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charnees Feb 27th, 2012 06:59 PM

Hiking to the lava flow is not an easy walk -- and can be dangerous
 
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl..._lava_flow.DTL

Be prepared if you want to go. And be fit, too!

Tomsd Feb 27th, 2012 07:44 PM

And some dummies want to get so close they can feel the intense heat - and who knows what other mishaps might ensue if the local authorities didn't try to keep people at a safe distance? People have stepped on lava rock they think is solid and have fell into a hole getting burned, etc.

I would rather take a helicopter and see it from overhead. :)

wbpiii Feb 28th, 2012 06:45 AM

It all depends on where the flow is and how it is flowing. In 2005 the flow was in the park, with thick viscosity. We walked to within a foot of the lava. The lava was budding about 6 inches every two minutes. Oh and a ranger was there watching all the time. The ranger even sent us (and only us) over a small ridge to a large lava flow that was not moving but radiated sufficient heat to catch wood on fire. It was so very primal. It was one incredible experience.

Again, it all depends on the location and lava. I will add one proviso, if the authorities say do NOT get close as they advise today, I would not violate their orders.

Bill

Placename Feb 28th, 2012 09:53 AM

I really really hate the SF Gate Hawaii articles. They are written by tourism promoter and are rarely timely. Hard to understand why they are posted when they are.

The access to the lava is so variable that one should not use just a single article, probably written three years ago, for reference.

Currently, there is no lava flow that has any land access. Any activity is only visible by flights/helicopter.

It is crucial to check the conditions to see what is actually going on:

http://volcanoes.usgs.gov/hvo/activi...aueastatus.php

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...ii_Hawaii.html

nytraveler Feb 28th, 2012 09:54 AM

Gee - lava m ight be dangerous? Who would have thought it?

volcanogirl Feb 28th, 2012 11:54 AM

We did it a few years ago and thought it was amazing.

wbpiii Feb 28th, 2012 12:07 PM

Well some people seem impervious to the stuff. I was hiking to Chain of Craters Road from Apua Point. I was about three miles from the road on the trail crossing an old flow probably the 1971 or 1972 flow. In the middle of this path was a boot sole print memorialized in the harden lava. You could clearly see the boot label and one could almost read it. It was weird.

Bill

Tomsd Feb 28th, 2012 12:19 PM

wbp: Glad you are mindful of the dangers and appreciate your hiking reviews. :)

emalloy Feb 28th, 2012 12:29 PM

The month before we were there several years ago,ELEVEN ACRES of the hardened lava that people had walked on fell into the ocean. Fortunately, no one was on it at the time it fell.

kikkoman Feb 28th, 2012 03:16 PM

the rangers work very hard to keep lava viewing as accessible as possible in a continuing change of lava events. There advice should never be ignored.

wbpiii Feb 28th, 2012 05:07 PM

Tomsd, contrary to what some people may think, backpackers and wilderness hikers are not thrill seekers. Rather, we are very confident of our abilities to coexist with the wilderness. Coexistence can only occur when one knows his/her limitations and has a working knowledge of the wilderness area he/she plans to visit.

Tomsd Feb 28th, 2012 05:17 PM

wbp: Just guessing - but you be in the minority of those tourists dumb enough to want to run out and get up close and personal with a lava flow. Hey - I grew up camping (before it was called backpacking and wildneress hiking - and there were always some tenderfoots getting lost in the forests. :)

charnees Feb 29th, 2012 11:37 AM

First of all, the article was not written three years ago. I would think if the writer is promoting Hawaii tourism he/she would not even bring the subject up.

Second, it's good to remind the newer crop of Hawaii visitors about being careful around the lava flows. That's why I posted it here. YOU may be an old expert but this board is full of posts from people who have never been there before.

Third, even if the lava is not molten, the fact is that hiking on it is rough, the lava can be as sharp as coral, and there is no sun, and it is hot (the weather). Hiking out without proper equipment like hats and water and good shoes can be hazardous. You can get overheated very quickly there. I have seen people in flip-flops out there, and if they should fall they will get nasty scrapes and cuts.

wbpiii Feb 29th, 2012 06:21 PM

Gosh, I didn't know I was old.

Samsaf Mar 1st, 2012 09:24 AM

Some of the best advice we got when walking over the lava (maybe 1/2 mile or so; not a long hike) was to wear gloves (the heavy, working kind). That way, if we had to reach out, our hands would be protected.

When we went, the lava was still flowing into the ocean, and we walked out onto the lava about an hour before sunset. After dark, we could see clearly where the lava was flowing into the ocean. We then walked back (using flashlights). This was one of the coolest experiences I've ever had. :)

sunbum1944 Mar 1st, 2012 09:34 AM

Samsaf- I also walked out on the lava many years ago and thought it was a very cool experience, saw the lava flowing into the ocean also. In retrospect, I guess it was not the smartest thing to do but there were no rangers or signs telling us not to do it and we were young so off we went. We did not go at night though. Good idea to wear gloves- and also suggest think soled shoes- there were a couple of spots where we could feel the warmth through our shoes.


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