:16 AM

Try The Michelangelo, Rhiga Royal, and The Giraffe.


iw Aug 8th, 2005 07:14 AM

I just got back last night and we stayed at the Intercontinental (Barclay) Hotel. It was on 48th st. between Park and Lexington. Great location, IMO. We could walk to Rockefeller Plaza and watch the Today Show. We could also walk to all of the $$$ shops on 5th Ave. It was a short cab ride to Broadway, where we saw Dirty Rotten Scoundrels (which was absolutely hilarious). There is a big boat tour of the island through Circle Line tours, which was neat. I highly recommend drinks/dinner at Tavern on the Green, in Central Park. This is an amazing place in the middle of a really busy and loud city. Have fun!

nytraveler Aug 8th, 2005 10:14 AM

Agree that Cenral Park is an amazing place - but Tavern on the Green is the worst of tourist traps. The food is poor/mediocre, the service worse (ranging from pretentious to incompetent) and the prices very high for what they get.

The only benefit is the view/setting and if you want to eat in Central park do the Boathouse - a much better choice.

But there are hundreds of better places to eat in NYC - either really good for similar or more $$$ - or pleasant- but still better than TOG - for way less $.

kathrynj Aug 8th, 2005 10:32 AM

I stayed at The Blakely a couple months ago and really liked the location, on 55th between 6th and 7th, convenient to theatre, Central Park, etc. The new Italian restaurant there is very good also. We had the room that was one above standard at $300 a night. I've stayed in a lot of NYC places and felt this was one I'd do again.

iw Aug 8th, 2005 10:37 AM

nytraveler...Thanks for the tip on TOG. We just had drinks there and enjoyed the view. We ate at Joe Allen's and thought it was good and reasonable.

EmilyC Aug 8th, 2005 11:36 AM

Even though Times Square is very touristy, it can be fun to stay in that area when you are visiting for the first time or even on subsequent visits. In that area, you can walk to the theaters, the Wax Museum, and many of the sights in that area that you may wish to see....I'm sure that I'll get bashed for this but when you're a tourist in New York, it's nice to be able to walk around Times Square and take it all in. We've stayed at the Marriott Marquis - very expensive and very garish but we had fun, the RIGHA Royal - nice location near Central Park but very overpriced in my opinion. For business, I generally stay at the Courtyard Times Square which I think is always a good value for the price. It's off of Broadway so it's quieter than right in Times Square and you can easily walk to the theater district.

wliwl Aug 8th, 2005 12:51 PM

I second the Blakely and would add Casablanca. Both are SMALL hotels without all that lobby hustle and bustle and annoying elevator back ups. I prefer that in NYC, but maybe some people prefer bigger places.

mclaurie Aug 8th, 2005 01:35 PM

One way to help yourself is look at a map ;) Here's a subway map which also includes typical tourist locations like Central Park, Times Square, Rockefeller Center etc. It should give you a better idea.

http://www.mta.nyc.ny.us/nyct/maps/submap.htm

As with most big cities, the tourist sights are spread around so there's something to said for many different areas. Right now Times Square seems to be the most popular area for people to stay and has a lot of hotel options, many new. The only benefit to staying there imo is if you plan to go to a lot of theater you can walk home to your hotel since it's hard to find a taxi after a show. One great hotel in that area is the Michelangelo. This area is also not bad for shopping since you can walk to Fifth Ave. and also to the Macy's area.
Another nice hotel in that area that's smaller is the Casablanca. Try to get a junior suite there as the regular rooms are reputedly small.

The best area for dept store shopping is midtown east imo. Some good hotels there are the Palace, the Drake Swissotel, Le Parker Meridien, Intercontinental Barclay and the little known Elysee.

One of the nicest hotels in the city is the Ritz Carlton Central Park that faces the park on Central Park South but isn't far from the shops on Fifth Ave.

Check travelzoo.com which often has specials within a month or two of your stay. Quikbook.com and onetravel.com are also good sites to shop. You might then see if the hotel will match the price directly.



mclaurie Aug 8th, 2005 01:37 PM

I should correct myself, Parker Meridien is actually midtown west (Fifth ave. is the line of demarcation east to west). Rhiga Royal is also midtown west.

ukpat Aug 8th, 2005 02:52 PM

Try the Lyden Gardens Hotel. It's on the Upper East Side - E. 64th between 2nd and 3rd Ave. I just stayed there for the third time. They are just finishing a major renovation. The rooms are really big and have small kitchens with dishes, microwave, etc. which are really nice to have. I always made breakfast in the room and sometimes came back to the room and made lunch if I was still in the area.

I walked to Bloomingdale's - 5 blocks - and took the subway (a station is right near Bloomingdale's)to the theatre area.

There are washing machines and dryers in the basement for guests to use, which I did several times because I like to pack really light and just do laundry.

The staff is really lovely - truly kind and helpful. There is no restaurant in the hotel but there are restaurants in the area that deliver to the hotel and the doorman will bring your food up to your room.

I don't know what the star rating of the hotel is, but I enjoyed my stay there. I had a one bedroom suite and paid $275 per night.


Gratn Aug 8th, 2005 03:45 PM

Thanks all. I will check out the suggestions (including the map!! LOL - the problem I have with maps is that they always make big cities look a lot smaller than they really are).

lynnejoel1015 Aug 12th, 2005 09:56 PM

Any opinions on E. 93rd St., btwn 5th and Madison Ave.?

Okay area?

nytraveler Aug 13th, 2005 06:10 AM

This is an upscale residential area. Handy to buses - not great for the subway. And not a huge selection of restaurants. An easy walk to a bunch of the upper Fifth Avenue museums.

Was not aware there is a hotel there.

ktny333 Aug 15th, 2005 08:33 PM

nytraveler is right...E 93rd is a residential..not much going on there. I'd stay in Times Square, close by everything.

KathrynT Aug 15th, 2005 08:51 PM

Although, sometimes it is nice to get away from the hustle and bustle if you have a bit of time to spare...

lynnejoel1015 Aug 15th, 2005 09:04 PM

yeah, we're not really typical tourists in that sense. i don't want to be right in the center of it all, i.e. Times Square, Broadway, etc. Happy to take a quick spin through those parts of town, but i don't want that to be the focal point of our trip.

we're happy to stay some place that offers a little refuge. i hope that sounds sensible

sformby Aug 15th, 2005 09:28 PM

I would highly recommend the Upper West Side. You'd get a feel for "neighborhood" New York and have easy access to the subway as well. I love the Beacon Hotel, which just completed a remodel. Big rooms and right on Broadway and 75th street, not far from a subway stop and always easy to flag a cab. Has a great venue next door (Beacon Theatre), a grocery across the street and a handly liquor store. There are restaurants in the area, or you can order in, because every room has a kitchenette.

lisettemac Aug 16th, 2005 05:03 AM

E 93rd b/t 5th and Madison is a very desirable residential neighborhood called "Carnegie Hill." It is where Woody Allen lives (lived?), along with many other celebs. There are a number of nice, quaint, neighborhood restaurants in the area and lots of the city's finest private schools are there. For restaurants, I like Bistro du Nord, Sarabeth's, Jackson Hole and Yura & Co.

The area north of 96th street becomes immediately less nice due to Mt. Sinai hospital and several housing projects, but south of 96th streets is fine.

Are you looking at the Hotel Wales? It is nice, although some of the rooms are quite small. The linens are nice, though, and it is clean and charming. My husband stayed there twice when I was delivering my daughters at nearby Mt. Sinai.

lynnejoel1015 Aug 16th, 2005 05:32 PM

thanks to the last two posters... good things to consider.

we chose the location that we did because of economy. we were able to book an apartment suite with a jacuzzi tub for only $165/night.

i hope we can find "reasonable" access to the subway from there!

djkbooks Aug 16th, 2005 06:22 PM

For me, I take out a map and highlight those places we're planning to visit (theaters, restaurants, etc.), then set about shopping for a hotel.

With theater tickets, we like to stay within walking distance of the theaters. It seems taxis are nearly impossible to find at theater time, dinner time, when it's raining, hot, etc.

NYC is easy to navigate with the numbered streets and avenues. The long blocks (along Streets) run east/west and are about three times as long as the short blocks (along Avenues) run north/south. Three long blocks or nine short blocks equal about 1/2 mile, or about ten minutes walking.

The more "recreational" activities like museums, shopping, scenery (Central Park...) are easily reached with public transportation.

We get a MetroCard (for $10, you receive $12 worth of rides, etc.) which we can both use on the subway or buses (we love the buses). If we wind up quite a ways from the hotel, or the subway/buses are awkward or require transfers, we often just grab a taxi back to the hotel. There are fabulous subway/bus maps you can download, crop, print, then fold up and carry in your pocket, at the NYC transit website (with most of the sights and attractions on them).

Our favorite place to stay is on 44th between 5th and 6th. A very quiet block. Times Square (and the theater district) is just steps (but seems a world) away with all the Fifth Ave shopping in the other direction. We love the Algonquin and the Sofitel, both in that block, but there are several other good choices as well.

cwojo99 Aug 16th, 2005 06:35 PM

Don't often spend a bunch on hotels, but have been to NYC 3 times now. Would not stay anywhere but Marriott Marquis.

In Times Square, close to many things. Well worth the splurge...

LPOWMACBACK Aug 17th, 2005 04:48 AM

We are going in at Christmas and are staying at the NY Palace. It is is in the Midtown East section, right across from St. Patrick's and steps away from Saks, etc. It is supposedly lovely and in a very convenient area. Check it out :-)

mclaurie Aug 19th, 2005 07:46 AM

Lynnejoel, there are a few people who have stayed at the b and b on 93rd & Madison. I think you might find some info if you search for staythenight.com here. Rickus is one poster who used it. He said it didn't look as good as the website but that's all I remember. It's convenient to many of the museums.

mclaurie Aug 19th, 2005 07:52 AM

Here are some other threads about it
a brief review
http://fodors.com/forums/threadselec...p;tid=34420220

Lots of info
http://fodors.com/forums/threadselec...p;tid=34474664

lynnejoel1015 Aug 21st, 2005 01:29 PM

how nice of you mclaurie!! thank you!


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