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Old May 19th, 2005, 08:03 AM
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1. Must have - Aveda bath products.
2. Extra perk - Flowers in the bathroom.
3. Please have - TRUE light lighting (why is it that hotel bathrooms have the most terrible light for applying make-up?)
4. Nice - Bath salts.
5. LOVE the robe! Soft, but not so thick it's like wearing a puffy coat!
6. Separate tub/shower.
7. Double sinks.

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Best bathroom I've been in...Ikal del Mar in Mexico.

Double sinks with nice shelf space.

Large in-bathroom closet with drawers and ample hanging space...his and hers.

Chair in bathroom - seemed silly, but when changing clothes, it was nice to have to lay clothes on.

Basket storage under sink for dirties.

Outdoor shower - Mexico afterall.

Sliding door to seperate toilet shower area from sink area. Better to have toilet only area.

Jungle view from shower and sink area.

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Old May 19th, 2005, 08:22 AM
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pepper, that Ikal bathroom sounds divine!
Best bathrobe: St. Regis LA (now gone,sadly)

All around best bathroom: Venetian. A great sit down vanity area with plenty of mirrors and good lighting.

Best sink: luxury suite at Park Hyatt LA, a wonderful modern upstanding bowl sink. Before I used it, I thought it wouldn't be practical, but it was neater (less splashing)and more user friendly than the usual "indented" sink.
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oops, one more thing:

Very best toiletries: Lady Primrose Celadon Products, St Regis. When I ran out of the samples, I bought some online.
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I liked the curved shower curtain rods at the Westin so much that I ordered one from their website complete with curtain, liner and stainless ball bearing slip rings.
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Old May 19th, 2005, 08:42 AM
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The website for the 4S BI is www.fourseasons.com/hualalai/index.html

The real name for the hotel is the Four Seasons Resort Hualalai at Historic Ka'upulehu.

There's a slide show option that may show the bathrooms.

There are rooms with outside showers, but front desk told us the other bathrooms were nicer.
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1. Large, soft, absorbant robes that will go around us real women who have curves -- just so long as each guest gets a clean one that was washed after being used by the last guest! My favorite ones so far were at the Stanford Park Hotel in Menlo Park, CA.

2. Double sinks with separate hot & cold water handles (not those slippery knobs that are hard to grip and turn when your hands are wet).

3. Separate vanity area with low table or counter large enough for makeup and such, soft vanity bench and large lighted magnifying makeup mirror. This feature was in a timeshare resort we stayed at and it was heaven to be able to sit down to put on my makeup!

4. Large, deep jacuzzi tub big enough for two -- preferably with a view if there is a good one to be had at the location. Greenwood Pier Inn on the Northern California Coast has some of their tubs that look out over the ocean.

5. Slip-resistant step(s) inside and outside the jacuzzi to help with getting in and out, as well as a good slip-resistant surface on the floor of the tub.

6. Large shower big enough for two, with dual shower heads. The shower can be part of the large jacuzzi tub or separate, so long as there is a slip-resistant surface on the floor and an attractive yet non-annoying way of keeping water from getting outside the shower (someone mentioned decent shower curtains that don't attack you while you're in the shower, and I agree!).

7. Good lighting.

8. Lots of hot water.

9. Powerful hairdryer.

10. Lots of outlets.

11. Toilet in separate room behind closed door.

12. Phone in bathroom.

13. Bidet.

14. Don't know if you have control over this, but making sure that whatever they use to clean the bathroom smells good or doesn't smell at all -- there's some vile-smelling cleaning solutions floating around some hotels!

15. Big, oversized, fluffy, absorbant, soft bath sheets. My favorite ones were at the Vintage Inn in Yountville, CA.

16. Besides the usual soap, shampoo and lotion, I also like having a shower cap. Some places we've been to (don't remember which ones though) also had some aromatherapy candles in the bathroom, which was a nice touch.
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Some of these have already been mentioned:

1) Heated floors in appropriate climates
2) Ample counter space
3) Proper lighting over mirror for makeup application
4) The curved shower rod is nice, not so much for the extra room, but to keep the skeevy curtain from blowing inward and touching me!
5) Only necessary in locations where swimming is a featured activity: retractable clothesline mounted in shower stall
6) Just a nice-to-have: one hotel we stayed at in Chicago (can't remember name) had accent lighting mounted under the counter, where the kick board is. For some reason this got hubby and me all hot and bothered
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My husband put those curved shower rods in his hotel when he did his renovation in Tampa. I agree...what a huge difference they make. Now I want to do the same in our house...the guest bath has a shower curtain and once you've had it, it's hard to go back!

frankie...I have that bowl sink in a powder room in my house. I love it! The faucets and handles come out of the wall above it. You are right...all the water is contained in the bowl, leaving counter tops shiny and dry. Someday it may make the house look so 2004ish...but for right now, it's great.
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These are all great suggestions, but I would like to second mms's "please no coffee pot in the bathroom." What a pain! Takes up space, coffee seems tainted after I get done with my million and one sprays and products in that tiny room, can't get to the coffee when someone else is in there.

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I love the vessel type sinks that sit on the counter. They are in style now, and I was thinking of making a compromise and finding a very elegant, scalloped design that looks "old world".
The hotel will look like a French Chateau, but I don't want to lose the sense that You ARE in China. I was thinking of custom bath oils or amenities that are green tea sented, and bring some zen to the classic elements...nice challenge design wise!

I'm facinated by the use of the lighted kick (toe area) under the counter as an aphrodesiac......

I'm going to have to print these all out tonight and highlight everything during The Apprentice!

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Hi Beachkomer,

What fun, I feel like I am being asked for my Christmas wish list!

Answers to your questions:

1) The first thing that popped into my mind on this question were two locations in particular. In Hawaii at the Renaissance Wailea, they had all Bath & Body works products with aloe in them which was perfect our tans, and they replaced them with new every day, it was wonderful. Also when I was at the Saint Paul Hotel in dwtn St. Paul, MN, they had all Aveda products, quite lovely. When we were at the Ritz in SF they had lovely soaps etc. but I don't recall what brand.

2) I have never had this, and it may be expensive, but wouldn't a nail clipper be nice? I have forgotten mine before and needed it. Maybe a nail clipper in a little plastic bag so it is sterile, that would be nice.

3) A hairdryer that has a higher wattage than an electric toothbrush. Nothing like a great room hairdryer, especially when traveling abroad.

4) Nice long tick towels, and soaps that aren't the itsy bitsy ones. We realize they need to keep expenses down, we don't need a huge bar, just give us one at least the size of a cell phone. I especially think men like this, I have heard my sweetie comment when it's the little bars of soap, and he is not usually very picky, but I think for men, their hands are bigger, and well, there you go.

5) I love the robe. And actually I always loved the big thick cozy ones, but when we travel to warm weather climates such as the Carib or Hawaii, I prefer the "waffle" fabric lightweight ones. My husband could care less about the robe.

I would love to hear what you decide on, please keep us posted. And thanks for letting us share!

Best wishes, T.
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Old May 19th, 2005, 10:21 AM
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Heated towel rack for the thick, plush, soft towels. full length mirror, deep tub as well as enclosed shower. Coté Bastide bath products. A clothes line
and don't forget my rubber ducky.
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Idea for bathroom bowl - When I stayed in a well-known inn in Napa, I was intrigued with the basin made of handpainted pottery. If you are going French Chateau with reminders that you are in China, how about a blue and white transferware china bowl for a basin - or hand paint/ stencil "Blue Willow" or similar motifs on a white basin? Weeping willows, etc.

Nail clippers would have to be complimentary - too much liability in reusing them among guests.

But, it did remind me of the nice little sealed bag of Q-tips and cotton balls the Ritz provides.

Perhaps the container would be a porcelain blue & white holder - or vase for fresh flowers someone mentioned earlier.

I bought a hexagonal blue and white vase with silk orchid (single bloom) at the Pier 1 outlet. Something like that would give a subliminal "China" message in the room.
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1. (ANA) Grand in Vienna--Bulgari toiletries, replaced twice a day. Other good quality toiletries that I've had in hotels include Roger & Gallet (Sofitels), and Aveda. Any premium toiletry brand will do--more importantly, make sure the staff replace them daily; don't make the containers TOO small or difficult to open (esp. with wet hands); don't forget body lotion--I hate it when a hotel doesn't include body lotion. Providing cotton balls and Q-tips is a nice plus.
2. Sewing kits are always good as long as they're not so flimsy they're useless. Have the needles pre-threaded or include a needle threader.
3. All the usuals--shampoo, soap AND shower gel (and please, no dual purpose shampoo/shower gels like some European hotels offer, conditioner as well as shampoo. One of my favorite surprises was a small can of hair spray (travel size) just right for my stay.
4. Must have as far as bathroom design: complete shower doors, not the half doors you see in Europe. Shower doors, not curtains. And please don't put the towel racks for the towels IN the shower. Why do so many hotels, even luxury hotels, do that?? You have to remove them before you take a shower or you end up with wet towels. Le Meridien Hotel in Vienna has bathrooms that look great in photos, but in real life, the showers spray water all over the place. Make sure form doesn't overwhelm function. Those long skinny stick-like shower nozzles are a pain. Stick with round, they are easier to handle. Have a power-shower function (but make sure the water has enough pressure to give you that real power shower feel, not some wimpy imitation).
5. Best robe: Dorint Hotel in Baden-Baden, Germany.
I don't mind those raised bowl sinks BUT they should be in proportion. The ones at Le Merdiien, for example, were too large, they took up most of the counter space (ample counter space is a important!!). I personally prefer the old fashioned style.
Wall mounted shaving or makeup mirrors. Really good lighting. Towel warmers.

Make sure the bathroom offers PRIVACY, both visual and aural. I do not want bathrooms with glass walls. The new Dorint luxury hotel in Munich, the Bayerhof Post looks like a disaster to me as far as the bathrooms are concerned--apparently one wall of the bathroom is clear glass. What were they thinking??
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I also like the L'Occitane products found in Four Seasons hotels, but I absolutely fell in love with the Blaise Mautin soaps on a recent stay at the Park Hyatt Vendome!

As for fixtures, I prefer a separate glassed in shower (no curtain please), deep soaking tub, and the toilet placed in another room with it's own door/partition. Good water pressure, thick towels, bathrobes, slippers, and anti-fog mirrors are a must. I also don't like those wall mounted hairdryers. A hairdryer that I can plug anywhere is preferable.

One thing that I don't think will be necessary in Guangzhou are heated floors!
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One of my fav bathrooms is the one at a Starwood hotel I stayed at in Dublin. Gorgeous marble everything. There was a large door that behind it had a huge walk in closet with tons of hangers and a pull down ironing board- you now the ones that come out of the wall. All the floors are heated to.

Also in London they always have those towel warmers, whoever suggested this it is a great idea they are addicitive.
In Kauai they have Aveda products, it was so nice. The Rosemary mint will wake up up. I have also been somewhere where they had a lavendar kit for the big soaking tub in the bathroom. It had everything you needed to relax before bed.

I also agree with the person who said a view, this is always nice.
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As far as I'm concerned most of the things mentioned above are nice extras, but not nearly so important as:

A)Lots of good water pressure.

B)Room to put my own stuff out.

C)A way to take a shower without flooding the room, or having the shower curtain waft inward and stick to me.

All those other things will mean nothing to me, unless you've met the above three criteria. Oddly enough I can't tell you the number of "luxury" hotel bathrooms where at least one if not all three of the above were missing -- but the place was filled with all those other "niceties" and I could have cared less!
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Great question! Here are mine:

1: extra towels. I almost always have to ask for an extra towel for my hair at hotels.

2. I haven't seen this yet, but the best shower experience I ever had was a jetted shower at a B&B. I have mixed feelings about this because it probably wastes water, but it is the most delightful thing ever! At my B&B, the normal shower head had different controls from the 2 heads on each side, so I was able to turn off the main head when I wasn't rinsing my hair. The nozzles could be directed in differnet directions. It seemed so luxurious and I really felt clean afterwards!
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Ditto what Patrick said, especially on the water pressure and temperature control with ease of closure so that shower spray is not "everywhere" but where you want it to be.

Having a clean bathroom is more important to me than having a luxury bathroom. I have seen "luxury" with mold within the shower sliders.

Best bathroom I have experienced is Westin Cuples Station St. Louis. Black and gold- bigger than a complete hotel room in NYC (mine anyway) and with separate tub/ shower/ sinks and drawers, surfaces, and sliding panels for appliances (good ones). Good mirrors and a window that is cut out of the marbled walls looking into the bedroom. Separate makeup/sink area with flat surfaces and mirrors outside and separate as well.

Biggest and only peeve I think I have- mostly B&B's and some hotels have reburnished areas without allowing for any hair dryer use by any mirror. You sometimes have to dry blind.

All the high end soaps, robes etc. are just not important to me at all.

I do appreciate a good 2 cup coffee pot with the makings right there and NOT in the bathroom area.
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